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Title: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on March 08, 2011, 09:10:29 AM
Casting tour will start sometime early May. They are already taking in online applications. Also this year there's a new form on the site, that allows you to inform of a friend you think would be suitable for the show. The season will be produced by Endemol Finland Inc.

Also a swap with Norway would be a possibility. The season starts about the same time. And there are a couple of questions on the application form, that would suggest a swap. But then again, there's also a question that would suggest a Secret Story type of edition. Or maybe they're just standard questions. One is about how long was the applicant's longest trip alone, and the next one is about why and to where the trip was. And one of the questions is how many secrets the applicant has, what are they and does anyone else know about them.

http://www.bigbrother.fi

Kim Sainio, the head director of seasons 1-4 will return to his post after trying out some radio-work.

http://www.mtv3.fi/viihde/uutiset/televisio.shtml/1286764/kim-sainio-radio-rockista-big-brotheriin

The link to the news. Google Translate kinda give you a weird translation though.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: OmgItsPhil on April 20, 2011, 05:52:43 PM
According to the Swedish BB website, the Finnish production team are looking for Finnish speakers living in Sweden.

http://www.bigbrother.se/1.2105951/2011/04/20/sokes_finsksprakiga_manniskor_som_bor_i_sverige
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on May 07, 2011, 12:00:52 AM
According to the Swedish BB website, the Finnish production team are looking for Finnish speakers living in Sweden.

[url]http://www.bigbrother.se/1.2105951/2011/04/20/sokes_finsksprakiga_manniskor_som_bor_i_sverige[/url]

Yep. They have also received applications from a few other countries. Brazil being the most exotic from our point of view.

BTW...here's the logo for the upcoming season:
(http://img.sub.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/ohjelmat/big_brother/2011/1130821.jpg)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Matt91 on May 07, 2011, 04:45:57 PM
According to the Swedish BB website, the Finnish production team are looking for Finnish speakers living in Sweden.

[url]http://www.bigbrother.se/1.2105951/2011/04/20/sokes_finsksprakiga_manniskor_som_bor_i_sverige[/url]

Yep. They have also received applications from a few other countries. Brazil being the most exotic from our point of view.

BTW...here's the logo for the upcoming season:
([url]http://img.sub.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/ohjelmat/big_brother/2011/1130821.jpg[/url])


I really like the new logo.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: French on July 21, 2011, 11:48:00 PM
The seventh season of Big Brother Finland begin the August 31 :D

PS: I think "castings" are still open.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: JustinBieberDingus on July 23, 2011, 04:30:03 PM
I love that logo. It's so lively. I love BBs that change up their logo rather than just one or two colors.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: French on July 23, 2011, 04:32:26 PM
I don't like this logo. It's like Mozilla FireFox Logo, or something related to the environment.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on August 26, 2011, 08:55:22 PM
About 4 days to go to the new season. And the season starts on the 30th, not the 31st. The HMs will enter on Tuesday, launch will be aired on Wednesday.

Both executive producer and the head director are promising a very different season to what we are used to. The house won't look like something built for a home. But rather a fairytale wanderland. Also the average age of the HMs will be a bit higher than in previous seasons. And apparently the tasks will be complex. Or so they say anyway.

The theme is indeed secrets, as I thought earlier. Here's the promo for the season:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OS4hBRK3TNg

At the end it says "What's her secret?" and under the logo "More secrets than ever before."

The first set of secrets will be revealed on the first night. I think...at least that's what they're saying.

There are also a couple of pictures floating around, that have been captured from a feed. A feed, that was accidentally online for just a short moment. The people are just some test-people.

(http://i4.aijaa.com/b/00048/8569695.png)
(http://i10.aijaa.com/b/00891/8569696.png)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: joako on August 26, 2011, 08:56:42 PM
Welcome back antos!  ;D

It's great to have you here again to tell us news about BB Finland  ;D
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on August 26, 2011, 09:01:15 PM
Welcome back antos!  ;D

It's great to have you here again to tell us news about BB Finland  ;D
Thanks, good to be back. And I'm really looking forward to this season. Looks really promising.  :)

Oh, forgot to say...the most known Finnish BB-blogger had the chance to see the house. And told in his blog, that all the seats differ from the other seats. And apparently there is hardly any white in the decoration. What we have seen from the teasers, there's a picture of a rabbit somewhere. And a butterfly.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Brekkie on August 27, 2011, 06:00:04 PM
Looks like another Secret Story then.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: spongebob on August 27, 2011, 08:01:58 PM
Hope they do it better than the German idiots! ;) but to do that seems not to be difficult XD
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on August 28, 2011, 07:36:10 PM
Hope they do it better than the German idiots! ;) but to do that seems not to be difficult XD
So do I. And a lot of others. I'm not keeping my hopes up on the secrets. The house is supposed to be amazing...but the producers here have been known for blowing perfectly good ideas before.  ;)

The season might look promising...but...
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on August 30, 2011, 01:28:36 AM
It should be possible to watch this year's Big Brother Finland 24/7 live video streaming service over the Internet even if you're not located in Finland. You need to pay for the subscription, but that's all - there are no geographical restrictions. See below for the details.

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Big Brother Finland 2011 - the seventh Big Brother season in Finland - begins in about 16 hours from now, on this Tuesday, 30th of August, at 7 p.m. local time (19:00 EEST, 16:00 UTC/GMT).

According to the TV channel/company in charge of broadcasting the show locally (Sub / MTV3 Oy), they have purchased the necessary distribution rights which allow them to officially accept (paying) viewers from abroad. This means you should be able to create an account in their Katsomo.fi (http://"http://www.katsomo.fi/bigbrother") video portal and subscribe to their Internet-based BBF2011 24/7 live streaming service regardless of whether you're located in Finland or not.

The entire BBF2011 season (three months) goes for €39.90. But if you purchase it before September 2nd, you'll get it at the reduced price of €34.90. Major credit cards are accepted... I think.

After the purchase, you simply log in to the following page with your newly created Katsomo account and can then access the live video streams... once the service officially launches later on this Tuesday (the streams are not there yet as of this writing):

http://www.katsomo.fi/bigbrother (http://www.katsomo.fi/bigbrother)

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They advertise they have six different video streams for this season. The exact nature of these streams has not been publicly revealed... but as we got six video streams also last year, you could imagine them having remained more or less the same:

1. "Director's Cut 1"
2. "Director's Cut 2"
3. "Living Room"
4. "Bedroom"
5. "Yard"
6. "Camera Mix"

The DC1 / DC2 streams have human director and human camera operators. In these streams, pictures fluidly switch from one camera to the next, tracking the housemates and following the flow of the events in the usual style of a TV show.

While the DC1 is the primary stream (and the one you'll watch the most), the DC2 stream is used as a secondary stream in situations when people are doing different things in different parts of the house and the DC1 stream can't reasonably show everything alone. At times when the housemates have all gathered together, DC2 may revert back to an identical picture with DC1, but it can also simply display another angle to the situation. Sound engineers controls the mic lines for both the DC1 and the DC2 streams independently, so they can each have independent audio, fitting the picture, and with the irrelevant mic lines closed.

The other four streams are more like surveillance cameras, with the sound only coming from the fixed house mikes (that is, with all the echo, hum of air conditioning, etc.) But even these streams are occasionally adjusted remotely: for example, they might point the camera at a different direction, showing a more relevant view, or switch the view to another camera in the same room. In any case, these streams are not tended constantly by human operators the way the DC1 and DC2 streams are.

I'm pretty sure this year's video stream selection will be identical to the last year's arrangement or at least reasonably close to it.

In addition to the live 24/7 video streams, you will likely find...

1. the dailies
2. the Sunday eviction shows, and
3. the daily "BB Extra" talk shows

...for online viewing in the Katsomo service after they have first been broadcast locally. At least that was the case last year. All these shows are broadcast locally on TV for free, but last year, you needed a 24/7 subscription for getting an online access to the eviction shows and the dailies.

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Besides the streaming video service and the recorded shows, there's also the official BBF2011 website with news, video clips and updates (the site has also not launched properly yet, as of this writing, but will probably get more content and a better layout soon enough):

http://www.sub.fi/bigbrother/ (http://www.sub.fi/bigbrother/)

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Then there's the official discussion forum:

http://keskustelut.sub.fi/forum/big-brother-2011/ (http://keskustelut.sub.fi/forum/big-brother-2011/)

And, alternatively, the unofficial - but rather popular and well-established - local fan forum, BBPlaza, which usually caters for foreign / English-speaking visitors if needed, especially during international housemate exchanges:

http://bbplaza.net/forum/ (http://bbplaza.net/forum/)
http://bbplaza.net/ (http://bbplaza.net/)

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Last but not least, there's BBViewer - a free Windows software application for viewing the official Big Brother Finland 24/7 video streams in a more convenient way: in multiple panes and arrangements, without having to use a clumsy web browser:

http://bbviewer.blogspot.com/ (http://bbviewer.blogspot.com/)

BBViewer requires a user account in the Katsomo portal and a paid subscription to the BBF2011 24/7 live service. It does not allow watching the streams for free, but it's a great app for viewing them - much more convenient than the official browser-based interface.

This year's version of BBViewer has not been released yet, but the developer is committed to releasing it soon after the launch of the season... after which it will be available for download on the above-mentioned site.

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Hope this helps for starters... and serves as a starting point for anyone interested in the Finnish edition of the show! If you try to subscribe to the live 24/7 service but encounter difficult Finnish words, use Google Translate to your advantage. Or ask for help here, or on the above-mentioned forums.

This year's BBF house is said to be more colorful than ever... although that does not necessarily amount to much.

The tagline of the 2011 season is "More secrets than ever." (Or "More secrets than ever before.")
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on August 30, 2011, 11:43:35 AM
The rules have changed. HMs are now allowed to talk about nominations, apparently they are even encouraged to do so. Also nominations and eviction have been changed. They're saying, that this year the nomination and eviction system has been influenced by the US-edition. There are 18 chairs in the house...so maybe 18 HMs will enter in a few hours? Or not...doesn't really mean anything else, than there's 18 chairs.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: joako on August 30, 2011, 01:22:36 PM
The rules have changed. HMs are now allowed to talk about nominations, apparently they are even encouraged to do so. Also nominations and eviction have been changed. They're saying, that this year the nomination and eviction system has been influenced by the US-edition. There are 18 chairs in the house...so maybe 18 HMs will enter in a few hours? Or not...doesn't really mean anything else, than there's 18 chairs.
Ughhh, I hate it. It's not a good start for me with that change of rules  :-\
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: OmgItsPhil on August 30, 2011, 04:33:57 PM
The rules have changed. HMs are now allowed to talk about nominations, apparently they are even encouraged to do so. Also nominations and eviction have been changed. They're saying, that this year the nomination and eviction system has been influenced by the US-edition. There are 18 chairs in the house...so maybe 18 HMs will enter in a few hours? Or not...doesn't really mean anything else, than there's 18 chairs.

I hope that if they do go for a US style system, they stick to the way it has been and don't opt for a watered-down system like in Canada.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on August 30, 2011, 05:46:35 PM
The house:

(http://195.170.149.62/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/talo/1190813-max468x468.jpg)

(http://195.170.149.62/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/talo/1190814-max468x468.jpg)

(http://195.170.149.62/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/talo/1190816-max468x468.jpg)

(http://195.170.149.62/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/talo/1190801-max468x468.jpg)

(http://195.170.149.62/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/talo/1190818-max468x468.jpg)

(http://195.170.149.62/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/talo/1190824-max468x468.jpg)

(http://195.170.149.62/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/talo/1190811-max468x468.jpg)

(http://195.170.149.62/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/talo/1190812-max468x468.jpg)

(http://195.170.149.62/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/talo/1190809-max468x468.jpg)

(http://195.170.149.62/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/talo/1190803-max468x468.jpg)

(http://195.170.149.62/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/talo/1190817-max468x468.jpg)

(http://195.170.149.62/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/talo/1190828-max468x468.jpg)

(http://195.170.149.62/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/talo/1190805-max468x468.jpg)

(http://195.170.149.62/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/talo/1190821-max468x468.jpg)

(http://195.170.149.62/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/talo/1190822-max468x468.jpg)

(http://195.170.149.62/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/talo/1190820-max468x468.jpg)

(http://195.170.149.62/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/talo/1190823-max468x468.jpg)

(http://195.170.149.62/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/talo/1190826-max468x468.jpg)

(http://195.170.149.62/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/talo/1190825-max468x468.jpg)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: OmgItsPhil on August 30, 2011, 06:45:31 PM
The housemates -

(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/asukkaat/1188521-max468x468.jpg)
Name - Janica
Age - 30
Residence - Kirkkonummi
Occupation - Accountant
Marital Status - Single

(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/asukkaat/1188520-max468x468.jpg)
Name - Ben
Age - 21
Residence - Vantaa
Occupation - ISS Aviation Ramp  ???
Marital Status - Single

(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/asukkaat/1188528-max468x468.jpg)
Name - Suvi
Age - 34
Residence - Helsinki
Occupation - Hairdresser
Marital Status - Divorced, single

(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/asukkaat/1188530-max468x468.jpg)
Name - Tanja
Age - 23
Residence - Espoo
Occupation - Restaurant worker
Marital Status - Single

(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/asukkaat/1188533-max468x468.jpg)
Name - Oskar
Age - 33
Residence - Espoo
Occupation - Technology entrepreneur
Marital Status - Single

(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/asukkaat/1188532-max468x468.jpg)
Name - Tia
Age - 21
Residence - Vantaa
Occupation - Beauty industry worker and waitress
Marital Status - Single

(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/asukkaat/1188531-max468x468.jpg)
Name - Terhi
Age - 24
Residence - Helsinki
Occupation - Industrial surface processor, painter
Marital Status - Single

(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/asukkaat/1188529-max468x468.jpg)
Name - Tamer
Age - 26
Residence - Diyarbakir, Turkey
Occupation - Travel guide
Marital Status - Single

(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/asukkaat/1188527-max468x468.jpg)
Name - Stefan
Age - 39
Residence - Porvoo
Occupation - Sports facilities manager
Marital Status - Single

(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/asukkaat/1188526-max468x468.jpg)
Name - Sebastian
Age - 22
Residence - Oulu
Occupation - Student
Marital Status - Single

(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/asukkaat/1188525-max468x468.jpg)
Name - Salar
Age - 20
Residence - Turku
Occupation - Vendor
Marital Status - Single

(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/asukkaat/1188523-max468x468.jpg)
Name - Minna
Age - 20
Residence - Joensuu
Occupation - Unemployed
Marital Status - Single

(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/asukkaat/1188522-max468x468.jpg)
Name - Mikael
Age - 23
Residence - Vantaa
Occupation -  Labour worker
Marital Status - Single

(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/asukkaat/1188519-max468x468.jpg)
Name - Annika
Age - 23
Residence - Espoo
Occupation - Student
Marital Status - Single
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on August 30, 2011, 06:59:30 PM
Oskar is also a porn actor.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on August 30, 2011, 07:10:39 PM
Ben just cleared up, what he does for a job. He's one of the people on the Helsinki airport, who transfer luggage to the planes. That's what his job despriction means. I was also in the dark with this, before now. He apparently studied to be a flight engineer, but haven't found any work in the field.

Also, Terhi has a secret mission: she has to stage one of the HMs as a bedwetter.

And btw...Terhi has a snake's tongue. Quite literally. Meaning her tongue is split in the middle.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on August 30, 2011, 08:04:43 PM
The rules have changed. HMs are now allowed to talk about nominations, apparently they are even encouraged to do so. Also nominations and eviction have been changed. They're saying, that this year the nomination and eviction system has been influenced by the US-edition. There are 18 chairs in the house...so maybe 18 HMs will enter in a few hours? Or not...doesn't really mean anything else, than there's 18 chairs.

I hope that if they do go for a US style system, they stick to the way it has been and don't opt for a watered-down system like in Canada.
So do I. But I wouldn't keep my hopes up.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Jäck on August 30, 2011, 08:23:21 PM
The house is hideous and I hate the US voting system... I think I'll have to pass on this series :(
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on August 30, 2011, 09:30:49 PM
Salar is originally from Iran. He has lived in Finland for 7 years. I think Salar and Tamer are the only HMs this year to be of foreign origin.

Minna seems to be nearly blind. And I guess she has partly the same condition that Bono of U2 has. Her eyes can't take bright light without protection.

There are also a couple of rooms, that are not in the pictures. One is a nest, kind of like the one BB Israel had last year. Only this one is inside. And the rules are, there has to be no less than 2 HMs at any time. And no more than 3.

The other room is more like a lounge I suppose. Kinda like the library in BB 5 Sweden.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on August 30, 2011, 10:54:16 PM
A couple of screenshots from the 24/7 live service:

(http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/7093/bbf2011katsomo0001.th.png) (http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/7093/bbf2011katsomo0001.png) (http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/8865/bbf2011katsomo0002.th.png) (http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/8865/bbf2011katsomo0002.png) (http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/4963/bbf2011katsomo0003.th.png) (http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/4963/bbf2011katsomo0003.png)

Viewing Director's Cut 1 at the moment. The black bar below the video window contains links to the other video streams. You can also open a live thumbnail preview pane showing what's going on in the other streams by clicking the "Näytä kamerat" link.

I already gave instructions on how to subscribe to the service in my previous post. The streams weren't yet up at the time, so I could only guess at how they're assigned and labeled this year. It seems the former "Camera Mix" stream has been replaced with a "Kitchen" stream. In other regards, the stream selection remains the same as last year.

Key to the labels of the streams:

Director's Cut 1 = Director's Cut 1
Director's Cut 2 = Director's Cut 2
Makuuhuone = Bedroom
Olohuone = Living Room
Piha = Yard
Keittiö = Kitchen
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on August 30, 2011, 11:18:27 PM
I guess Tamer is an early favourite. He's already known here.

And my first impression is, that the girls this year are really boring.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on August 31, 2011, 04:21:04 AM
So far, Tamer hasn't done anything worth mentioning. Almost everyone else has been more actively involved in the discussions and interactions. (OK, he has tried suggesting things a couple of times but seems not to possess the kind of charisma that would hold people listening to him for too long if there are any other distractions that might divert their attention elsewhere. Maybe it's his frail high-pitched voice?)

I think this year's house is easily the best or the 2nd best of Finnish BB houses - depending on what kind of design you appreciate.

Also, the casting seems fairly promising right now - could easily turn out to be great as well, but we'll need to wait and see. Airheaded teenage party queens and wannabe tabloid celebs seem to be missing this year which is only a good thing. The distinctive thing about this year is there are several single mothers as housemates.

The "nest" in the house has already seen some use as an isolated, "confidential" discussion space for groups of two or three people. The housemates like this feature of the house a lot.

A quick rundown of first impressions:

Janica - an attractive 30-year-old single mother, daytime an accountant, evenings and weekends a strip-tease dancer. Seems bright and lively, even though went to bed early on the first night.

Oskar - a male pornstar-turned-engineer, or the opposite way, or both at the same time, and he's aspiring to be a politician as well - seems generally like a nice guy (his physical habitus is that of a stereotypical skinny engineer type, despite his career in porn) and will probably become the trusted resident logical thinker of the house if he survives a couple of evictions.

Stefan - think of Shrek or something. A good-natured male giant (his weight must be something like 150 kg) with a deep, rough, muffled voice. Sometimes it's a bit hard to make out what he says, but he participates in conversions often. The girls of the house seem to approach him easily, they apparently see him more as a mascot or a father figure rather than a threat of any kind.

Salar - an Iranian-born, a bit chubby male who immigrated to Finland with his family as a kid. Speaks excellent native-level Finnish with no accent. Seems like a nice guy, a self-proclaimed "people person".

Terhi - a female with distinctive looks: dyed red rasta hair, lots of piercings, implants and ofter body modifications. Seems OK as a person this far.

Sebastian - the Bible thumber of this crowd. Seems generally like an OK guy, pretty smart. Doesn't normally drink, or at least not enough for it to show. Has prayed in the house already (alone in the lounge room) and commented on the house decor which, according to him, includes "false god" motifs. (For example, the face of Buddha is one of the decor elements.)

Tamer - A Turkish travel guide who has formerly appeared in a reality show about the work of travel guides. Follows Islamic traditions, doesn't drink or eat pork, he just finished Ramadan. Apparently popular in that other show, but I've never seen him before. Has a rather distinctive high-pitched, frail voice for a male of his age. Speaks rather good Finnish but with an accent.

Minna - the vision-impaired girl. Seems nice this far but hasn't shown much of personality yet. This far we know she likes horseback riding and writing stories and lyrics. (Has not published anything.)

Tia - this could be an interesting female housemate. Seems to hold strong political and ideological opinions, has perhaps some potential for causing conflicts or maybe flipping in some interesting way.

Suvi - another female housemate who will probably cause conflicts. Loud and dominating in discussions, maybe a bit irritating at times. Seems to like her voice.

Annika - the happy-go-lucky party-oriented blond. I'm not sure if she's airheaded or secretly smart... yet.

Ben - the alpha-male wannabe. Maybe. Not sure of this one yet. A generic kind of "everyman" guy.

Mikael - the grungy hippy slacker guy. Has a religious (Pentecostalist) family background but does not consider himself a "good Christian", more like one who wants to have some fun in life. Still, says he believes in God. Seems to have a penchant for smartass remarks. Could be the one who will not put up well with the more stressful tasks.

Tanja - a generic female housemate who often dominates and steers discussions, but not in a too irritating way. Not sure of the actual personality yet. Talks a lot.

(I reserve the right to change these opinions at any time.)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on August 31, 2011, 08:08:54 AM
Minna seems to be nearly blind. And I guess she has partly the same condition that Bono of U2 has. Her eyes can't take bright light without protection.

I think the cone cells in her retinas are missing or not functioning properly which makes her rely only on the rods (basically her night vision and you can't use that in bright light)... There's a specific term for this congenital disorder but I seem to have forgot it. Maybe there are some other vision problems too - likely a complete or near-complete lack of color perception. She says she can see some general shapes but she can't e.g. make out letters without enlarging them to huge proportions.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on August 31, 2011, 09:38:47 AM
BrutalGentleman, I have to agree with you on the impressions now. Tamer quite quickly turned out to be a bit boring, though his conversation about religions with Sebastian was interesting. To me anyway. Though, Sebastian did most of the talking. And there are a couple of girls, that really turned out to be interesting.

My favourites ATM are Suvi, Salar and Stefan.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Logan on August 31, 2011, 01:31:49 PM
i like the house....its like BB UK theme...very colorful
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on August 31, 2011, 01:51:26 PM
Suvi has previously appeared in the Finnish version of The Moment of Truth. She confessed being a bully in school. Also she confessed to had fantasies about her friend's husband. Though she didn't answer directly to the question, and therefore lost the 10.000 euros she had already won. She also confessed, that she thinks herself being more beautiful than her friend, and that she'd be embarrassed if any of her children would become overweight.

I think I don't really like her anymore after finding those things out. She's bubbly...but...
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: GrahamUKFan on August 31, 2011, 03:39:11 PM
what excactly are Tias  strong political and ideological opinions about?
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on August 31, 2011, 06:54:34 PM
Weekly task includes electric shocks. This is the same as in BBUK9. And BB 5 Sweden did this task the same way. Only this one has a twist. They also have a shot-bar. Quite simply the HMs have an option to buy shots in the bar. One shot costs one electric shock.

The HMs have been split to 2 teams. One of the teams takes on the electrick shock track. And the other half are bound together by handcuffs. They have some certain rules, they have to follow. If the half with the cuffs fails to follow the rules given to them, the task for the  electric team will be made more difficult.

I'm not quite sure, if the bar is open only for the electric team. I'm just guessing, it is. Since the cuffed team don't have the suits.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: spongebob on August 31, 2011, 07:38:49 PM
Is there an opening sequence atm?
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on August 31, 2011, 11:16:25 PM
Is there an opening sequence atm?

Yes, there is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMbD_0vTzz0

I personally kinda like this intro...but I'm not quite sure if I love it.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on September 01, 2011, 12:16:15 AM
what excactly are Tias  strong political and ideological opinions about?

She's skeptical of the benefits of supporting so-called "humanitarian" immigration (which in Finnish context means illiterate asylum seekers who just pop up here from 3rd world countries without papers, via human trafficking routes, and might or might not really have been persecuted in their country of origin, but are often granted a residence and may even later apply for reuniting their family in Finland) and/or multiculturalism as a socio-political ideology or as an actively pursued political goal. She supports a Finnish political party which gained a huge number of new voters in the last election and which some feel is too nationalistic.

She's also strongly pro-planned parenthood, thinking it's irresponsible to just get knocked up as a teenager and then live off of welfare with the baby. (Which might not rub some of the other housemates in a good way, them having once been teenage mothers themselves, or having been born to one.)

She sees overpopulation as one of the primary problems and concerns in the world and would rather adopt than get kids on her own. Additionally, she loves animals and has said if there's a fire in a house and she gets the choice of rescuing either a baby or a puppy, she might well rescue the puppy first, because that's just the way she is.

She does not support any further restrictions to private gun ownership. This is something that some high-profile Finnish politicians have suggested after the recent shooting incident in Norway. (She has apparently practiced some recreational hunting herself.)

Then again, in the diary room, she has expressed feeling sad/bad about how some out-of-the-norm housemates (primarily Stefan, the fat/big gentle giant, and Minna, the near-blind girl) sometimes get treated in the hous, and she has tried to be thoughtful and considerate about them herself.

During this week's task she's been a little down herself - even crying a bit silently and alone in the bedroom - for she's very afraid of the electrical shocks and pain she and her group must endure during the week. (Oskar, and a bit later Janica, noticed this and joined her in the bedroom to hug her and to cheer her up, but she's still not sure if she will be able to continue participating in the task and she's afraid they will fail their weekly assignment because of her.) Also, in the electrical shock shots bar she was the last one who dared to subject herself to the shock. It took lots of persuasion and encouragement from her housemates and multiple tries before she finally managed to bring herself to do it.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on September 01, 2011, 12:32:27 AM
The first beta version of BBViewer (http://bbviewer.blogspot.com/), an unofficial fan-made Windows software application for viewing the Big Brother Finland 24/7 Live video streams, has been released for this season.

Here's a screenshot of BBViewer 2011 with all the six streams running simultaneously:

(http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/5122/bbviewer20110001.th.png) (http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/5122/bbviewer20110001.png)

You can think of BBViewer as an alternative multimedia viewer application for watching the BB video streams: more handy and more elegant than having to use the offical Katsomo BB 24/7 Live web page (http://forum.worldofbigbrother.com/index.php?topic=547.msg22265#msg22265) with a clumsy web browser. The videos are displayed conveniently in a separate app window which is  independent of your web browser. You can rearrange the video panes as you see fit or pop them out into separate windows which you can pin on top in some corner of your screen.

BBViewer is free to download and use (donationware, actually) but using it requires an MTV3 Katsomo user account/password and a valid BBF2011 24/7 subscription so it's only useful for those who have subscribed to the service and paid for access. I gave instructions on that in an earlier post (http://forum.worldofbigbrother.com/index.php?topic=547.msg22190#msg22190) to this thread.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on September 01, 2011, 09:47:07 AM
OK, Tia (discussed above) has left the house!  :(  :(  :(

(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/uutiset/vko1/1195710-max468x468.jpg)

That's right. She went to the diary room, announced that she wants out, returned to the house, packed her bag and just up and left... by crawling into the "Nest" and going out by entering the camera corridor via an emergency exit door!

She was heard exchanging a couple of words with someone in the corridor, but this type of exit was clearly her personal decision, not an official giving-up procedure.

She only spent 1.617 days in the BBF 2011 house, which is clearly a new Finnish BB record.

It's sad because she seemed like an interesting housemate... more interesting than many others, I'd say. :(
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Depths of Bloomfield on September 01, 2011, 11:22:05 AM
That sucks, she was my favorite housemate  :(
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on September 01, 2011, 12:09:07 PM
^ A teaser of Tia's last diary room session is available here (http://www.bigbrother.fi/videot.shtml/1382761/maistiaisklippi-tian-tilitys-paivakirjahuoneessa). A longer video will apparently appear in today's daily.

In the teaser, Tia explains she's feeling distressed, anguished, and emotional all the time, doesn't feel like belonging to the crowd, can't understand all this drinking, and keeps wondering about what she's doing here when she's got her loved one and her pets back at home.

She also just can't understand how all those female housemates with underage kids are just chilling out in the house thinking their children will be "just fine". And she couldn't continue forward with the task involving those electrical shocks any longer as she simply can't take them - this would have been her 2nd day doing that, and she was already crying yesterday from the anxiety and pain. What is more, she doesn't want to be the one who would be directly responsible for them failing the weekly task.

Then she states she will leave through an emergency exit right now, and should BB try and block the exits, they'd be in big (legal) trouble, and they know it.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on September 01, 2011, 01:17:40 PM
A replacement for Tia will enter today after Extra. Which ends 7.30 PM local time. More likely the new HM will not enter immediately after the show though.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on September 01, 2011, 02:16:10 PM
(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/asukkaat/1195830-max468x468.jpg)
Name - Amanda
Age - 20
Residence - Sipoo
Occupation - Hockey-DJ (ie. she plays music at ice-hockey games)
Marital status - Single

Amanda is the niece of a very known business mogul in Finland, Harry "Hjallis" Harkimo. Also, she works for Jokerit, an ice-hockey team partly owned by Hjallis. He's currently the chairman of the board at the club. Also had Hartwall Arena built. Hjallis is also know as the counterpart of Donald Trump on the Finnish version of The Apprentice.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on September 01, 2011, 07:55:41 PM
According to the voting guide, the only difference this year would be a return to the system we had in the beginning. Meaning, viewers would vote for the HM they would like to stay and the HM with the lowest amount of votes would be evicted. At least the evict-votes seems to be history, which is good. Also it seems, that turbovoting will be in effect from the start. And of course it would also mean, there are no changes in the nomination system.

I guess it's possible these rules could change somewhere along the way.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: GrahamUKFan on September 01, 2011, 09:08:54 PM
thanks for the info, Brutal :)
I am really shocked by Tias views, somehow glad she left. I don't think its tolerable in any way. but then again its nice that she cares about others that she feels are left behind. this makes her a hypocrite. good first riddance.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on September 02, 2011, 04:32:17 AM
^ Despite all the provocative hard talk - which she mostly did as part of her introductory speech given to the other housemates during the first night - she was already showing some soft spots. It would have been interesting to see what kind of a person will emerge when Big Brother scratches the surface a bit... and if her journey in the house would have changed her in some ways. She had a good singing voice, too, which is something you can't always say about housemates...

All in all, I would have liked her to stay longer... especially as I have a hunch Amanda - who was quickly brought in as a replacement - will not be half as interesting a character as Tia was.

(What is more, Amanda appears to be a friend of Ben's in the outside world... maybe even more than, as they're now sleeping side by side on the same bed and had a suspicious conversation at night which could even have been lover talk... The whole thing with Amanda and Ben smells a bit fishy, or maybe it's one of those "secrets" or twists promised to the viewers but realized earlier in season than originally planned. Who knows... we'll have to wait and see.)

In other news today, Minna - the girl with vision impairment - is currently outside the house, being checked by a physician, because she started feeling dizzy and ill when doing the assigned task.

(Seven housemates - Minna, Suvi, Tanja, Terhi, Salar, Tamer and Stefan - have been handcuffed as a chain of people who must do everything together, except for visits to the bathroom or to the diary room. They even have to sleep handcuffed to each other. On Wednesday night, the task was made even harder as they were not allowed to sleep but had to keep moving (walking) all the night, and could only stop for temporarily disconnecting or reconnecting a member who needs to visit the bathroom, the diary room. It was during this task when Minna began feeling ill. None of the housemates has had a proper meal since entering the house as they have not earned their first weekly budget yet. Also, many of them are a bit sleep-deprived because they had a welcome party which for many lasted until the morning, and some sleepless nights before entering the house. Right now they're sleeping sound, though. The other seven housemates were assigned with another task which is the one involving electrical shocks and which served as one of the primary reasons why Tia quit.)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on September 02, 2011, 09:16:41 AM
Some of the secrets have been revealed as a part of a competition. The viewers have to connect a secret with a housemate. A couple of the secrets are out already, told by the housemates in question.

The secrets:

1. Erotic dancer (Janica)
2. Dated a Miss Finland finalist
3. A virgin
4. Father was a bankrobber
5. Being stabbed without noticing it
6. Porn actor (Oskar)
7. Hanging from meat hooks as a hobby (Terhi, just a wild guess)

I'm sure number 2 has come up at some point, but I'm drawing blank right now. I haven't really been paying that much attention at times.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Depths of Bloomfield on September 02, 2011, 10:47:27 AM

The secrets:

4. Father was a bankrobber
5. Stabbed, but didn't notice being stabbed
7. Hanging from meat hooks as a hobby (Terhi, just a wild guess)



(http://www.icocelebes.com/espandir/esparar/icoelenaanaya/gif05-elena-anaya.gif) That's weird.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on September 02, 2011, 11:53:38 AM

The secrets:

4. Father was a bankrobber
5. Stabbed, but didn't notice being stabbed
7. Hanging from meat hooks as a hobby (Terhi, just a wild guess)



([url]http://www.icocelebes.com/espandir/esparar/icoelenaanaya/gif05-elena-anaya.gif[/url]) That's weird.

Yeah...

Also, I think the virgin is Sebastian. Being very religious, he could well be saving himself for marriage.

Amanda and Ben seems to quite initiative. They do know each others outside the house, but they are not a couple. They told in the DR, that they will act as a couple for a couple of days. At least it seems this is their own idea. Some of the HMs already suspects, they really are a couple.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on September 02, 2011, 01:22:18 PM
2. Dated a Miss Finland finalist
7. Hanging from meat hooks as a hobby (Terhi, just a wild guess)

I'm sure number 2 has come up at some point, but I'm drawing blank right now. I haven't really been paying that much attention at times.

Number 2 could be Ben.
Number 7 is Terhi all right. She was discussing this with her housemates a couple of days ago and even showed the marks, or the piercings, or whatever she has on her back from/for that.

Minna has now been outside of the BB house for about 12 hours. (Still 12 more left for her... if she's coming back... the clock is ticking!)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on September 02, 2011, 01:43:06 PM
2. Dated a Miss Finland finalist
7. Hanging from meat hooks as a hobby (Terhi, just a wild guess)

I'm sure number 2 has come up at some point, but I'm drawing blank right now. I haven't really been paying that much attention at times.

Number 2 could be Ben.
Number 7 is Terhi all right. She was discussing this with her housemates a couple of days ago and even showed the marks, or the piercings, or whatever she has on her back from/for that.

Minna has now been outside of the BB house for about 12 hours. (Still 12 more left for her... if she's coming back... the clock is ticking!)
I'm also thinking Ben for number 2.

And Minna will be coming back in a few hours, during Extra. Also the reason for her illness will be told.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on September 02, 2011, 01:52:20 PM
Minna will be coming back in a few hours, during Extra. Also the reason for her illness will be told.

Yes, I just read about it on the official site. I'm glad it wasn't anything that would have prevented her from coming back.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on September 02, 2011, 01:58:24 PM
Minna will be coming back in a few hours, during Extra. Also the reason for her illness will be told.

Yes, I just read about it on the official site. I'm glad it wasn't anything that would have prevented her from coming back.
Yeah, I'm also glad she didn't have anything more serious like Harri. I kinda like Minna, even though she's a bit quiet. Seems smart.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on September 02, 2011, 05:31:22 PM
Minna is back in the house. Her illness was caused by dehydration.

Also, voting will start on Sunday. But it's not an evidtion vote. The votes will change a HM's life. I don't really have any idea, what it's all about. I'm guessing it has something to do with the 2 cages in the house.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: World of BB on September 02, 2011, 05:59:11 PM

Number 2 could be Ben.
Number 7 is Terhi all right. She was discussing this with her housemates a couple of days ago and even showed the marks, or the piercings, or whatever she has on her back from/for that.


Will she get punished for openly discussing her secret with the other housemates?

Also Oskars secret of being a porn star is hardly a secret given everyone knew about it from day 1.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on September 02, 2011, 11:02:43 PM

Number 2 could be Ben.
Number 7 is Terhi all right. She was discussing this with her housemates a couple of days ago and even showed the marks, or the piercings, or whatever she has on her back from/for that.


Will she get punished for openly discussing her secret with the other housemates?

Also Oskars secret of being a porn star is hardly a secret given everyone knew about it from day 1.
Probably not. Janica also told very early on her secret of being an erotic dancer.

But...I guess you never know, how the punishments will go this year.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on September 03, 2011, 02:42:51 AM

Number 7 is Terhi all right. She was discussing this with her housemates a couple of days ago and even showed the marks, or the piercings, or whatever she has on her back from/for that.


Will she get punished for openly discussing her secret with the other housemates?

Also Oskars secret of being a porn star is hardly a secret given everyone knew about it from day 1.


Probably not as it seems they haven't been given any instructions on keeping their "secrets" only to themselves, and yes, that's the strange thing. Once the tagline for this season was announced ("More secrets than ever before") - and the fact that the housemates have "secrets" in the first place - many fans naturally assumed this season would be some combined variation of Endemol's "Big Brother" and "Secret Story" formats. But so far it seems the personal "secrets" of the housemates are only there for some lame quiz competition (http://www.bigbrother.fi/uutiset.shtml/1374854) the viewers can participate.

There are probably other "secrets" hidden in this season's script, though. Or at least the production team has promised they'll introduce some rather interesting twists this year and all is not as it seems at first... but apparently the personal secrets of the housemates are not the primary theme for this season. I know, it's a bit confusing, but maybe this was the plan right from the beginning - it's difficult to say.

This season still looks somewhat promising... so far. At least the production team has reacted much better and more proactively to whatever is going on in the house and we have also got a bit more varied housemates than usual. (This could be due to a key member of the Finnish production team apparently having left Big Brother and an ex-member of the same team having rejoined.)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on September 03, 2011, 04:15:33 AM
The housemates are asleep right now (it's 6:15 a.m. here) but last night was pretty good. The housemates succeeded in their weekly task and received their first budget for grocery shopping.

BB did not throw a party for them but they managed to buy, along with the groceries, several six-packs of beer, which helped make the discussions a bit more lively. The housemates were in a happy and relaxed mood and there were lots of funny, informative or entertaining conversations going on all night, almost all of them conducted in good spirit and with lots of jokes and laughter.

I think it's the beginning of an end for the introductory getting-to-know-one-another phase. Now we'll soon switch to the phase two where the housemates are acting more like an established community with known members and different interest groups and power bases. In short, the BBF 2011 house is slowly warming up and the season starts "for real".


During the night, we came to know that Janica, just like Salar, only applied for the show with one primary goal in her mind: winning the big prize. Neither Janica nor Salar sees the experience alone worth it. They're only after the money or the thrill of winning, both envisioning themselves as one of the four finalists.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on September 03, 2011, 07:46:57 AM
The secrets. Just guessing, but number 5 could be Stefan. Being stabbed etc.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: OmgItsPhil on September 04, 2011, 07:11:15 PM
(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/asukkaat/1196670-max468x468.jpg)

Oh wow. The public are voting to give a housemate immunity until the final! :o
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Depths of Bloomfield on September 04, 2011, 07:19:03 PM
I don't like that. I see that more as a disadvantage as an advantage. You know he/she is in the final you don't have to fight for save him/her in the nominations, he/she will have the lower votes to win I think  ::)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Matt91 on September 04, 2011, 07:32:00 PM
([url]http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/asukkaat/1196670-max468x468.jpg[/url])

Oh wow. The public are voting to give a housemate immunity until the final! :o


I think if their going to do that they shouldn't let the winning housemate know (or the other housemates for that matter) that they have immunity until the week of the final. If said housemate is ever nominated then they (the producers) should just act like the housemate survived every eviction they face. I also think that if they're really going the Secret Story route this year the other housemates should be able to guess who has immunity in order to steal it from them. If a housemate guesses incorrectly they could just be automatically nominated for eviction and not allowed to guess again.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: OmgItsPhil on September 04, 2011, 08:04:32 PM
The voting counts on the site. Only the top 5 are revealed at each vote count.

21:17pm - Stefan, Mikael, Tamer, Minna, Sebastian

21:25pm -  Stefan, Mikael, Tamer, Sebastian, Minna

21:43pm - Stefan, Mikael, Tamer, Sebastian, Salar

21:51pm - Stefan, Mikael, Tamer, Sebastian, Salar

22:06pm - Stefan, Mikael, Salar, Tamer, Sebastian

22:14pm - Stefan, Mikael, Salar, Tamer, Sebastian

22:19pm - Stefan, Mikael, Salar, Tamer, Sebastian

Voting is still ongoing.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: joako on September 04, 2011, 08:06:57 PM
([url]http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/asukkaat/1196670-max468x468.jpg[/url])

Oh wow. The public are voting to give a housemate immunity until the final! :o


I think if their going to do that they shouldn't let the winning housemate know (or the other housemates for that matter) that they have immunity until the week of the final. If said housemate is ever nominated then they (the producers) should just act like the housemate survived every eviction they face. I also think that if they're really going the Secret Story route this year the other housemates should be able to guess who has immunity in order to steal it from them. If a housemate guesses incorrectly they could just be automatically nominated for eviction and not allowed to guess again.
I really like this idea. But I'm not a huge fan of given immunity until the final  :-\
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Jäck on September 04, 2011, 08:35:48 PM
Terrible idea. Let's remember that this was done in BBUK Celebrity Hijack and look who got the final pass, the most boring HM and he won it :o
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on September 04, 2011, 09:16:49 PM
More exactly the winning HM will get a free pass to the final week. If there's an eviction during the final week, then the HM would not be immune anymore. There is that small difference. So...this voting doesn't necessary mean a free pass to the final. Close, but not quite.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: OmgItsPhil on September 06, 2011, 05:39:14 PM
The voting counts on the site. Only the top 5 are revealed at each vote count.

21:17pm - Stefan, Mikael, Tamer, Minna, Sebastian

21:25pm -  Stefan, Mikael, Tamer, Sebastian, Minna

21:43pm - Stefan, Mikael, Tamer, Sebastian, Salar

21:51pm - Stefan, Mikael, Tamer, Sebastian, Salar

22:06pm - Stefan, Mikael, Salar, Tamer, Sebastian

22:14pm - Stefan, Mikael, Salar, Tamer, Sebastian

22:19pm - Stefan, Mikael, Salar, Tamer, Sebastian

Voting is still ongoing.

As of Tuesday 19:25pm, the votes are - Mikael, Salar, Stefan, Tamer, Sebastian.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: GrahamUKFan on September 06, 2011, 07:58:26 PM
wtf @ no girl in the top 5 - how is that possible?  :'(
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on September 08, 2011, 02:13:36 AM
wtf @ no girl in the top 5 - how is that possible?  :'(
I guess most of the voters are females. And there are quite a few strong girls in the house. Half of them are quite boring though. So that might be the other reason.

My favorite still is Stefan. But to be honest, one of the girls are more likely to cause conflicts. Besides Amanda or Minna. I think Suvi has the potential to cause more conflicts than any other HM. For that alone I'd like to see Suvi winning this free ride.

Seems like a guy is going to win this season anyway, so I guess it doesn't really matter.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on September 08, 2011, 05:31:32 PM
New HMs will enter on Sunday. How many, will be seen. Also some other twists will be seen. Though...intruders, not a twist. Already seen.

Also the count as of Thursday 19:26pm: Stefan, Mikael, Salar, Tamer, Sebastian

The HMs were told today, they are all up for voting. Then the votes were shown, as they stood at the time. No explanation was given by BB. So...the HMs think they are all up for eviction.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: OmgItsPhil on September 11, 2011, 07:14:01 PM
Results on Friday 19:26 - Stefan, Mikael, Salar, Sebastian, Tamer.

Results on Saturday 21:08 - Stefan, Mikael, Salar, Tamer, Sebastian.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: OmgItsPhil on September 11, 2011, 07:17:34 PM
The secrets have been revealed / confirmed.

Janica is an erotic dancer.

Mikael has dated a Miss Finland finalist.

Oskar is the porn actor.

Sebastian is a virgin.

Stefan was stabbed and did not notice it.

Suvi's father was a bank robber.

Terhi hangs on meat hooks for fun.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: OmgItsPhil on September 11, 2011, 08:24:22 PM
Mikael has won the public vote and will be immune until the final week. The housemates have not been told who has won this vote, but have been told what the vote was for. Stefan came a close second.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: OmgItsPhil on September 11, 2011, 08:33:41 PM
The four new female housemates are:

(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/asukkaat/1200136-max468x468.jpg)
Name - Liana
Age - 21
Residence - Helsinki
Occupation - Guard
Marital Status - Single

(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/asukkaat/1200144-max468x468.jpg)
Name - Veera
Age - 21
Residence - Tampere
Ocupation - Bar worker
Marital Status - Single

(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/asukkaat/1202190-max468x468.jpg)
Name - Kaisa
Age - 26
Residence - Tampere
Occupation - Clothing store assistant
Marital Status - Single

(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/asukkaat/1200140-max468x468.jpg)
Name - Netta
Age - 25
Residence - Raisio
Occupation - Hairdresser, dance instructor and bar worker
Marital Status - Single

Ben will live with the four women and on Thursday will decide who will enter the main house. Ben and the four new women will live in the house, while the other housemates will live outside.

(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/asukkaat/1202510-max468x468.jpg)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on September 11, 2011, 08:45:14 PM
I'm guessing in Kaisa's case "vaatemyyjä" means she works in a clothes store. I suppose the translation would be clothing store assistant.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: OmgItsPhil on September 11, 2011, 08:53:30 PM
I'm guessing in Kaisa's case "vaatemyyjä" means she works in a clothes store. I suppose the translation would be clothing store assistant.

Thanks antos :). I wasn't able to find the translation for it, for some reason it wouldn't translate online. :)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on September 11, 2011, 08:55:28 PM
I'm guessing in Kaisa's case "vaatemyyjä" means she works in a clothes store. I suppose the translation would be clothing store assistant.

Thanks antos :). I wasn't able to find the translation for it, for some reason it wouldn't translate online. :)
No problem. Sales associate could be another translation though.

Also, as the HMs know what the votes were about. And don't know who won, they are spcelutating it's Ben since he was called to the extra room immediately after they were told.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on September 14, 2011, 08:53:41 PM
The girl of Ben's choice will win not only a more permanent place in the house, but also immunity for 2 weeks. The girls were also told this today in the DR.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: World of BB on September 14, 2011, 09:02:41 PM
I hope they give the silly tasks a rest for at least couple of weeks. They seem to have been either wearing bee costumes or sat outside in rain coats for a solid 2 weeks now.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on September 14, 2011, 09:49:20 PM
I think this week's task is the compulsory recycling task we've had for the past few seasons. Just with some minor twists. Instead of just dismantling the appliances prior to recycling the parts in the appropriate containers they play chess with them. Essentially HMs against BB. Copper mining is something to keep the HMs busy. I think.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on September 15, 2011, 04:18:24 PM
The change in nominations: the HMs will nominate the same way they have every season. What's new is, that the nominated HMs will compete for the right to change another HM for either oneself or another nominated HM. And the winner of this competition has to make the change.

So I guess a mix of Power of Veto and what was used in UK. Not sure, since I haven't really watched either edition that much.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on September 15, 2011, 05:09:02 PM
The girl of Ben's choice is Veera. Veera also won immunity for 2 weeks together with becoming the latest addition to the house.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on September 16, 2011, 12:26:14 PM
Terhi, Oskar, Janica and Tamer have been nominated for eviction. However as said before, they will compete in a Lifeline-challenge. So one of those 4 will be saved for another HM who is not on that list.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on September 16, 2011, 05:15:21 PM
Tamer as the winner of the Lifeline-challenge replaced himself with Annika. So the HMs up for eviction are Annika, Janica, Oskar and Terhi.

I think it's goodbye to Terhi.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: OmgItsPhil on September 16, 2011, 06:25:55 PM
Early vote counts:

Friday 19:16pm - Annika, Janica, Oskar, Terhi

Friday 19:22pm - Annika, Janica, Oskar, Terhi

Friday 19:28pm - Annika, Janica, Oskar, Terhi
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on September 16, 2011, 08:17:25 PM
At the moment it seems, the final 4 could be Annika, Mikael, Sebastian and Stefan. There's plenty of time for that to change though. And I guess Mikael is in the final in any case. Doesn't really matter, if there's an eviction in the middle of the final week or not.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: World of BB on September 16, 2011, 08:48:54 PM
I hope Mikael really is through to the final week and they don't go back on their promise and invent a way for him to lose his free pass to someone else (as we have seen in at least one other BB edition).

Also, why is it that the nominated housemates that win the immunity competitions are always the housemates that I want evicted? For once, why can't one of my favourites win imunity and save themselves from eviction.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on September 17, 2011, 12:37:37 AM
Janica stripping:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xl13fq_big-brother-finland-janica-in-the-groove_sexy

Not sure, if anyone is really interested. Just sharing with anyone who haven't seen this. And I'm kinda drunk...that's my excuse.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Depths of Bloomfield on September 17, 2011, 01:44:59 PM
I though Terhi would be more popular by her strange looks but seems not  :-\ What is she doing in the house?
And.. how did she split her tongue?  ???
 
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: OmgItsPhil on September 17, 2011, 02:36:56 PM
At least this vote is a vote to save and not a vote to save and evict - those are so confusing.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on September 17, 2011, 07:33:39 PM
I though Terhi would be more popular by her strange looks but seems not  :-\ What is she doing in the house?
And.. how did she split her tongue?  ???
 
She's not really that interesting. And is complaining about the lack of cigarettes. Constantly.

And she told her tongue was split with a surgical knife.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Depths of Bloomfield on September 17, 2011, 07:37:26 PM
I though Terhi would be more popular by her strange looks but seems not  :-\ What is she doing in the house?
And.. how did she split her tongue?  ???
 
She's not really that interesting. And is complaining about the lack of cigarettes. Constantly.

And she told her tongue was split with a surgical knife.

Split with a surgical knife by who?  ???
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on September 17, 2011, 07:40:54 PM
I though Terhi would be more popular by her strange looks but seems not  :-\ What is she doing in the house?
And.. how did she split her tongue?  ???
 
She's not really that interesting. And is complaining about the lack of cigarettes. Constantly.

And she told her tongue was split with a surgical knife.

Split with a surgical knife by who?  ???
This I don't know. I think a professional of some sort.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on September 17, 2011, 09:46:17 PM
Who nominated who:

2 nomination points first, one point second.
Oskar: Minna, Tamer
Veera: Oskar, Suvi
Sebastian: Ben, Oskar
Salar: Janica, Terhi
Mikael: Tamer, Oskar
Terhi: Tamer, Oskar
Tamer: Terhi, Janica
Tanja: Oskar, Mikael
Stefan: Oskar, Tamer
Janica: Tamer, Oskar
Annika: Tamer, Minna
Suvi: Tamer, Oskar
Amanda: Terhi, Janica
Ben: Tanja, Janica
Minna: Annika, Oskar

Nomination points:

Oskar 12
Tamer 12
Janica 5
Terhi 5
Minna 3
Annika 2
Ben 2
Tanja 2
Suvi 1
Mikael 1 (doesn't count)
Sebastian 0
Salar 0
Stefan 0
Amanda 0
Veera 0 (immune)


So it seems the only HM to vote as was agreed in her alliance with Ben and Salar was Amanda.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: joako on September 18, 2011, 09:14:03 PM
OSKAR was evicted tonight

(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/uutiset/vko3/1209771-max468x468.jpg)
(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/uutiset/vko3/1209759-max468x468.jpg)
(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/uutiset/vko3/1209758-max468x468.jpg)

27.24% Annika
24.80% Terhi
24.37% Janica
22.90% Oskar

(http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/3206/oskarout.png)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: OmgItsPhil on September 18, 2011, 09:48:38 PM
Really glad that Terhi is still there. ;D
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Jäck on September 18, 2011, 09:52:08 PM
It was a pretty close one :)

Can someone tell me where I can follow this series? I don't think I'll get anything on Justin.tv.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on September 18, 2011, 10:53:03 PM
It was a pretty close one :)

Can someone tell me where I can follow this series? I don't think I'll get anything on Justin.tv.
Yeah...seems like this season will be difficult for predictions. I was so sure Terhi would be out. I guess for anyone who doesn't understand Finnish, Terhi is entertaining. For me she's not really that entertaining.

You probably can't follow this series for free anywhere, I'm afraid.

Next week a new element will be introduced. Not sure, if it's an original or a copy from somewhere else. Pandora's Box. The box will somehow affect the HMs lives in the house.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Danny on September 18, 2011, 11:01:54 PM
It was a pretty close one :)

Can someone tell me where I can follow this series? I don't think I'll get anything on Justin.tv.
Yeah...seems like this season will be difficult for predictions. I was so sure Terhi would be out. I guess for anyone who doesn't understand Finnish, Terhi is entertaining. For me she's not really that entertaining.

You probably can't follow this series for free anywhere, I'm afraid.

Next week a new element will be introduced. Not sure, if it's an original or a copy from somewhere else. Pandora's Box. The box will somehow affect the HMs lives in the house.


its a copy of Pandora's box, which is in the US seasons.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on September 18, 2011, 11:08:46 PM
its a copy of Pandora's box, which is in the US seasons.
Ok. I thought it would be a copy. The producers here rarely come up with anything original.

What is it all about, Pandora's Box? In the US. It's possible, we'll have a slightly different version. Though I really doubt it.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Danny on September 19, 2011, 01:28:18 AM
its a copy of Pandora's box, which is in the US seasons.
Ok. I thought it would be a copy. The producers here rarely come up with anything original.

What is it all about, Pandora's Box? In the US. It's possible, we'll have a slightly different version. Though I really doubt it.

Pandora's Box is supposed to be a game changer. In the most recent US season, it made the final 6 in 3 pairs of 2 and ended up changing who was up for eviction and everything. In the other seasons, normally the person who opens it can be punished or rewarded and the rest of the house can be rewarded or punished (depending on what the person who opened it got). I hope Pandora's Box can change the game for Finland but we wont know until it is opened.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on September 19, 2011, 05:54:12 PM
Pandora's Box is supposed to be a game changer. In the most recent US season, it made the final 6 in 3 pairs of 2 and ended up changing who was up for eviction and everything. In the other seasons, normally the person who opens it can be punished or rewarded and the rest of the house can be rewarded or punished (depending on what the person who opened it got). I hope Pandora's Box can change the game for Finland but we wont know until it is opened.
Ok. Thanks. Of course I could've just googled it, but I was too tired last night.

Anyway...Pandora's box in the Finnish edition works like this: the subscribers of 24/7 live feeds will have the opportunity to have a say in the events in the house. This week is the first time this will happen. And it's connected to Pandora's box. Which also will be opened 4 times during the season. We are voting for the HM we'd like to open the box. The HM then has the choice of either get something bad for oneself and good for everyone else. Or good for oneself and bad for everyone else.

Also there's a fake weekly task going on. The task this week is Ninjas. They have to count all the ninjas that will appear either on the TV-screens or anywhere in or out the house. The real task however is a secret mission for Salar. He has to hide real cash around the house without anyone else noticing anything. Another HM will get a secret counter-mission to find the stashes. Of course without anyone else noticing.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on September 21, 2011, 07:39:58 AM
I though Terhi would be more popular by her strange looks but seems not  :-\ What is she doing in the house?
And.. how did she split her tongue?  ???

She's not really that interesting. And is complaining about the lack of cigarettes. Constantly.

And she told her tongue was split with a surgical knife.

Split with a surgical knife by who?  ???

This I don't know. I think a professional of some sort.

She has told the story a couple of times in the house but the only detail I can remember is she said it's definitely not something you should try at home. Oh, and the story goes she had to pull or tear apart the two lobes of her tongue herself while it was being cut. (Ouch!) She can also flick the two tips/lobes of her tongue independently so that they cross each other.

Unfortunately, she seems like a fairly ordinary person otherwise... and a bit dull even. She has been telling her housemates some crazy/funny stories of her undertakings in the outside world with her friends but hasn't done much anything worth mentioning in the house, except for complaining about lack of cigarettes and maybe behaving in a bit selfish way, in some regards.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on September 21, 2011, 09:19:16 AM
The BBF7 house got quite a bit drama last week.

A week ago, the housemates prepared for an ordinary Sunday night's eviction show. They thought they were all up for eviction. Near the end of the show, however, they were announced that the televoting has now ended and lines have been closed, but the viewers were voting on a free immunity ticket - all the way to the final week - for one of the HMs, not on eviction.

The housemates were never announced who the winner was (Mikael); they were just told one of them has won the immunity. Directly after this announcement, BB ordered Ben to move to the special spare room in the house and instructed him to lock the two sound-proof doors behind him. The other HMs, who were still sitting on the couches, took this as an obvious sign of Ben being the winner. Ben found a bottle of sparkling wine and a bouquet of roses in the room. There was also something to eat on the table. He sat down on a bean-bag chair, waiting for further instructions, and he was obviously thinking, at least for a while, that he had won the immunity.

While Ben was locked in the room, the live eviction show ended. The other HMs were soon ordered to go outside in the yard... and they were then instructed to leave the yard through a door in the back which leads to the outdoor task area. They had no time for any preparations, so they were wearing their Sunday best with makeup and all. In the task area, they then found out they have to "mine copper" from a huge pile of sand (there were small copper bits and pieces hidden in the sand) and play chess against Big Brother where each piece is some broken recyclable househould appliance, also containing copper.

The task area featured a "recycling station", set apart in the back, and there were tools and clothes and other gear (safety glasses, steel-capped boots, helmets, overalls) for dismantling the "chess pieces" they won in the game of chess. They also had shovels for "mining" the copper from the pile of sand. But they had to sleep outdoors, in sleeping bags, under a frail canopy with no walls. BB provided them with food and (second-hand) clothes, and they also had a microwave oven and a range at their disposal in the task area. And most of them (but not all) also got their suitcases which had been packed in preparation for the possible eviction back in the house and then locked in the storage room before the eviction show began.

During the time the other HMs entered the task area, Ben was alone in the house, locked in the spare room, still thinking he might have won the immunity. Then, suddenly, four new female HM candidates entered the room through the spare room's private diary room. (This was probably when Ben figured out he is not likely to have won the immunity, but he was clearly glowing for a while when he was still alone, thinking he might have won it.)

Ben and the new girls were kept in the room for a while. They used that time for introducing themselves to each other and for drinking the wine and enjoying the food catered for them on the table. When they were finally allowed to leave the spare room, they found, bafflingly, an empty BB house with no other housemates. Most of the beds in the bedroom had also been removed. Neither Ben nor the four new girls knew anything about the fate of the other housemates.

It was soon revealed to Ben that the four new female housemates are not housemates proper but housemate candidates who need to woo Ben in every possible way to win his favor and trust, competing against each other. And at the end of the week, Ben is required to promote one of them to a real housemate, and the other three girls will have to leave. As has been reported earlier, Ben chose Veera and the other three girls (Liana, Kaisa and Netta) were evicted after only four days in the house. But those four days involved lots of drinking, partying, great meals, etc. and the girls had to pamper Ben in many ways and also sleep in the same bed with him. What is more, Ben was also allowed to invite them, one at a time, to the spare room, which had now been turned into a private bedroom for him, with a queen-size bed.

OK, all good and well, but Ben has an inside-the-house love affair with another HM, Amanda. And Amanda spent the week camping in the outdoor task area with the other HMs. Before last week's task, Ben and Amanda slept together in the same bed and were often seen caressing and kissing each other and doing... who knows what.

During Ben's special "harem" week, he slept with each of the four new girls... not quite that way, but still, doing similar things with them as he has been doing with Amanda. Including kissing, hugging, petting and - at least with one of the girls - fingering and a handjob. (Or something like that. It's hard to tell exactly as they were covered by a duvet. But the nightshot IR pictures and the accompanying audio were clear enough you can definitely say there was something more going on than just sleeping.)

Now, after a couple of days, Big Brother started showing video clips of these events to Amanda in the diary room of the outdoor task area, and she was allowed to tell about the things she saw to the other housemates. Quite predictably, all hell broke loose among the women of the house in the task area, and not too many men were amused about Ben's undertakings, either. Ben was seen as cheating on Amanda. Amanda broke in tears and was comforted by the other women.

Soon after this, BB called Mikael (whose love interest in the house is Annika) in the diary room of the task area and assigned him a special task: he had to get drunk in the diary room, leave the task area through the backdoor of the diary room (blindfolded), and re-enter the house, joining Ben and the four new girls for a couple of hours. Ben and the four female HM candidates were having a bubble-bath party in the outdoor jacuzzi while Mikael joined them. Ben was happy to see him, not knowing about the fate of the other HMs but Mikael was not allowed to tell him anything about them at all, and especially nothing about Amanda. He was just brought there for the party, no questions please.

After some four hours in the party, Mikael disappeared through the main diary room of the house and re-entered the outdoor task area through the task area's diary room. While he was away, Annika (his love interest in the house) was already seen crying and imagining the worst as she thought those new "vamps" in the house will seduce Mikael, too. Again, Mikael was not allowed to tell the other HMs anything about what was going on in the house.

The next day, Amanda and Annika were suddenly instructed to leave the task area through the diary room and they were led into the house, blindfolded, only to find themselves in the spare room's diary room. When they entered the house, they found the four female HM candidates in there, waiting for their movie night to begin. Even though both Annika and Amanda knew about what had been going on in the house, they introduced themselves nicely to the other girls and joined them for watching a movie. (It was a romantic comedy called "No strings attached", by the way, if I recall correctly. BB's sense of irony.) Ben was not allowed to take part in this: the spare room was locked and he was instructed to stay on the other side of the house, so he did not know about Amanda visiting the house. After the movie was over (it was a bit awkward, as the two girls had their smelly task area clothes on and had not been allowed to take a shower, and the other four girls were wearing their best and had make-up on and everyhing), Amanda and Annika were ordered to leave the house through the diary room again, and were returned to the task area.

When the HMs were, by the end of the week, finally allowed to leave the damp, cold and rainy task area, BB had also been showing them some random video clips of Ben and the four new girls publicly on a video monitor, also located in the task area. The housemates, however, made a deal that this is between Amanda and Ben, and they will not directly confront Ben unless Amanda wants to make it public, and Amanda wanted to see how Ben will explain himself to her.

When the HMs re-entered the house, they found, to their surprise, only Ben and Veera there, having a romantic dinner provided by BB (this time with George Michael's "Careless Whisper" blaring on the loudspeakers - another ironic jab from BB?) - not four new girls as they thought. The other three girls had been evicted a couple of hours earlier. Ben explained his task to them, and the other housemates told him about their task in the outdoor task area. Amanda, however, did not hug Ben or approach him, for obvious reasons. Ben noticed this immediately, confronted her, and soon found out about the video clips.

Ben tried to put sugar-coating on everything and explained how nothing worth mentioning has happened: some kissing and backrubs, yes, but that's all, and it was part of the task. And OK, there was this one girl who was sexually aggressive and tried to fondle his private parts but he held her back all the time. He even explained that BB has probably faked some clips to make him look bad in Amanda's eyes. To the disbelief of the viewers, Amanda seemed to buy this all, and was soon seen hugging and kissing Ben again. Everything seemed to go back to normal.

Now, this week, BB has suddenly displayed more nightly video clips of Ben and the female HM candidates on the living room TV. Everyone got to see Ben kissing Veera, and Ben in bed with another girl, Netta, having an exchange with her about penetration. (Ben asked if it's OK, but Netta did not allow that.) In one of the shown clips, Ben is in the jacuzzi with three of the new girls and exclaims, when asked about Amanda, that he's not really missing Amanda at all. (See the latter part of this daily show (http://www.bigbrother.fi/videot.shtml/1393547/big-brother).)

This time, Amanda was clearly hurt - although she apparently does not want to display much emotion outside and wasn't really crying - and she no longer believes Ben has been telling her the thruth. However, they still made up, after lots of persuasion and apologies from Ben's part, even though Amanda said if this had happened in the outside world, she would have erased Ben's number from her phone and stop seeing him. For one reason or the other, though, Amanda and Ben are, once again, back to their normal cuddly-fondly-huggy behavior, which is a bit baffling to most viewers after all these revelations... except for the fact that Ben, Amanda, Salar and Tamer belong to a secret alliance in the house which pulls together when giving their nomination points... and maybe Amanda did not want to leave that alliance or turn Ben against herself.

So there you have it. Some soap opera we have this year... but at least there are lots of things going on!

(To Veera's defense, the only thing she has been doing with Ben in the bed is kissing and hugging and embracing... and she even said to Ben, on the record, that they can't really keep kissing like that... as she might fall for him for his looks, but not now as she knows of Ben's interest in Amanda. A video clip of this piece of pillow talk was also shown to all the housemates - including Amanda - so they hold no grudges against her. After all, she was only kissing. It was one of the other girls, Netta, who did more, but as Ben did not choose her, she was evicted among the other "failed" HM candidates.)

Needless to say, Ben's popularity has taken quite a hit among the viewers, and his housemates do not think too highly on him, either. It will be interesting to see if he will be nominated for eviction this week, especially as he is also running the largest (secretly scheming) nomination points voting alliance in the house and has formerly tried to make lots of personal/mutual non-voting deals with the other housemates.

All in all, Ben is one of the dirtiest "players" in the house right now, along with Salar. On many occasions, he has also been knowingly badmouthing other housemates for things they never did. The unexpected thing is, though, that Amanda chose to stay by his side and continue their close kissing/hugging relationship. But her diary room sessions reveal her to be quite disillusioned about Ben now... so maybe she's only doing that in order to safeguard herself against nominations.


Here are the (most) relevant daily shows. The orange dates are links to the official site and the video clips available there:

9/11 (http://www.bigbrother.fi/videot.shtml/1388093/big-brother-talk-show-): Live eviction show with no eviction: the housemates are told one of them will get immunity that will last up until the final week; Ben is ordered to the spare room; the new female HM candidates enter the house.

9/12 (http://www.bigbrother.fi/videot.shtml/1388657/asukkaat-muuttivat-tehtavaalueelle): Daily show compiling events from the previous day; the housemates enter the task area; Ben is left in the house alone with the four new girls.

9/14 (http://www.bigbrother.fi/videot.shtml/1389942/big-brother-): Amanda getting invited to the diary room of the outdoor task area... to watch a video compilation of Ben's doings in the house, and of the new girls (of which Amanda and the other HMs were not aware before this); Amanda coming back from the diary room and telling the other HMs about Ben's undertakings in the house; Amanda's reaction; Mikael taken out of the task area through the diary room to visit the house, getting drunk there, crashing Ben's bubble bath party, then being returned to the task area; Annika getting a nervous breakdown while imagining what Mikael will do in the house with the new girls.

9/15 (http://www.bigbrother.fi/videot.shtml/1390684/big-brother-): Amanda and Annika visiting the spare room in the house, meeting the new girls and watching a movie with them, then being returned to the task area.

9/16 (http://www.bigbrother.fi/videot.shtml/1391335/big-brother-): Ben promoting Veera to a real housemate; the other girls being evicted; the other housemates returning to the house from the task area; Ben trying to explain to Amanda what has been going on while she was away.

9/21 (http://www.bigbrother.fi/videot.shtml/1393547/big-brother): Housemates being shown revealing video clips of Ben's week with the girls; Amanda's reaction; more explanations from Ben.

More video clips (http://www.bigbrother.fi/videot.shtml/ohjelmat) (check out the calendar link as well for the older ones - Valitse päivä / Choose a day)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Depths of Bloomfield on September 21, 2011, 01:54:48 PM
So the 4 girls were prostituting herselfs for winning a place in the house?  ::)
F*uck Ben!  >:(
(http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h294/bpinkey411/Gossip%20Girl%20GIFs/1eubewjpg.gif)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on September 21, 2011, 02:22:48 PM
So the 4 girls were prostituting herselfs for winning a place in the house?  ::)

Pretty much so.

As far as the Finnish BB fan forum discussions go, many viewers thought the whole set-up was... awkward.

Apparently the new girls were only told about them having to compete against each other at a fairly late moment before entering the house. But after they were inside the house, BB kept constantly reminding them about the fact. For example, Veera and Liana got invited to the diary room and were shown a video clip of Ben's and Netta's night together - unbeknownst to Ben & Netta, of course - and BB simply told them "the game is on". (Netta was the most aggressive one of the four, and went furthest with Ben, and the clip was of their wildest night. Then again, Ben didn't choose Netta in the end...)

F*uck Ben!  >:(

None of the girls went that far... but it was not for Ben's lack of trying! :D (Although I guess mutual manual stimulation with Netta counts as well in this case.  8))

(Check out the links to the relevant daily shows in my previous post to this thread... I edited it a bit and added them in. I guess they should be viewable outside Finland? I'm not sure though.)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Depths of Bloomfield on September 21, 2011, 03:51:18 PM
If I was one of that four girls who did anything to stay, I would have had sex with the producers rather than Ben, at least I guaranteed a place in the house and people won't see as a wh*re as there are no cameras, far mor easy!
(http://i36.tinypic.com/2u5x8jn.gif)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on September 21, 2011, 06:14:31 PM
If I was one of that four girls who did anything to stay, I would have had sex with the producers rather than Ben


That would be this guy, then:     :-[

(http://static.iltalehti.fi/bigbrother/bbalkaaSPS_bb.jpg)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Depths of Bloomfield on September 21, 2011, 06:56:05 PM
If I was one of that four girls who did anything to stay, I would have had sex with the producers rather than Ben


That would be this guy, then:     :-[

([url]http://static.iltalehti.fi/bigbrother/bbalkaaSPS_bb.jpg[/url])


It could have been worst

(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m274/bekkiglittz/GIFs/GossipGirl/9580ada1.gif)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on September 21, 2011, 09:07:49 PM
Kim Sainio, the head director, today openly confessed to a newspaper that the last two seasons were crap. And that with no hype he can say this season will be the best one yet. Though, that really is a matter of opinion. For me this season is already the best.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on September 23, 2011, 09:28:41 AM
Salar, the scheming Iranian-born guy, got nominated for eviction by BB himself this morning. This was, at least nominally, a punishment for disregarding the microphone rules one time too many... but it likely also had something to do with Salar's threatening behavior towards another housemate, Sebastian, the day before yesterday.

So what happened the day before yesterday?

Salar got mad at Sebastian who farted in Salar's face. (True story. You can view a video clip of the incident here (http://www.bigbrother.fi/uutiset.shtml/1395161/salar-raivostui-sebastianille-tulisesti--katso-video). :P) He then angrily chased Sebastian around the dining table, seemingly agitated and with an intention of doing something violent to him. During the chase, Salar aggressively grabbed a chair and threw it on the floor. When he was called to the diary room to cool off, he also ripped his microphone transmitter belt off and tossed it on the floor instead of hanging it on a hook on the wall by the diary room door (as is the usual procedure in BBF when entering the diary room.)

(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/uutiset/vko4/1213968-max468x468.jpg) (http://i51.tinypic.com/50r56o.png)

Salar, just like all nominated housemates, will now need to wear a red armband at all times until his possible eviction on Sunday night. The nominations are still going on so it isn't yet clear who are the other housemates who will be up for eviction against him.

Since Salar is one of the masterminds in the largest nomination-points voting alliance in the house, his secret co-allies (Ben, Amanda and Tamer) are now planning to save him by giving their nomination points to Terhi (the pierced girl with red dreadlock attachments and split tongue) and Tanja (another female housemate). They all think Terhi and Tanja are "weaker" housemates than Salar and will get less votes from the viewers for keeping them in the house.

Salar's punishment means is he is not allowed to give nomination points to other housemates this week. As Salar is already nominated, other housemates also can't give their nomination points to him. Additionally, Salar is excluded from the lifeline competition for the nominees. The winner of this weekly competition will have to exchange themselves, or another nominee, for a housemate who wasn't originally nominated. Last but not least, whoever the winner of the lifeline competition will be can't altruistically exchange Salar for another housemate: Salar is going to remain as nominee no matter what.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on September 23, 2011, 12:11:20 PM
The nominees for this week's eviction are: Salar, Tanja, Terhi and Tamer. All of them are wearing red armbands now as a sign of their status in the house. The lifeline competition will follow next. As described above, Salar is not allowed to take part in it and he's not too happy about that.

The lifeline competition is different each week. This time, there's a special hot bench on which nominees will sit, one at a time. Big Brother will play some music. As the music is playing, the nominee sitting on the hot bench will have to eat as much stick ice cream as possible, as fast as possible. When the music stops, the finished ice cream sticks are counted. The winner will be the nominee with the largest count of finished sticks.

Tamer finished 6 sticks (one was probably incomplete, so maybe only 5 will count), Terhi 6, Tanja 8. The winner hasn't been annouced yet but it's likely to be Tanja unless there was some breach of the rules. (Tanja might have briefly lifted her bottom from the bench at one point... we'll see how BB is going to rule on that matter.)

Edit: OK, Tanja won - it's now official - and got a green armband, a mark of a "saved" nominee. She will have to do the exchange later on. At the moment of this writing, she's in the bedroom discussing the difficulty of choosing her replacement with some of the other girls. She's been crying a bit as well.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: World of BB on September 23, 2011, 06:23:23 PM
Tanja chose to save herself and nominate Mikael in her place. As Mikael has a free pass to the final only Salar, Terhi and Tamar are up for eviction this week, although I assume that all the housemates including Mikael will also think Mikael is up for eviction.

So did Tanja nominated Mikael because she dislikes him or because she suspects he is immune anyway?
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on September 23, 2011, 08:11:31 PM
So did Tanja nominated Mikael because she dislikes him or because she suspects he is immune anyway?


Tanja suspects Mikael might indeed be the one who won the immunity. And even if he didn't, she thinks he's popular enough to survive the eviction. Also, Tanja is quite sure Mikael gave her two nomination points earlier today, although I'm not quite sure how she came to that conclusion and what might be Mikael's reasoning for that. (Even viewers do not know who nominated whom yet. Rundown of the awarded nomination points will be published in 25 hours from now.)

In other news today, Mikael got a secret mission: as he's now up for eviction (although he really isn't because he's immune), he needs to pretend he doesn't want to spend time with Annika for the couple of next days, and isn't allowed to sleep in the same bed with her or kiss or stroke her or pay her close attention. The reasoning he must give to Annika about this is that he suspects the viewers don't appreciate couples spending too much time with each other so he wants to take some distance until Sunday's eviction. If he remains in the house, then it's a sign the viewers don't mind their relationship and they can then continue as a couple.

Annika didn't take this in a good way. Upon hearing the news that Mikael doesn't want to sleep next to her any more or show any public affection towards her, she retreated to the bedroom and started crying, feeling betrayed. She was being comforted by Amanda and Terhi who are both now thinking Mikael is a prick for doing something like that merely to secure his survival in the eviction vote.

Some video clips:

Mikael getting assigned the task (OK, no video here, just a picture from the diary room):
http://www.bigbrother.fi/uutiset.shtml/1396429/mikaelille-salatehtava-ala-koske-annikaan

Annika's reaction (doesn't include the bedroom scene, though... they'll probably save that for the daily):
http://www.bigbrother.fi/uutiset.shtml/1396451/mikael-pisti-poikki-annikan-kanssa

(http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/4453/bbf2011d25p0001.th.jpg) (http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/4453/bbf2011d25p0001.jpg) (http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/5168/bbf2011d25p0002.th.jpg) (http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/5168/bbf2011d25p0002.jpg)

Note: In the first picture, you can see Terhi's silicone "brass knuckles" implant in the back of her palm.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Jäck on September 23, 2011, 08:58:27 PM
Any chance that Terhi will survive considering Salar/Tamer are nominated so maybe the votes will be split between these 2?
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on September 23, 2011, 10:00:55 PM
Any chance that Terhi will survive considering Salar/Tamer are nominated so maybe the votes will be split between these 2?

It's really difficult to say, things are kind of uncertain right now. If minus votes were allowed (as they were in many earlier BBF seasons!) the evictee would be Salar, no doubt about that, since he has gathered lots of bad karma during the last few weeks. But since we only have plus votes this year, Salar may well have stronger chances of surviving than either Terhi or Tamer.

Salar is disliked because he's a scheming loudmouth bully who has also showed some potential for flipping in a violent way... but at the same time, he's a somewhat comical character who brings lots of action to the season, so he also has supporters. Because there are no minus votes, those actively disliking Salar will need to get tactical and vote for Terhi or Tamer even if they didn't think too highly about them, either. Which is something people might or might not want to do.

At the beginning of the season, people thought Tamer could easily be one of the winning candidates because he was very popular in another reality show, "Travel Guides"  (Tamer was working as a travel guide for Finnish tourist groups in Alanya, Turkey at the time)... but in the BB house, he has been very different from his professional self: most of the time a very quiet loner fading into the shadows... and he has also appeared quite serious and cranky at times, couple of times getting into some serious conflicts/arguments with some of the women in the house. That said, Tamer has done better for the last week or so, participating much more in the discussions and action, so he might have gained some popularity now. He's still not a central character by any means, though.

Despite her rough appearance, Terhi is not a too interesting person... but she managed to beat Oskar in last week's eviction, anyway, so she might have a chance against Tamer, too... who knows?

It's Terhi vs. Tamer I guess... unless Salar has really come down in popularity due to threatening Sebastian a couple of days ago, and for a couple of other things. My personal bet is on Terhi having to leave the house but I admit I could well be completely off the mark about that. If Salar were to be evicted, it would be a fairly surprising result to me... but interesting and game-changing too.

Edit: For what it's worth, Tanja's prediction is the evictee will likely be Tamer.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on September 23, 2011, 10:41:29 PM
One of the housemates will be ordered to open Pandora's Box on Saturday. The options are:

1. A good consequence for the housemate who opens the box, bad consequences for the other housemates.

The housemate who opens the box will get a luxury dinner for two. They can choose whoever they want to dine with them. These two housemates will also get a private night in the bedroom. The other housemates will be locked into the small spare room with no beds for the night and they will only get crisp bread and water to eat and drink.

2. A bad consequence for the housemate who opens the box, good consequences for the other housemates.

The reverse of the above. The housemate who opens the box will still need to choose another housemate to accompany them.

In both cases, the housemate who opens the box will not be told that whoever gets to spend their night in the spare room with no beds will also be accompanied by some mice and grasshoppers. (Minna, the visually impaired girl, has some sort of fobia of mice, and I'd guess the other girls will not be too fond of the idea either. It remains to be seen whether those will be actual mice and grasshoppers though...)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on September 24, 2011, 11:56:11 AM
Annika has been quite sad, upset and emotional about Mikael's behavior today as well. (Yesterday, Mikael got a secret mission from BB: He needs to avoid any affectionate contact with Annika until Sunday's eviction. He explained this to Annika by saying he needs to take some distance from her because the viewers probably don't appreciate couples kissing and sleeping together too much, so that's why they can no longer share a bed and he will spend more time with other housemates - in order not to be evicted on Sunday.)

Annika can't understand this line of reasoning - how staying apart for mere two days would make any difference concerning Mikael's support among the voting viewers? Mikael's strange behavior and the likely reasons behind it has been a hot topic among the women of the house under the smoking canopy.

(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/7311/bbf2011d26p0001.jpg) (http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/7311/bbf2011d26p0001.jpg)

Meanwhile, Annika has been crying a bit more. She is trying to sleep over it and has found Ben's and Amanda's company comforting. Annika feels it would be a lot better if Mikael just said he's no longer interested, instead of playing games like this with her.  :-[
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on September 24, 2011, 10:39:47 PM
Okay, Pandora's Box was opened. Salar chose a good consequence for himself, bad consequences for his housemates. He got a luxury dinner with Minna while the other housemates got locked into the spare room where they need to spend their night accompanied by mice and grasshoppers. At least Annika, Terhi and Veera were crying and hysterical about the insects. Getting them into the room took a good while of persuasion. In the end, Sebastian had to carry Annika and Terhi through the spare room to its private bathroom, which is safe from the critters:

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Salar is pissed off as he didn't know what the exact consequences would be and had to watch and listen to the other housemates screaming and crying because of his decision. Minna is also quite upset on behalf of her housemates... but otherwise very happy about the fact that Salar chose her to accompany him for the night... as this means she can sleep on the other side of the house in the normal bedroom with Salar. (Minna has a serious phobia of mice.)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: World of BB on September 25, 2011, 12:57:27 PM
Anyone that is selfish enough to allow all other housemates to be punished in order to get a personal reward must be incredibly stupid. Especially when they are currently facing a public vote. After this Salar shouldn't really be surprise if he is evicted tonight, and even if by some miracle he survives, he will now surely be nominated for 2 points by all the housemates for the foreseeable future.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on September 25, 2011, 02:32:48 PM
Even though many of the housemates spent some time in the mouse-and-grasshopper-infested room before trying to sleep, only Mikael, Stefan, Tanja and Sebastian actually slept there. The rest crammed into the relative safety of the small adjacent bathroom and tried to get some sleep on its hard tile flooring. Those in the main room were on the watch and trying to keep the critters out of the bathroom.

Salar's reasoning for making the selfish choice he did was that a) he's up for eviction and b) he wants to get all the good experiences the house can offer to him before he leaves c) he thought the good consequence he chose would have been something far better than merely a nice dinner (maybe an exemption from the eviction vote or something), and d) he thought that whatever the bad thing might be, it's easier for 13 people to suffer through it together than just one person.

The other housemates have not assigned him much blame for this night yet, although some of them said they would have made a different choice in his position. If Salar survives the eviction tonight, it'll be interesting to see whether the other HMs will actually start nominating him now. Until now, he's been quite a popular character inside the house despite some of his antics so the other HMs might find it difficult to vote him. And the housemates who do not belong to any scheming nomination-points alliance seem to mostly want out, at this point, the quiet loner types, such as Tamer and Minna, who have not made close friends with anyone and do not always actively participate in whatever craziness it is that is currently going on in the house.

Today, Veera and Terhi were having a private discussion under the smoking canopy. They both agreed it would be a very surprising result if either Salar or Mikael would be evicted - and it would make it difficult to make any sense of what's going on any longer - and hoped it would be Tamer.

It appears Mikael's secret mission - avoiding Annika and not talking to her - has now ended. They were both called to the diary room which caused some speculation among the other HMs. But they still went their separate ways when they came back, with serious faces, saying they can't discuss it. According to a news article on the official BBF website, Mikael's secret task was already revealed to Annika in the diary room, but they can apparently only tell about it to the other HMs during the live eviction show. They have both behaved in a happier and more relaxed way now, despite of not making any intimate contact. The original information given to the viewers, and Mikael himself, was that if he succeeds in the task, he will be allowed to present Annika with a surprise gift bought by BB during the live eviction show.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Matt91 on September 25, 2011, 06:49:10 PM
Okay, Pandora's Box was opened. Salar chose a good consequence for himself, bad consequences for his housemates. He got a luxury dinner with Minna while the other housemates got locked into the spare room where they need to spend their night accompanied by mice and grasshoppers. At least Annika, Terhi and Veera were crying and hysterical about the insects. Getting them into the room took a good while of persuasion. In the end, Sebastian had to carry Annika and Terhi through the spare room to its private bathroom, which is safe from the critters:

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Salar is pissed off as he didn't know what the exact consequences would be and had to watch and listen to the other housemates screaming and crying because of his decision. Minna is also quite upset on behalf of her housemates... but otherwise very happy about the fact that Salar chose her to accompany him for the night... as this means she can sleep on the other side of the house in the normal bedroom with Salar. (Minna has a serious phobia of mice.)


This is terrible to say, but this punishment still probably beats having to spend an hour locked in a room with Jessie from BBUS.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: joako on September 25, 2011, 08:30:18 PM
TAMER was evicted tonight

(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/uutiset/vko4/sunnuntai/1215564-max468x468.jpg)
(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/uutiset/vko4/1215557-max468x468.jpg)
(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/uutiset/vko4/sunnuntai/1215563-max468x468.jpg)

33.30% Salar  :o
33.06% Terhi
32.64% Tamer

(http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/3653/tamerout.png)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: World of BB on September 25, 2011, 09:01:26 PM
TAMER was evicted tonight


33.30% Salar  :o
33.06% Terhi
32.64% Tamer

The person in charge of working out the percentages at BB Finland this year needs to go back to school and re-take their maths exams. Last week the percentages added up to 99.31% and this week they add up to 99.00%.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: joako on September 25, 2011, 09:05:04 PM
TAMER was evicted tonight


33.30% Salar  :o
33.06% Terhi
32.64% Tamer

The person in charge of working out the percentages at BB Finland this year needs to go back to school and re-take their maths exams. Last week the percentages added up to 99.31% and this week they add up to 99.00%.
LOL, I thought the same last week, and I thought the percentages were wrong so I decided to watch the live show, but the same percentages were given in the show.

I don't think it's hard to do the percentages right  ::)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on September 25, 2011, 09:21:30 PM
The percentages might not add up to 100% for two reasons I can think of: either it's because of rounding up the figures, which is unlikely since there's almost a percent missing on the first one and exactly a percent tonight. The second would be, that not all of the votes were countable for some reason. So they left those votes out alltogether. Whatever it is, the margin is still well within the acceptable error margin here. In any vote.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on September 25, 2011, 09:29:28 PM
Oh and...who nominated who and nomination points (2 points first):

Veera: Terhi, Tamer
Minna: Annika, Mikael
Amanda: Terhi, Tanja
Suvi: Tamer, Minna
Annika: Tamer, Minna
Janica: Annika, Veera
Tanja: Ben, Tamer
Terhi: Amanda, Minna
Stefan: Sebastian, Suvi
Tamer: Tanja, Terhi
Mikael: Tanja, Tamer
Sebastian: Ben, Veera
Ben: Janica, Terhi

Nomination points:

Tamer 7
Terhi 6
Tanja 5
Annika 4
Ben 4
Amanda 2
Janica 2
Sebastian 2
Veera 2 (immune)
Mikael 1 (immune)
Suvi 1
Stefan 0
Salar (nominated by BB as a penalty)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: World of BB on September 25, 2011, 10:05:05 PM
But when the difference between 1st and 3rd on a 3-way eviction is only 0.66% and the differnce between 1st and 2nd is 0.24%, then I would say that a 1% margin of error is not acceptable.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on September 26, 2011, 02:49:04 AM
Some notes from last night.

- After Mikael's secret task was revealed to Annika in the diary room (where they were called together on Sunday afternoon), they got further orders not to reveal anything to the other housemates. Instead, they need to pretend, together, that their temporary break-up was for other reasons than for BB pulling the strings behind the scenes. Mikael, having succesfully carried out the original secret task, got to choose a gift for Annika. He apparently gave her (or will give her at some point?) an expensive wristwatch by Guest (http://en.guesswatches.com/).

The relationship between the two has warmed up again now, and they have made up and secretly discussed about their feelings in the bedroom. (Viewers have not seen the actual diary room session yet where Mikael's secret task was revealed to Annika. This clip will be included in Monday's daily show.) In the bedroom, Mikael told Annika it was really hard to maintain a sufficient distance from her at all times as he wasn't allowed to touch her at all for those three days, even by accident, or the mission would have failed... and had it failed, then he would not have been allowed to explain the real reason for his strangely cold and distanced behavior towards Annika which would have been an horrible punishment.

- Ben, one of the scheming housemates who belongs to a secret nomination-points voting alliance, had a private discussion with Veera and invited her to join up. Veera agreed to although it's still not clear whether she'll actually vote as instructed or double-cross them in some way.

- Tanja and Sebastian have also had a private discussion where they cleared up a couple of personal misunderstandings. During this discussion, Tanja announced she'll no longer play the conflict-avoiding, nice, sidetracked, quiet girl of the house - which is the role she feels she has taken for the last three and a half weeks, and which has gained her nothing. Tanja is pissed off about the fact she has been nominated twice already and she feels that if the other housemates want her out, she has nothing to lose and may as well stop trying to be nice to everyone. She'll get closer to her real self, who will be more aggressive and talk back when something annoys her. And God knows there are some people in the BBF house whose behavior annoys her. (This is where it might get interesting...)

- The next weekly task will take place in the outdoor task area, again. This time, the housemates - or at least some of them - will be living in a trailer... on a virtual holiday trip, I guess. The housemates probably aren't expecting this kind of a journey to the outdoors at all as they just finished another task a week ago which required them to sleep in the task area... and now they are maybe ordered to do that once again. (The exact nature of the task has not yet been revealed.)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on September 26, 2011, 04:02:44 AM
In case you're wondering about the patterned beanie hats (http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/nostot/1190376.jpg) often worn by the housemates, or some other fugly clothing styles (http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/talo/store/1190921-max468x468.jpg) featured in the BBF house, they're the official "BB clothing line" merchandise for this year. The housemates have received an assortment of "official" BB clothes when they first entered the house. They only wear their BB T-shirts and wifebeaters occasionally, though. (Thank God.)

For some inexplicable reason, many housemates like to wear their beanie hats to both indoors and outdoors.

The weird striped fleece jumpsuit sometimes worn by Sebastian was sewn by himself. He's studying to become an elementary school teacher and the curriculum includes some training in arts and crafts. The jumpsuit was a student project of some sort.

Ben is another housemate who occasionally wears a (light gray) fleece jumpsuit.

Please don't ask. I don't have an explanation for any of these "fashion statements", either. (No. Not even for Annika's and Amanda's tartan pants!)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on September 26, 2011, 03:39:12 PM
The weekly task has begun. The housemates are in the outdoor task area on a car-and-a-trailer holiday trip, with "stylish" clothing and other props provided by BB:

(http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/7430/bbf2011d28p0001.th.jpg) (http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/7430/bbf2011d28p0001.jpg) (http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/4558/bbf2011d28p0002.th.jpg) (http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/4558/bbf2011d28p0002.jpg) (http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/3919/bbf2011d28p0003.th.jpg) (http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/3919/bbf2011d28p0003.jpg) (http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/4461/bbf2011d28p0004.th.jpg) (http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/4461/bbf2011d28p0004.jpg) (http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/7410/bbf2011d28p0005.th.jpg) (http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/7410/bbf2011d28p0005.jpg) (http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/1127/bbf2011d28p0006.th.jpg) (http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/1127/bbf2011d28p0006.jpg) (http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/2374/bbf2011d28p0007.th.jpg) (http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/2374/bbf2011d28p0007.jpg)

(See here (http://www.katsomo.fi/?progId=78983) for a video clip.)

Someone needs to "drive" the car during the journey. There's a car navigator voice which tells them where they're going and how much there's driving time left to the destination. There need to be five people in the car at all times while they're driving and the rest of the housemates spend their time in the trailer, except Salar and Terhi who got a punishment and need to go around the track with kick scooters right now. People in the trailer cannot come out unless the housemates in the car stop "driving." Occasionally they'll stop for a rest and unload their things. (They have another trailer behind the first one which contains food, barbecue grill, beach toys, deck chairs, etc. - all you need for a trailer holiday!)

They already stopped for 15 minutes as a punishment because Big Brother decided Veera had been driving recklessly, without keeping her hands on the steering wheel or her eyes on the road, and their car had gone off road. Veera doesn't have a driver's license, either. Big Brother has warned the housemates they might get stopped by a police patrol at some point. Breaks in driving are not counted to the total driving time so it takes longer for them to arrive to their destination if they have many of them. The first destination is 6 hours away.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: OmgItsPhil on September 26, 2011, 05:13:36 PM
About the missing 1%, the producers have acknowledged that the percentages shown were incorrect, and have said that 1% was given to housemates not even involved in the eviction vote, and that it then reaches 100%.

I don't know how you could manage to vote for someone who isn't nominated, but apparently you can. ::) ::)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Brekkie on September 26, 2011, 09:31:59 PM
Quite like the idea of that Weekly Task - in many ways it's classic BB.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on September 27, 2011, 12:35:32 AM
The housemates have a Canon PowerShot camera in a waterproof casing which they must use for documenting their journey.

Several smoking housemates forgot to take their cigarettes with them which makes them a bit tense and easily irritable. The HMs also stopped at a service station where they received a basket full of cider and beer cans, but those doing the punishment weren't allowed to drink until later. Meanwhile, someone stole and hid some of the cider cans, which caused a bit of drama. Especially Suvi, the 34-year-old hairdresser, was quite upset about that.

At one point, the housemates experienced some problems with the navigator and maps: they needed to piece together a torn roadmap before being allowed to continue the trip. Also, Salar and Terhi were quite irritated about their punishment, having to go around the track with kick scooters for hours to end while the others were sitting in the car and the trailer or having a break and drinking. Salar was talking trash about the other housemates, trying to get Terhi to vote for Janica in the nominations.

The housemates arrived at their first destination just moments ago, at quite late hour (it's 2:30 a.m.), and are now unloading everything they have in the storage trailer (as per BB's instructions), which is a lot of stuff... most of it totally unnecessary junk, including large inflatable beach toys which they have to inflate each time, skis, an inflatable kids' paddling pool, a bicycle, and a trampoline, to name but a few. They got a small shower some time earlier but apparently it's not raining right now. They have to sleep in the trailer although BB also allows them to sleep in the car. Before going to sleep they're barbecuing some sausages and small, round meat-filled pies on a grill they had in the storage trailer.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on September 27, 2011, 09:14:23 AM
Morning has broken... Sweet the rain's new fall, sunlit from heaven:

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Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on September 27, 2011, 12:11:26 PM
Minna, the visually impaired girl, just got a secret task from Big Brother. Once the housemates pack their things and start "driving" to their next destination, she needs to secure herself a place in the car. During the journey, she needs to maintain constant discussion about animals, all the time for the next couple of hours. If the other housemates in the car try to discuss something else, she should divert the topic back to animals.

So far, Minna has been a rather quiet, boring housemate. She's not too enthusiastic about taking part in the social activities of the house and she seems to have weird holes in her general knowledge about various things. It should be interesting to see how she'll manage.

Many viewers - and by now, also some of her housemates - are already hoping Minna would be evicted because she does not bring too much interesting action in the house. Her relative inactivity (or even laziness - she's very fond of taking naps) cannot really be explained away with her visual impairment and she rarely has any meaningful discussions with the other housemates. Most often she just sits there alone, somewhere in the perimeter of the crowd, without saying a word and without taking part in discussion.

Sitting quietly with her dark, long, straight hair, and with her facial shape, pale skin and sunglasses, she often looks quite a bit like a stoned (or dead) Ozzy Osbourne...  :)

(http://static.iltalehti.fi/bigbrother/minnasairaus0209HL_244_bb.jpg)

(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/uutiset/vko5/1217205-max468x468.jpg)

Edit: Minna has carried out her secret task quite successfully. The housemates have driven to two different destinations already and Minna has tried to talk about animals almost all the time. Salar was in the car during both trips, but they changed the driver and the backseat housemates (excluding Minna) for the second trip. Towards the end of the second trip, Salar was already clearly getting frustrated at Minna's rather one-track treatment of discussion topics:

Salar (sitting on the right front seat, with an annoyed tone): "Minna, you've talked almost four hours straight only about horses and fish! The last trip we did was all about horses!"
Tanja (who is currently "driving" the car, and wasn't there on the first trip): "Would you like to talk about horses, Minna?"
Minna (from the backseat, delighted): "Yes, let's talk about horses!"
Salar (quietly to himself): "Goddamnit." (facepalm)

(http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/7324/bbf2011d29p0009.jpg)

Minna: "But do horses eat pears?"
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on September 27, 2011, 08:39:08 PM
The housemates have arrived at their destination for the night. Big Brother rewarded them with a pool/sauna party. (Actually, the party is in their own yard, but the entrance to the house is locked so they still need to return to their trailer in the outdoor task area after the party is over.) Food and alcoholic drinks are provided by BB; the sauna and the outdoor jacuzzi are warm and ready for bathing.

Tanja has been talking about diary room matters earlier during the day. Since this is against the rules of the BBF house, she got a punishment and isn't allowed to take part in the party (she can't eat or drink or dip in the jacuzzi or go to the sauna.) She also had to choose another housemate who gets the same punishment, andwasn't allowed to choose Stefan or Sebastian because they would have been too obvious choices. (Sebastian is a Christian believer who doesn't drink and who often takes the role of a good Samaritan in the house. Stefan has often sacrificed himself for the rest of the housemates by volunteering for night watch turns etc., and he can't drink right now as he's on medication because of his sore ankle.) In the end, Tanja chose Minna. This was because last week, Salar chose Minna to dine with him when he opened the Pandora's Box, so Minna has just recently enjoyed a luxury dinner. Minna said she wasn't too sorry about Tanja's choice as she didn't even pack her bikinis with her when they left the house so she could not have gone to the jacuzzi and the sauna anyway. Both Tanja and Minna are required to be present in the party, nonetheless, even though they can't take part in it.

Some screen grabs from the party:

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Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on September 28, 2011, 12:45:57 PM
The housemates traveling in the trailer have got a secret task. They have been secretly provided with a bottle or two of vodka. They need to drink the vodka without getting caught or noticed by the five HMs driving the car. This also applies to breaks in driving when they unpack their things and have something to eat. The housemates traveling in the car cannot understand why the housemates in the trailer do not allow them to change places during the breaks and they're getting a bit suspicious about their behavior as well. (The housemates in the trailer are acting cocky and saying they've got such a great group in the trailer right now they don't want anyone else there.)

(http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/5096/bbf2011d30p0001.th.jpg) (http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/5096/bbf2011d30p0001.jpg) (http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/8363/bbf2011d30p0002.th.jpg) (http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/8363/bbf2011d30p0002.jpg) (http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/962/bbf2011d30p0003.th.jpg) (http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/962/bbf2011d30p0003.jpg)

In other news today, Veera and Stefan had a private discussion in the storage trailer. Veera is fed up with Suvi and is planning to make Suvi's life so difficult she'll quit voluntarily.

The housemates traveling in the car just figured out the other group probably has a secret task and said it aloud.

Moments later, the group of housemates currently occupying the trailer are having a heated discussion about sharing cigarettes, drinks provided to them, and food items. There are different views on how such goods should be distributed. The discussion ended with Janica feeling driven up against the wall, with no-one on her side. She got fed up with all the trash talking, left the trailer group and went into the car, exchanging places with Suvi. The other people in her group think their secret task has now failed as their group fell apart. Janica felt hurt because of something Veera said.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Brekkie on September 28, 2011, 08:14:25 PM
It's so simple but this task is one of the best I've seen (well, read about) on Big Brother in years.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on September 28, 2011, 08:37:23 PM
They definately blew the secret task. But the task also made things much more interesting for the next nominations. Revelations were made. Mostly on the drinking side. The HMs have already split in two camps. That much is clear. Not sure, if it's going to last for too long. Basically it's now Salar and his gang against pretty much everyone else. Salar's gang includes Amanda, Ben and Veera. Possibly Stefan. Everyone else seems to be on their own. Except Annika and Mikael. But you can't really ever know about those two.

Seems, like Salar is falling into his own trap. He's been the king of scheming. Or so he thinks...his alliance isn't perfect. Ben has nominated as he sees fit. No matter what has been agreed with the alliance.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on September 28, 2011, 10:27:41 PM
^ Janica also cried a bit later on, while sitting on the back seat of the car. She said she didn't like how they (the housemates in the trailer, especially Veera) talked to her, and how they (especially Amanda and Ben) were dissing Tanja's looks and opinions in her absence.



11:08 p.m.

The housemates have packed their things and are now ready for their nightly journey to the next destination. All these virtual destinations are cities in Finland, some of which have attractions which should be interesting to real RVers. Except for the fact that all the traveling our housemates will get takes place in the outdoor task area of the BB house.

(http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/6984/bbf2011d30p0004.jpg)

Tanja is the assigned driver for the first stretch tonight. She's still in the trailer, negotiating with the other housemates about who could take the next driving turn after her.

Stefan, who called shotgun earlier, is waiting at the diary room door, hoping to be let in before they start driving. He has something to say to the BB on behalf of Suvi, who is apparently feeling a bit down and crying in the trailer. (Suvi would have been a potential driver tonight as she was one of the housemates who hasn't been drinking. But she is experiencing some pain in her hips so she feels she can't sit for too long. She's also suffering from the withdrawal symptoms of nicotine. Most of the housemates who smoke have not had any cigarettes since three days or so.)

Minna, Veera and Salar are now sitting on the back seat of the car, prepared for the trip, waiting for Stefan and Tanja to come back so they can begin driving. They don't seem too enthusiastic.

(http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/2393/bbf2011d30p0005.jpg)

Veera (aggressively, with a commanding tone of voice): "Smile for me, Salarrrr!"

Salar stares straight ahead with a serious face. He apparently doesn't feel like smiling right now.

Stefan (yelling towards the car while standing next to the diary room door): "Salar, they don't let me in!"
Salar (gesturing frustratedly with his hand): "Well why would you need to go there in the first place?"
Stefan (yelling): "'Coz Suvi is cranky and she wants some medi... as she's going to drive tonight, so--"
Salar: "She doesn't need to drive tonight!"
Stefan: (something incomprehensible)
Veera (leaning forward on the back seat with soda bottles in both hands and shouting to Stefan with an angry tone of voice... the situation is clearly getting on her nerves): "Tell her she doesn't need to drive! Argh! Fuuuuuuuuck!"
Stefan: "Okay!"
Veera (with a lower voice): "If I had a water pistol I'd gonna shoot her!"
 
Stefan is unexpectedly let into the diary room.

Stefan (opening the diary room door): "Well fuck me."
Minna (to the other housemates sitting on the back seat): "Why does he feel the need to go there and ask anyway?"
Salar (fed up with waiting, with fingers on his forehead, almost doing a facepalm): "'Cause Stefan is such a dog he'll take orders from just anyone."

Veera (bouncing the plastic soda bottles rhytmically against each other in her hands): "Salar."
Salar (sitting next to her, with a quiet voice): "Mmh..."
Veera: "Salar!"
Salar: "What?"
Veera (speaking while breathing in): "Nothing!"
Salar (sighing): "...Okay."

Finally, everyone is in the car, the trailer door is locked, and they can begin "driving" into the night.

(http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/5319/bbf2011d30p0006.jpg)

Stefan is complaining about the uninteresting scenery. (They can't actually see anything as the moisture in their breath has steamed the windshield. Not that there would be anything to see, anyway, except the green walls of the task area. The temperature in Espoo is about 10 °C / 50 °F at the moment.)

(http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/3622/bbf2011d30p0007.jpg)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on September 29, 2011, 01:14:09 AM
They drove as far as they got. Before the police came and stopped the caravan. Fake police, of course. I only have the images from the official site. But the whole thing was hilarious. With the police first grabbing Tanja off the driver's seat. Tanja protested. Then it was Stefan's turn to join Tanja. He also protested. Soon most of the HMs joined Stefan and Tanja. Sebastian and Mikael first pulled a tarpaulin over one of the two policemen. Then threw water on him as soon as he was let free.

(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/uutiset/vko5/1218716-max468x468.jpg)

(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/uutiset/vko5/1218735-max468x468.jpg)

(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/uutiset/vko5/1218736-max468x468.jpg)

(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/uutiset/vko5/1218734-max468x468.jpg)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on September 29, 2011, 02:19:48 AM
^ The housemates were suspecting they were police from another country as their uniform did not look anything like the Finnish police would use. They also never spoke anything, only gestured with their nightsticks or grabbed the housemates by their arms etc. Not to mention the untidy hair, fake beards, fake mustaches etc.



The travelers have stopped and unloaded their things once again.

(http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/179/bbf2011d31p0001.jpg)

Stefan is trying to get some sleep in the small car. (There's not enough room for him to sleep in the trailer with the other housemates.)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on September 29, 2011, 03:14:10 PM
There was another funny segment today when Amanda, Janica and Terhi were allowed to smoke and drink secretly on the back seat of the car, trying to avoid being noticed by the housemates in the trailer. They didn't succeed in that too well - the housemates in the trailer actually did notice them smoking after a while and were quite sure some of them had been drinking as well - but especially Janica got delightfully tipsy, and some fun discussion  (http://www.katsomo.fi/?progId=79303)ensued.

The trailer holiday is now over, though, and the weekly task has ended. The housemates have been let back into the house from the task area:

(http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/2411/bbf2011d31p0002.th.jpg) (http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/2411/bbf2011d31p0002.jpg) (http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/7494/bbf2011d31p0003.th.jpg) (http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/7494/bbf2011d31p0003.jpg) (http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/1603/bbf2011d31p0004.th.jpg) (http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/1603/bbf2011d31p0004.jpg) (http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/1822/bbf2011d31p0005.th.jpg) (http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/1822/bbf2011d31p0005.jpg) (http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/2865/bbf2011d31p0006.th.jpg) (http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/2865/bbf2011d31p0006.jpg) (http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/9094/bbf2011d31p0007.th.jpg) (http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/9094/bbf2011d31p0007.jpg) (http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/1169/bbf2011d31p0008.th.jpg) (http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/1169/bbf2011d31p0008.jpg) (http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/3756/bbf2011d31p0009.th.jpg) (http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/3756/bbf2011d31p0009.jpg) (http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/8403/bbf2011d31p0010.th.jpg) (http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/8403/bbf2011d31p0010.jpg)

The housemates are called to the sofas. BB announces they have failed their weekly task. They were supposed to have a fun and relaxing holiday but there was all too much complaining and drama. Everyone just laughs as they were expecting this already. Since they were betting on 99% of their weekly budget, they only got a couple of euros for buying food for the next week. (As always, they will be provided with basic foodstuff, anyway: pasta, cheap canned meat, etc.)

(A picture gallery (http://www.bigbrother.fi/uutiset.shtml/1399789/asukkaat-kuvasivat-itse-karavaanireissunsa--katso-valtava-kuvagalleria) of photographs taken by the housemates themselves during the task. Here's another gallery (http://www.bigbrother.fi/uutiset.shtml/1399790/tassa-ovat-asukkaiden-itse-ottamat-kuusamo-bilekuvat--katso-jattimainen-kuvagalleria) from the party they had.)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on September 29, 2011, 04:10:21 PM
Just one correction: the budget is in units, not euros. Big Brother reserves the right to determine, what the units are worth.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on September 29, 2011, 04:16:33 PM
Just one correction: the budget is in units, not euros. Big Brother reserves the right to determine, what the units are worth.


Someone on BBPlaza has figured out (http://bbplaza.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=88&t=4303&p=428520#p428520) the equivalence of a single "unit" in euros. (They get 10 units per housemate for their weekly budget. 1 unit = 1.6 euros.)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on September 29, 2011, 04:33:02 PM
Just one correction: the budget is in units, not euros. Big Brother reserves the right to determine, what the units are worth.


Someone on BBPlaza has figured out ([url]http://bbplaza.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=88&t=4303&p=428520#p428520[/url]) the equivalence of a single "unit" in euros. (They get 10 units per housemate for their weekly budget. 1 unit = 1.6 euros.)

Ok. Does the calculation take into account, that Big Brother still randomly puts the pricetags on the goods available? IMHO it doesn't really matter, if there is a unit per euro rate to be calculated. The calculation don't really matter, since BB ultimately decides what the units are worth. Or what amount of goods the HMs get for any given amount of units.

In this sense the shop is kind of a mix of the other seasons there was a shopping budget. And season 5, where BB decided what the HMs would get. And when.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on September 29, 2011, 05:18:09 PM
Ok. Does the calculation take into account, that Big Brother still randomly puts the pricetags on the goods available?

I'd assume the unit pricing is mostly logical when converted to euros but there are some special decoy items each time where the price does not logically follow from the amount they get.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on September 29, 2011, 06:24:14 PM
Ok. Does the calculation take into account, that Big Brother still randomly puts the pricetags on the goods available?

I'd assume the unit pricing is mostly logical when converted to euros but there are some special decoy items each time where the price does not logically follow from the amount they get.
And I think there is no monetary value to the units. You can make all sorts of calculations based on previous seasons. It's still a completely new season with a new set of rules.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on September 29, 2011, 07:15:03 PM
Ok. Does the calculation take into account, that Big Brother still randomly puts the pricetags on the goods available?

I'd assume the unit pricing is mostly logical when converted to euros but there are some special decoy items each time where the price does not logically follow from the amount they get.
And I think there is no monetary value to the units. You can make all sorts of calculations based on previous seasons. It's still a completely new season with a new set of rules.

At one point (last week? the week before that?) they received a receipt from the supermarket where their groceries were bought. I think they discussed the equivalence between "units" and euros a bit but I don't recall whether they came to any conclusion. (Then again, I don't recall they would have considered the prices illogical, either.) What I do recall is the alcoholic beverages they bought weren't on that receipt... probably because they were likely provided free by Olvi, the brewery which has a product placement deal this year.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: World of BB on September 29, 2011, 07:35:42 PM
I'm using the bbviewer to watch the feeds. Could someone give me a translation of the menus, as I don't want to just randomly choose things and end up messing it up. Some are obvious, others not so.

Thanks.

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Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on September 29, 2011, 08:33:00 PM
I'm using the bbviewer to watch the feeds. Could someone give me a translation of the menus, as I don't want to just randomly choose things and end up messing it up. Some are obvious, others not so.

MiniMode - Mini Mode (no window frame decorations such as the title bar)
Kokoruutu - Full screen
Näytä/Piilota - Show/Hide
Aina päällimmäisenä - Always on top
Estä näytönsäästäjä - Disable screen saver
Muista MiniModen sijainti - Save/Recall the window position in MiniMode
Avaa PIPit automaattisesti - Open the PIP (Picture-in-Picture) subframes automatically
Teema - Theme
Globaalit näppäinoikotiet - Global keyboard shortcuts
Proxy asetukset - Proxy settings
Chat asetukset - Chat settings
Timeshift - Timeshift (not sure why anyone would want to disable this: enables the Play/Pause button, the two-hour timeshift seek bar and the "Suora" ("Live") button in all video streams)
Päivitykset - Updates
Tietoja/Ohjeet - Information / Help

Päävalikko - Main menu
Video kontrollit - Video controls
Chat - Chat
Videoarkisto - Video archive
Info Center - Info Center
Ilmoitusalueen kuvake - System Tray icon
Tehtäväpalkin painike - Taskbar button
Tarkista päivitykset - Check for updates
Tarkista päivitykset automaattisesti - Check for updates automatically

Toolbar buttons:

DC1 (Director's Cut 1), DC2 (Director's Cut 2), OH (Olohuone - Living room), MH (Makuuhuone - Bedroom), Piha (Yard), Mix (Camera Mix / Kitchen). These toolbar buttons are only active when you're in a simple single video pane mode. Also, the meaning and labeling of the four latter (non-DC) streams may change when there's some special situation going on, such as a week in the task area. However, changes in labeling which take place in the Katsomo service are not reflected in the UI of BBViewer: you can only see the alternative labels when you hover the mouse pointer over the video panes, in the top part of the video pane.

PIP - Menu for choosing a secondary Picture in Picture stream for the current video pane. (Uusi PIP - New PIP. A Picture-in-Picture is a smaller video frame on top of the larger main video frame, typically positioned in one of the corners of the larger frame.)

Multi - Menu for opening a separate video window for another stream. (Separate from the main window)

Mosaic Mode - Multiple rearrangeable and on/off switchable video panels in the main window instead of just a single stream. Disables the stream selection buttons in the toolbar. When you're in Mosaic Mode, see the right mouse button menu for choosing the visible video streams. You can rearrange the visible video panels by grabbing them from their title bars with the mouse or change their relative size by repositioning (dragging) the borders between them.

Chat - IRC channel/client for chatting with other BBViewer users

Video archive - Katsomo BBF 2011 video archive. You can watch the daily shows ("Big Brother"), the BB Extra shows, and the Sunday eviction shows ("BB Talk Show") here, along with other random video clips.

Info Center - simpler, alternative web browser for viewing all the news articles and embedded videos on the official BBF 2011 site without all the cruft.


Info Center tabs:

Uutiset - News
Tehtävät - Tasks
Salaisuudet - Secrets
Kuvat - Pictures
BB Extra - news articles related to the daily (Mon-Fri) BB Extra talk show broadcast on TV at 7 p.m. The actual shows are viewable in the video archives.
Asukkaat - Housemates (their profiles)
Arkisto - Calendar view to the news articles
Keskustelu - Official BBF 2011 forum (BBPlaza is maybe better)
BB Pedia - A Big Brother Finland wiki
Chat Stats - statistics for the IRC channel where you may chat with other BBViewer users


As for the right mouse button menu in the Mosaic Mode, there's a function called "Palauta alkuperäinen näkymä" which means "Restore original view".

Hope this helps! :)

If we get an exchange this year, you'll hopefully get your money's worth for subscribing to the 24/7 live service... as it's likely the housemates would be communicating in English with the exchange housemate for the whole week. At least that's the way things have worked for us in the last three seasons. (We've had an exchange with BB Africa, BB Pinoy (The Philippines), and BB Slavnih (Celebrity Big Brother Slovenia) this far.)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on September 29, 2011, 09:20:23 PM
Also, pushing the right button on your mouse on any of the toolbar buttons will open the selected camera in a new window. For example: if you're watching DC1 and want to watch DC 2 simultaneously, just select DC2 on the toolbar with the right-hand button on your mouse. Or laptop.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: World of BB on September 29, 2011, 11:28:09 PM
Thanks for the translations, it helps a lot.

If there is an exchange this year, then possible countries could be India, whose celebrity BB starts next week, or maybe even the UK. Although after 3 exchanges, they should really give it a break.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on September 30, 2011, 04:15:43 AM
If there is an exchange this year, then possible countries could be India, whose celebrity BB starts next week, or maybe even the UK. Although after 3 exchanges, they should really give it a break.


Someone has compiled a list of potential exchange countries:
http://bbplaza.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=422876#p422876

...if there will be an exchange, that is. (The months listed are when their season begins/began, except for France where the season has already ended.)

Having an exchange this year as well certainly wouldn't be a surprising new twist any longer, but the two latest exchanges we've had in the past three seasons were both fun to watch and they brought out interesting new sides of our housemates. (The first exchange was a bit awkward, though.)


The nominations today should be interesting. There are three couples in the house - Mikael & Annika, Ben & Amanda, Salar & Veera (even though only Mikael and Annika would probably count as a "true" couple) - and the "single" women of the house (at least Tanja, Suvi, Terhi and Janica) have just figured they should start nominating the couples or they'll be voted out themselves. Mikael and Annika might be targeting Tanja. Ben, Amanda, Salar and Veera have a voting alliance of which Stefan is a hangaround member, and they'll probably set their sights either on Suvi & Sebastian or Tanja & Terhi... except that Ben usually votes as he pleases despite of whatever it was they agreed to. And then there's still the lifeline competition among the nominees where the winner will be able to save themselves and exchange someone else in their place.

I'd hope to see something dramatic, such as the winner of the lifeline competition exchanging Ben in their place and him being evicted. But if there are two somewhat popular housemates (Sebastian, Janica, Mikael [who has the immunity anyway!], Annika) against the less popular ones (such as Tanja, Terhi, maybe Veera) it'll be one of the latter who will leave.

It is a mystery how the voting audience would react to Ben against the others. 24/7 viewers think he's one of the sleaziest and most cringe-inducing housemates of all times but those only watching the dailies or only paying attention to looks are maybe thinking higher of him. And with only plus votes in the game he might still command more support than Terhi, for instance, unless people wanting him out will vote for Terhi for strategic reasons.


Next week, 24/7 subscribers will be able to vote for who will be ordered to open the Pandora's Box again. The vote will be conducted on the official Katsomo Big Brother 24/7 web page - probably by choosing the name of the desired housemate from a list of all housemates at the bottom of the page, just like the last time when Salar was chosen to open the box. Voting requires a valid subscription to the 24/7 service and logging in to the official Katsomo Big Brother 24/7 web page with your Katsomo account. There are no additional voting fees: the right to vote is part of the 24/7 subscription. You can vote five times during the next week: once a day till Friday. This vote has nothing to do with eviction, it's only about Pandora's Box. After next week, there are still two remaining times when the box will be opened.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on September 30, 2011, 08:10:28 AM
Nominations have begun. BB is calling housemates to the diary room one by one to give their points.

By the way, if you catch Mikael saying "La gente esta muy loca... What the fuck!?" (his favorite catchphrase, along with meowing like a cat), it's from Sak Noel's "Loca People (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRx1HfZrj2c)".

The yellow plastic bottles (http://www.olvi.fi/web/fi/39) you can see many BBF housemates carrying in the house, with the word "TEHO" (Finnish for "POWER") on their label, are energy drinks provided by the brewery/beverage company Olvi. Olvi is one of the product placement partners (sponsors of the show) this season.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: spanish on September 30, 2011, 08:15:13 AM
I hate this song. It song sounds in all Spanish discos.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on September 30, 2011, 01:57:59 PM
BB called all housemates to the sofas. It was announced the housemates have nominated six (!) people in the eviction vote, and the first one of them is... Ben.

After two minutes of suspension and silence, BB called Ben to the diary room. Moments later, he came back with six red armbands. He left five of them folded on the living room table and asked Mikael to assist him in securing one of them around his arm. He then left the sofas saying he has nothing further to announce and the other housemates may leave the sofas as well.

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Speculation is running wild in the house now. The housemates are not aware of this, but the viewers have been told the remaining five nominees will be announced live during tonight's "BB Extra" show which is broadcast at 7 p.m. local time (16:00 UTC) and runs for half an hour.

The viewers have also been announced there will be no lifeline competition this week.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on September 30, 2011, 03:19:00 PM
OK, I dare you 24/7 subscribers to watch the DC1 timeshift buffer at about minus one hour from now... the bedroom scene with the three couples. Since the buffer is two hours in total, you still have one hour left when I post this message.

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Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on September 30, 2011, 05:12:36 PM
Ben, Suvi, Annika, Sebastian, Minna and Tanja are up for eviction this week.

Sebastian is safe, that's for sure. I would hope for Minna to go, she still really haven't done much for her to be interesting. Also I'm surprised Terhi wasn't nominated this week.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on September 30, 2011, 05:50:32 PM
The housemates, especially Suvi, are suspecting there's something fishy going on with the announced nominees. Suvi just can't believe Sebastian or Minna would be among them: it's a mind trick of some sort, BB is trying to bluff them. Sebastian does not believe so. He's quite sure there are people in the house who have given nomination points to him. Sebastian is taking it all in good spirit: he does not seem to worry about his fate too much. Minna is taking it harder because she would really like to remain in the house and she's been afraid of getting nominated all the time.

Salar is called to the diary room. He soon comes back announcing the housemates aren't allowed to swear any longer until further notice from Big Brother.

The viewers were also just told in BB Extra the housemates will get a party tonight. They can drink but those who are up for eviction and wearing a red armband aren't allowed to smoke. The smokers among the nominees are Suvi, Annika, Tanja and Minna.

(Earlier today, Annika and Veera were very upset and agitated about Minna and they were talking trash about her behind her back. Minna has a personal stash of cigarettes she brought with her in the house. She still has six packs left, but she doesn't want to share them with the other smokers who have already smoked their allotment and are short on ciggys right now. Annika and Veera were actually planning to nick some cigarettes from Minna today and they were rummaging through her stuff to find them, but didn't find any. In Annika's and Veera's opinion, all housemates are constantly helping Minna with various things and bending backwards for her because of her disability but she never even says thanks or rewards them in any way for their troubles. Sharing cigarettes would be a way to show some gratitude but she has made it clear she isn't going to do that. Annika and Veera are thinking Minna is spoiled, selfish, and even purposefully mean towards the other smokers.)

The housemates have been let out in the yard and the party has started so the 24/7 subscribers can watch it now.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BigBrotherFan on September 30, 2011, 06:11:20 PM
Are the ratings for that series good?
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on September 30, 2011, 06:42:55 PM
Are the ratings for that series good?
For Sub they are. Have always been. I'm not quite sure about the exact percentages, but last year BB had about 35% share on Sub. I'm guessing the share is around the same numbers this year. Possibly closer to 40%. Which is around triple to for example Mythbusters and The Simpsons, which are aired on the same channel.

Big Brother is the only show on Sub to be in TOP100 of all shows on any channel here. There's the Big 3 (YLE with two channels, MTV3 and Channel 4) who dominate the field. The numbers are normally 400-500 000 for Talk Shows and 300-400 000 for dailies. Whereas the most viewed shows on the bigger channels get around 1 000 000 viewers.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: World of BB on September 30, 2011, 07:04:26 PM
Out of the nominees, the 2 I wouldn't miss are Sebastian and Minna. They don't seem to do anything, I rarely notice either on the live feeds. But as there is a 8/5 female/male split, it's time for a female to go, so hopefully it will be Minna evicted.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on September 30, 2011, 07:12:10 PM
Out of the nominees, the 2 I wouldn't miss are Sebastian and Minna. They don't seem to do anything, I rarely notice either on the live feeds. But as there is a 8/5 female/male split, it's time for a female to go, so hopefully it will be Minna evicted.

I guess Sebastian is boring for anyone who doesn't understand Finnish. Then again, I guess his boring to some who do. He's smart, he just mostly talks. And he mostly talks about religion. Nevertheless he's one of the favourites to even win.

BTW...a link to the gallery of pics the HMs took on their virtual stop in Kuusamo:

http://www.bigbrother.fi/uutiset.shtml/1399790/tassa-ovat-asukkaiden-itse-ottamat-kuusamo-bilekuvat--katso-jattimainen-kuvagalleria
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on September 30, 2011, 08:09:19 PM
Out of the nominees, the 2 I wouldn't miss are Sebastian and Minna. They don't seem to do anything, I rarely notice either on the live feeds.

Well... Let's see... Sebastian has farted in Salar's face, tried hard to get into the car in the task area by climbing in via any partially open door or window, stuffing in his long legs (this was while he was suspecting they've been secretly smoking and drinking in the car [which was true] and the housemates in the car were trying to prevent him from inspecting them, and Ben eventually had to carry him away, and then he didn't want to let go of Ben...:D) He has also comforted crying Annika and carried him through the mouse-and-grasshopper-infested room, learned some basics of female closeness with Janica (Sebastian is still a virgin, he's saving himself for marriage), etc. etc.

Sebastian is a bit naïve (but in a fun way), especially considering double entendres, sex talk and other such things. He often says things which are OK when taken at face value but darn funny, unintentionally, when filtered through a dirty mind.

But above all, Sebastian is a great talker and listener and likes to pose interesting, intelligent morality or ethics questions to the other housemates, trying to get inside their head and analyze their motives... and generally trying to figure out what makes them tick, or what could make them tick better. You could say he's also an expert in trying to resolve conflicts among the housemates, or in trying to get the other housemates see - and possibly get rid of - their personal flaws in a constructive and thoughtful way.

Sebastian's only character flaw, if you can call it that, is that everything he does is based on the Holy Bible, in one way or the other, which might be mildly irritating at times - but not too much so. He's not pushing his religion (thank God!), but if someone asks him about his views or motivations for doing something, it usually leads to a discussion about religion.

All in all, Sebastian is a great guy - quite unlike any BBF housemate we've seen before him - and is likely to leave this year's house as second-to-last or last housemate. His heart is in the right place, so to speak.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: World of BB on September 30, 2011, 08:10:45 PM
This is my 4th season watching the feeds of Big Brother Finland, the others were BB1, BB2 & BB4. I can't remember why I missed BB3, I was probably following another countries BB and for the last 2 years (BB5 & BB6) I had very limited internet access so couldn't get the feeds.

From my point of view, not understanding the language, I develop very different favourites to the Finnish public. The housemates I like are the ones that do interesting things, whereas the public will often like people who say interesting things. This can be frustrating as my favourites will ofter get voted out early.

One of the reasons why I dislike Sebastian so much is that on day 1, within an hour or so of them entering the house all he wanted to do was go to bed and sleep. Everyone else was having fun and getting to know each other and he shut himself in the bedroom. So my first impression of him was very negative, and I haven't seen him do anything to make me change my opinion.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on September 30, 2011, 08:25:36 PM
One of the reasons why I dislike Sebastian so much is that on day 1, within an hour or so of them entering the house all he wanted to do was go to bed and sleep. Everyone else was having fun and getting to know each other and he shut himself in the bedroom. So my first impression of him was very negative, and I haven't seen him do anything to make me change my opinion.


That was probably because he was having a culture shock! ;) Sebastian doesn't drink and his motivation for applying to BB was letting the audience - especially the younger kids who are watching the show - see there's an alternative way of leading your life than just boozing and partying and having extra-marital sex, which was his preconceived notion of what BB is (mostly) about. He wants to be a straight role model for the audience, breaking the usual mold of BB housemates. He also thinks that however long he is let to stay in the house is God's will. He's not really trying to win the 50 grand. (Or so he says, at least.)

Sebastian has compared his stay in the BBF house to The Pilgrim's Progress (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pilgrim%27s_Progress), a well-known Christian allegory. Which I think means the house is anything but an easy place for him.

Sebastian is generally liked by all housemates except perhaps Ben and Stefan. I'm not sure about Salar, they seem to have this interesting love-hate-brotherhood thing going on. Sebastian is trying to crack Salar's head open so he can figure out how his mind works. He's partially an enigma to Sebastian. Salar, on the other hand, is probably a bit baffled about Sebastian and his interest in him, and how his usual loudmouth street kid bully tactics don't seem to work on Sebastian. I think he has begun to respect Sebastian on some level although it's hard for him to admit it because they're so different personalities and they're seeing the world through completely different eyes.

Edit: Oh, did I mention Sebastian's dad has apparently grown pot and has been a one-time (biker?) gang member (Sebastian slipped something about him having gang tattoos), and according to Sebastian, he has a similar personality to Salar and Sebastian thinks Salar is probably his favorite when he's watching the show. And Sebastian's step-mother is a former witch... (whatever that is supposed to mean...)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on September 30, 2011, 09:09:21 PM
This is my 4th season watching the feeds of Big Brother Finland, the others were BB1, BB2 & BB4. I can't remember why I missed BB3, I was probably following another countries BB and for the last 2 years (BB5 & BB6) I had very limited internet access so couldn't get the feeds.

I didn't really watch the first three seasons myself, and I only followed the latter half of BB4. (BB4 was the first season with an housemate exchange - to BB Africa - but it was a bit... meh. The exchanges in BB5 and BB6 were much better.)

BB5 and BB6 had younger housemates (18 and up, more party/fun oriented). The current season seems to be more about group dynamics, at large, than the individual housemates. At least for the time being. This might well change towards the latter half of the season, though.

A curious feature of this season is the number of single mothers (Tanja, Terhi, Janica, Suvi) and the number of in-house relationships/pairings (Mikael & Annika, Ben & Amanda, Salar & Veera)... which is not necessarily a good thing, as the pairs seem to spend a bit too much time in bed fondling and kissing each other instead of interacting with the other housemates. Also, we have not yet seen a truly game-changing eviction of a central character which would make a noticeable difference in the social pressure cooker that is the BB house. Also, this is the first season when scheming has been allowed from day one and some housemates (Ben and Salar) have taken full advantage of it.

From my point of view, not understanding the language, I develop very different favourites to the Finnish public.

That's understandable, of course. (I'm not sure how boozed-up Stefan growling unintelligibly in another language would work for me... Or maybe I would since he's growling unintelligibly in Finnish as well... :)) And those natives only watching the daily compilations have a yet different view about the housemates when compared to the 24/7 subscribers who "see it all" - all the discussions, full length and uncut, all the smaller gestures and related body language, the little meaningful events and bits of dialog which never make it into the daily show, all the scheming, how some little insignificant event or comment can lead to a huge chain reaction over the span of several days, etc.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on September 30, 2011, 10:18:00 PM
BTW, BG...what do you think, is the rule against HMs swearing just in Salar's head? Or real?
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 01, 2011, 12:06:12 AM
BTW, BG...what do you think, is the rule against HMs swearing just in Salar's head? Or real?

I could not source a news article on the official site that would have confirmed this swearing restriction. Then again, Salar said it was an order from Big Brother and that giving false orders from BB is forbidden. Who knows? It could be a prank for all I know.

Apparently Janica, Tanja and Terhi have grown fairly close to one another during this week... especially Janica and Tanja. Minna has also become close to Tanja, Terhi and Amanda.

There's a clear split in the house between the three couples (+Stefan) and the single women. Sebastian is not in either group, or he shuttles between both.

Annika and Terhi have had a drunken discussion in the sauna. They made up after a cooler period of a couple of days. Annika was jealous because Terhi slept in the trailer in close contact with Mikael during the weekly task in the task area. This happened after the party they had: both were drunk at the time. Nothing happened, though. It was just innocent sleeping with Terhi's head resting on Mikael's shoulder and Mikael's arm wrapped around her. Annika and a couple of other housemates just thought it looked bad.

Annika told Terhi she's a jealous kind of person even in the outside world. Or rather, a thousand times more jealous person: it's the Russian blood in her. (Annika's mother is from Russia.) Terhi fooling around with Mikael is OK if it happens in innocent sense, but sleeping in close contact with him is too much. Terhi assures Annika she's just friends with Mikael and she would never want to get between Annika and Mikael. And if she had to choose between Annika and Mikael, she would choose Annika, there's no question about that. Annika got very emotional upon hearing this and lowered her head with tears in her eyes. Terhi hugged her. The discussion continued for a while longer but ended with Annika stating Terhi understands her the best of all housemates and with both girls hugging each other.

Ben is feeling nervous because he's up for eviction. He would have liked Amanda to spend more time with him during the night but Amanda wants to share her time with the other housemates as well: especially those who are in the same boat with Ben, as this might be their last party together in the house. Amanda is also having second thoughts about the whole alliance/scheming thing. She told Ben she doesn't want to give her nomination points to Suvi any longer and she's going to feel devastated if Suvi has to leave on Sunday. Ben is trying to get Amanda to promise him they'll have no arguments for the next couple of days. (Because those would look bad in the dailies?)

Stefan is still hopelessly mesmerized by Amanda, especially when drunk... which is a bit awkward as the tiny Amanda is likely never going to respond to his feelings and only wants to be friends with the big hairy guy.

Minna is so drunk Big Brother has ordered her to go to bed two times already. Equally drunken Tanja is trying to help her get off her bra and change into a t-shirt.

Curiously, there has been no music in this party... or I've missed those parts.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 01, 2011, 12:47:55 AM
02:25 Drunken Tanja is helping the totally wasted Minna into bed.

Tanja: "Okay... ahm... Minna--"
Minna: "Yes? Hic!"
Tanja "--where's your underwear?"
Minna: "Wha?"
Tanja "Where's your underwear?"
Minna (emphatically): "Ask Ben!"
Tanja (with laughter in her voice): "Well I don't really believe Ben knows where your underwear is!"
Minna (with high-pitched voice): "Ben knows because I... effin' wher... Hic! ...goddamned bullsh... darn!"
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 01, 2011, 01:14:24 PM
During the previous night, Tanja got a drunken fit and had a clash with Amanda. According to Tanja, Amanda has mostly ignored her for the last two weeks. And even though Tanja didn't say so, I think she's pretty sure Amanda is one of those people who are trying to vote her out. (That was actually the case last week. This week's nomination chart has not been published yet.) Tanja thinks Amanda is no longer the person she thought Amanda was when Amanda first entered the house. Amanda was a bit offended by Tanja's words.

Tanja also had another clash with Mikael, who, according to her knowledge, had been saying some rather non-flattering things about her body and looks in the previous party.

Earlier during the night Sebastian and Ben had a conversation in the sauna (and a bit later in the jacuzzi) about their personal chemistry. Ben, who hates Sebastian to his guts and has been scheming to get him up for evicition, lied to him he has never wanted him out, or never played any games in the house. Sebastian sincerely revealed he has thought Ben is the most difficult person in the house for him to deal with. They made a deal they would try to understand each other better but it is quite likely Ben isn't going to do anything like that.

Forcing the plastered and defiantly resisting, laughing, giggling and swearing Minna to remain in bed and begin sleeping took about an hour for four people (Ben, Tanja, Amanda, Sebastian). At first, Suvi (also drunk) laughed her ass off while observing the situation on the neighboring bed but as Minna did not start obeying the others and it had been going on for God knows how long, Suvi got really mad at her and flipped and made quite a scene herself.

In the wee hours, Mikael had a long conversation with Janica (who was soaking in the jacuzzi and quite drunk) about his relationship with Annika and how his and Janica's friendship has eroded as a result, and how BB has probably tried to make it look like a love triangle while it isn't. Janica was a bit too drunk and interrupted the frustrated Mikael all the time by explaining more and more about her thoughts.

Finally, Salar and the drunken, horny, giggling Janica ended up under the same duvet in the bedroom. There was apparently some fingering or other kind of heavy petting going on.

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Currently, the drowsy housemates are suffering from heavy hang-overs. The always cheery BB has monitored them breaking the rules and punished them in various ways. Suvi needs to carry a megaphone backpack and a microphone helmet so her voice can be heard all over the house all the time. Amanda had to go into the birdcage because Tanja broke rules by sleeping. (They aren't allowed to take naps now.) Janica has spent some time in the birdcage this morning as well. Suvi also had to read aloud a children's story about recycling to all housemates who were ordered to gather to the sofas to listen to it as they had not been recycling their empty bottles and cans properly.

Tanja is having a bad hangover. She explained to Minna all she really wants now is to be evicted on Sunday because she thinks everyone in the house hates her anyway and wants her out. But if she remains after Sunday, she's going to just keep on provocating all the other housemates as she sees fit because she doesn't feel the need to be nice to other people any longer.

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Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: lennon on October 01, 2011, 03:13:48 PM
Suvi needs to carry a megaphone backpack and a microphone helmet so her voice can be heard all over the house all the time.

That's one of the best BB punishments I've ever seen.  ;D

Thanks very much for all the detailed updates, BrutalGentleman.  :)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 01, 2011, 03:41:10 PM
Suvi needs to carry a megaphone backpack and a microphone helmet so her voice can be heard all over the house all the time.

That's one of the best BB punishments I've ever seen.  ;D

Her voice is also booming from the house PA system in all the rooms where she's not currently present... or in the entire house if she's in the yard. And there needs to be another housemate accompanying her at all times. (Salar's comment when he returned from a quick visit to the bathroom: "There's nothing stranger than being on the shitter and hearing Suvi's voice all the time!")

Suvi got the punishment because BB has found there to be general disregard towards the microphone rules. Suvi suspects herself it's because she has a loud voice to begin with.

Thanks very much for all the detailed updates, BrutalGentleman.  :)

At your service!
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 01, 2011, 05:03:37 PM
Even though some of you are watching the live 24/7 streams (and the dailies and the available video clips) with no knowledge of Finnish, you might pick up housemates calling each other by their names... or mentioning each others' names in a discussion. Here's a quick list of common nicknames the housemates may occasionally use when referring to each other:

Amanda = Ama, Pikku Myy ("Little My", a character in the Moomin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moomin) stories; a little mischievous girl who is very small compared to the other characters, just like Amanda is tiny when compared to the other housemates, especially Stefan.)
Annika = Anneli, Ansku
Ben = Benkku
Janica = Jade (Janica's stage name as a stripper / pole dancer), Prinsessa ("Princess"), Barbie
Mikael = Miksu, Korso (a district in the city of Vantaa where Mikael is from)
Minna = Minde
Oskar (evicted) = Porno, Jeppe (Oskar's stage name as a porn actor)
Salar = Salarakas, Salami, Omar, Jafar, poika ("the boy")
Stefan = Eki, Isä ("Father" in Finnish), Faija (Helsinki slang for "Daddy"), Papa, Daddy - the housemates mostly call him by any other name than Stefan
Sebastian = Tyne, Sebu, Seba, Pastori ("Priest", "Minister"), Bastian
Suvi = Äiti ("Mother" in Finnish), Mama
Tanja = Ganja
Terhi = Tepa, Terppa

All vowels in these names are short and pronounced a bit differently than an English speaker would assume from the spelling. See here for a pronunciation guide (http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/finnish.pronunciation.html) - the table in the middle of the page. Note that the Finnish letter "J" is pronounced the same as the letter "Y" in the word "yellow"... so "Tanja", for example, is closer to "Tahnyah" in English spelling.

Commonly heard affirmative (positive) responses in Finnish (such as "yes", "yeah"): "kyllä", "joo", "juu", "niin", "on", "o", "olen", "jep", "aivan"
Commonly heard non-affirmative (negative) responses or pleas in Finnish (such as "no", "don't"): "ei", "älä", "älkää"
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 01, 2011, 09:53:34 PM
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Suvi preparing to go to sleep.

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Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 01, 2011, 11:41:36 PM
Nomination table, week 5

Housemate:Gave 2 points to:Gave 1 point to:Received points (total):
VeeraSuviSebastian2
Ben SebastianSuvi4
Minna AnnikaMikael3
Sebastian BenVeera6
AmandaSebastianSuvi-
SalarSuviTanja-
Suvi StefanMikael9
MikaelTanjaSuvi3 (these points do not count since Mikael has immunity)
JanicaAnnikaVeera1
Annika MinnaJanica6
Tanja AnnikaMikael3
StefanSuviSebastian2
TerhiBenMinna-

Up for eviction: Annika, Ben, Minna, Sebastian, Suvi, Tanja

Note how Ben's and Salar's alliance targeted Suvi and Sebastian and got what they wanted, except for Ben ending up being nominated as well.

It has been speculated the producers wanted six nominees for this week, instead of the usual four, so they could add two expendable "weaker" housemates, Minna and Tanja. This way they don't risk losing Suvi or Ben yet. Also, since the fans of each nominee will vote for their favorite, it's just more €€€ in the coffers.

I would like to see Ben evicted this week... but I'm also pretty sure the non-24/7 viewers have a much rosier picture of him than those who have actually seen him and his gang in action. So it's probably going to be Minna or Tanja. Since Minna is visually impaired, she'll likely get a certain number of baseline sympathy points no matter what she does in the house (or doesn't do, as might be the case here.) Tanja, on the other hand, has certain issues, especially in the last party, and she hasn't been featured too strongly or in a too positive light in the dailies... so Tanja will be the likely evictee even though she's a more interesting housemate than Minna.

Annika divides opinions. She has both haters and supporters... and only the latter should count when there are no minus votes. On one hand, Annika is sporty, youthful and attractive, in a bit crazy or playful and spontaneous girl-next-door type way. Obviously she's also very fond of Mikael, which is kind of cute. On the other hand, she's rather jealous of her in-house boyfriend, quite moody (easily going to the extremes with her emotions and not always in a nice way) and sometimes a bit selfish or thoughtless, even harsh with her words in the company of people she doesn't like too much. In any case, she should be relatively safe from her "haters" and I think she should remain much later into the season.

Sebastian is untouchable: a likely finalist. Suvi is probably the next weakest "ordinary" housemate up from Tanja and Minna in this eviction. Ben is a bit of a question mark. It's hard to assess how much of his initial support remains now that the viewers have seen his darker, scheming and lying side, and he's up for eviction for the first time. But only the 24/7 subscribers have been able to witness his foul play antics in full so he's likely going to clear this Sunday unscathed.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Josh on October 02, 2011, 09:44:26 AM
So far I like what I am reading (I read most of this at work on break) I may subscribe to the feeds even though I can't speak Finnish, from what I read they seem interesting to watch plus I will support any country that like to develop/expand live feeds.


I like how they twisted Pandora's Box, I wish they would do that here in the States a few times. If anyone who hasn't seen the US version here is a full description of Pandora's Box for BBUSA:

Starting in the final weeks (Generally Week 5 through Week 9) Pandora's Box will impose a situation upon the current Head of Household. Prior to opening Pandora's Box the Head of Household is shown a snippet of something good on the Spy Screen. The Head of Household is warned that upon opening Pandora's Box will release one good consequence and one bad consequence upon the Head of Household and the rest of the House. When the Head of Household opens the door to Pandora's Box (an adjacent room accessible only through the Head of Household bedroom). The Head of Household will be informed of which consequence is theirs and which one was unleashed upon the Housemates.

The first two Pandora's Box tasks were in Big Brother 11 USA and they were not "game changers" really. The first involved Kevin inserting his hand into a giant box believing it would give him $10k. The good consequence was that in the backyard $10k was pouring down in the backyard in $1 bills. The bad consequence was his had was locked inside the box as a punishment and one of the five Housemates would have to find the key to unlock him. This was really bad for him because Jeff wasn't in his alliance found the key but held off unlocking him until he got around $3k. Kevin was only able to collect around $600.

The second that year involved Natalie spending time with her boyfriend. The bad was she accepted to forfit her right to play in the next Veto competition. Pandora then gave her a second decision to allow her visit to be extended by 15 minutes and unleash various annoyances upon her Housemates and she accepted.

Big Brother 12 holds the current record of having the most Pandora's Box tasks with 4. The first task that year was a game changer in both a good and bad way. The first was Matt was awarded the rare Diamond Power of Veto. This Veto allows the holder to Veto a Head of Household's nomination but allowed the Diamond Veto Holder to name the replacement. He had a limited time however to use this Veto. The second was a new Saboteur was unleashed upon the House. Ragan was chosen by the public and won $20k for completing his task.  The remaining thee tasks were not game changers.

Big Brother 13 only featured two tasks like BB11. The first this year was Porsche was shown a screen with $10k separated into two briefcases. When she opened the Box she was then informed that the duo twist was unleashed upon the entire House (including herself) and she had to inform the rest of the House. She chose Kalia to be her partner and the third aspect of Pandora's Box was Porsche's partner would get $5k and she would get $5k.

The non-game changers did not give the Head of Household to take the "good" consequence or the "bad" consequence. Instead the Head of Household could get a good or bad consequence. Two of Pandora's Box tasks involved the HoH getting the bad "consequence" In BB12 Brittany/BB13 Rachel were both locked in Pandora's Box with Jessie from BB10/11 (and if anyone has seen BB10/11 being locked in a room with him knows it is a punishment). While they were in the room they were shown on a TV what the "good" prize was by Big Brother.

At least one Pandora's Box each year will give the Head of Household a "bad" consequence.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 02, 2011, 06:53:06 PM
So far I like what I am reading (I read most of this at work on break) I may subscribe to the feeds even though I can't speak Finnish, from what I read they seem interesting to watch plus I will support any country that like to develop/expand live feeds.


If you're planning to subscribe to the live 24/7 feeds, you might want to take a look at the beginning of this thread where I posted a couple of messages with some relevant links and information:

http://forum.worldofbigbrother.com/index.php?topic=547.msg22190#msg22190
http://forum.worldofbigbrother.com/index.php?topic=547.msg22265#msg22265
http://forum.worldofbigbrother.com/index.php?topic=547.msg22351#msg22351

The nice thing about the Finnish BB "fan scene" is there's this guy who has developed a free, unofficial video feed viewer application - called BBViewer - for each year's 24/7 feeds. (You still need the paid Katsomo account for actually using it, though.) The app is like a video player on steroids, specifically customized for watching BB Finland. It allows monitoring multiple streams (even all of them) simultaneously, switching between them and rearraning and customizing the layout of the video panels in a more convenient and feature-rich way than the official website.

I like how they twisted Pandora's Box, I wish they would do that here in the States a few times. If anyone who hasn't seen the US version here is a full description of Pandora's Box for BBUSA:


Thanks. I had heard of the concept in the US version but not read a detailed description before. Since Pandora's Box in BBF is a small chest containing two letters, opened in the diary room, and the housemate who opens it may choose which way the consequences go - even though he or she isn't aware of what the consequences are at the time of making the hcoice - it is executed in a bit different way, but the fundamental idea remains the same. (Of course, the box has only been opened a single time this far. They could still change the way how it works.)


The housemates have been ordered on the sofas. The eviction show for this Sunday is going live in 10 minutes.

BB: "This is Big Brother. Ten minutes to live broadcast."

Oh, and Suvi is still required to wear the megaphone backpack and the microphone helmet. Earlier today, she was crying as the helmet ruins her hairdo. The other housematres were sure she would have been allowed to take it off by the live broadcast but apparently she isn't... and she's up for eviction herself, which makes it worse, as in the worst case, she will be evicted and may need to leave the house and enter the studio, possibly still wearing the backpack and the helmet!
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: OmgItsPhil on October 02, 2011, 07:47:52 PM
The eviction show is currently ongoing. The voting situations were revealed on Friday, and also during tonight's eviction show.



Friday 19:16pm - Annika, Sebastian, Minna, Suvi, Ben, Tanja

Friday 19:26pm - Sebastian, Annika, Ben, Suvi, Minna, Tanja



Sunday 21:05pm - Annika, Ben, Sebastian, Tanja, Minna, Suvi

Sunday 21:15pm - Annika, Sebastian, Ben, Suvi, Minna, Tanja

Sunday 21:21pm - Annika, Sebastian, Ben, Suvi, Minna, Tanja

Sunday 21:29pm - Annika, Sebastian, Tanja, Ben, Suvi, Minna

Sunday 21:36pm - Annika, Suvi, Ben, Minna, Tanja, Sebastian

Sunday 21:42pm - Sebastian, Ben, Annika, Suvi, Tanja, Minna

Sunday 21:51pm - Sebastian, Annika, Tanja, Minna, Ben, Suvi

Sunday 21:59pm -  Sebastian, Annika, Suvi, Ben, Ben, Tanja, Minna

Sunday 22:06pm - Sebastian, Annika, Ben, Tanja, Minna, Suvi

Sunday 22:13pm - Sebastian, Suvi, Tanja, Minna, Annika, Ben

Sunday 22:17pm - Annika, Ben, Sebastian, Suvi, Minna, Tanja

Sunday 22:22pm - Ben, Annika, Sebastian, Minna, Tanja, Suvi

Voting has closed.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 02, 2011, 07:59:04 PM
By the way, if youre a 24/7 subscriber, you can watch the BB shows - such as the eviction show and the BB Extra shows - live as they're broadcast on TV. (This can't be done in BBViewer. BBViewer only allows watching the TV shows later when they're over and archived. BBViewer, of course, also allows viewing the 24/7 live feeds from the house even during the eviction show when the housemates are sitting on the sofas, and you can also see the actual moment of eviction from inside the house, but not the studio segments when the evictee is being interviewed etc.)

In order to view the actual shows and studio segments live, you need to log in to the Katsomo BB page. Click on BB-ohjelmat ("BB Shows") > Kaikki ohjelmat ("All shows") > Big Brother Talk Show > NYT -alkanut 21.00 ("NOW - broadcast began at 21:00 (9 p.m.)") The same principle also applies to the other BB shows if you want to watch them live as they're broadcast.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: OmgItsPhil on October 02, 2011, 08:32:01 PM
Minna has been evicted.

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Results -
- Ben - 17.74%
- Annika - 17.67%
- Sebastian - 16.92%
- Suvi - 16.07%
- Tanja - 15.69%
- Minna - 15.62%
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: World of BB on October 02, 2011, 09:00:23 PM
The first time this year that the person I wanted to be evicted was evicted. Interesting that everyone thought Sebastian was safe, but ended up being only 1.3% away from eviction.

That must be one of the closed votes in Big Brother history with just 2.12% separating 1st from 6th.

15.62% is the highest percentage ever in a 6 way vote to save (beating Chantel in BB5 Netherlands with 14%).

0.07% difference between Minna and Tanja is in the top 5 closest votes ever.

However, once again, they still can't work out the percentages correctly as they only add up to 99.71%.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: OmgItsPhil on October 02, 2011, 09:08:39 PM
However, once again, they still can't work out the percentages correctly as they only add up to 99.71%.

The producers will probably claim that the last 0.29% was for housemates not even nominated again. ::)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: World of BB on October 02, 2011, 09:14:39 PM
I didn't believe that explaination last week. I doubt that exactly 1.00% of the voters voted for people whos numbered where not published. Why would they even open up the phone lines for people who aren't nominated?

It wouldn't surprise me if last week they messed up with the counting and evicted the wrong person, and were then too embassared to admit to it.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on October 02, 2011, 09:42:51 PM
Yeah, well...there might be somethging fishy going on in the votecounts. Wouldn't really surprise me. Nevertheless, I think the only big flaw of this year is that they're still using the same strategy on voting to get as much money as they can. On the other hand I think, the right HMs have been evicted. Oskar, Tamer and Minna really didn't bring much anything to the house.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Jarskaaja on October 03, 2011, 12:13:47 AM
The reason for these close votes is because the producers keep showing the voting results before the vote ends. It's done to get as much money from televotes as possible. Whenever somebody is in last place on results, (s)he will immediately start receiving lots of plus votes from fans, gets bumped off the place and somebody else becomes last instead. This keeps happening until they stop showing the results and the evicted housemate is announced.

Sunday 22:13pm - Sebastian, Suvi, Tanja, Minna, Annika, Ben
Sunday 22:17pm - Annika, Ben, Sebastian, Suvi, Minna, Tanja

Look how Annika and Ben just received lots of plus votes for them between that commercial break. It's very manipulated and the production team only cares about the money.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 03, 2011, 12:06:04 PM
Weekly task: Heaven & Hell

The housemates have been temporarily ordered to the outdoor task area. It's raining. They have a light canopy for their protection, some garden chairs for sitting on, and a table with some picnic/breakfast food on it, including a couple of vacuum flasks containing coffee and tea. While they're being kept there - and unbeknownst to them, of course - one part of the house will be decorated as Heaven and another as Hell. They're suspecting something will happen inside the house, though, as the task area is mostly empty and there are no activities for them in there.

While waiting, the housemates have been called, one by one, to the diary room of the task area, to give their assessment of their fellow housemates, based on The Seven Deadly Sins (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_deadly_sins) (pride, envy, wrath, greed, gluttony, sloth, lust.) What they do not know yet is BB will later assign them to "Heaven" or "Hell" based on these assessments.


As for last night's eviction, my personal opiinion is it was time for Minna to go. She was just too quiet and passive, too dull and too afraid to state her opinion about anything other than completely trivial everyday things. The people responsible for casting her probably chose her primarily for the visual impairment aspect - believing that it would compensate for the lack of personality by causing interesting situations and conflicts in the house - but that was not  to be. She was revealed to be just a generic, dull, hangaround housemate. (Minna is a BB addict herself, though, so getting to experience the house from the inside was surely a nice experience for her, personally, anyway.)

It was also a good thing Tanja was saved. I really thought she would be the one to go out instead of Minna. Janica and Tanja have lately been getting closer to each other, making friends with one another. Since Janica has been a bit of a lone wolf in the house - not being too close to anyone - having Tanja still remain in the house was a good thing for her as well.

On the other hand, this eviction (just like Tamer's) was a bit dull... as it did not really rupture or warp the social fabric of the house in any noticeable way. The result will probably be fairly similar next time, too, should the next evictee be Terhi. But after that we'll hopefully finally start getting some interesting changes.

The thing that was surprising to me was Annika's strong support among the voting viewers. During the televote, she appeared to hold an even safer position than Sebastian. While Annika is very likable on first sight, she has lately showed her less flattering personal traits, best kept hidden. (Jealousy over Mikael, having hissy fits about other housemates behind their backs and calling them with ugly names over rather insignificant things, planning to steal cigarettes from Minna, etc.)

Tanja and Mikael have continued having some hostile exchanges over things Mikael has said (or possibly hasn't said) about Tanja. Tanja would like to be friends with Mikael but Mikael does not consider her worth putting any time and effort on and isn't interested in making up. Tanja feels Mikael is currently acting in an arrogant, scornful way towards her as he's not really even wanting to settle their arguments.

Janica's and Veera's personal relationship has been a rather cold and distant after the party on Friday night. During that party, the drunken Janica and a bit more sober Salar ended up under the same duvet and there was some heavy petting (probably fingering) and other things going on. (Salar was lying on top of Janica, between her spread thighs, and Janica held onto him by wrapping her legs around him. They don't admit to having had sex, or even being naked, but at least there was some full-body contact hip rubbing and stimulating squirming going on. They were even being asked about the incident during the live eviction show by the hostesses of the show, Susanna and Elina.) By the following morning, Salar had moved to Veera's bed, and they might have had sex then. (Salar and Veera have denied that to the other housemates but they did have a private discussion about the possibility of pregnancy later on. Veera told Salar she has a medical condition of some sort and can't have babies so Salar shouldn't be worried.)

Edit: We just got a glimpse of the modified yard in the DC1 feed:

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That appears to be a path of coals leading from the house to the outdoor shower...
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 03, 2011, 05:49:08 PM
The residents of Hell are Sebastian, Annika, Mikael, Salar, Ben, Amanda and Tanja. They are supposed to suffer and feel ashamed for their sins and carry out the tasks assigned to them.

The residents of Hell live in the Whirlpool of Netherworld (the spare room, which is now specially decorated for the purpose). There's a gravel path (the gravel has sharp edges) which leads from the Netherworld to the Place of Harm (the shower in the yard, which is now always on, only dispenses cold water, is surrounded by a chicken wire cage, and has a dirt floor), which is for smoking. The residents of Hell aren't allowed to remain or walk in other places or rooms in the house. They also aren't allowed to use the indoor shower.

The residents of Hell need to pump the Device of Purgatory whenever Big Brother orders them to. Pumping the Device of Purgatory makes a red light bulb above it light up.

The residents of Hell are required to regularly oil up their bodies and smudge themselves with coal without needing to be specifically ordered to do so, and they need to wear the clothes assigned to them.

There's the Furnace (a high-powered heater) in the Whirlpool of Netherworld. The residents of Hell aren't supposed to touch or manipulate it.

The residents of Hell are only supposed to eat special food dispensed to them.

If the housemates are called to the sofas, the residents of Hell will gather on the Platform of Hades - a larger gravel area located by the gravel path, next to the sofas.

Big Brother: "This is Big Brother. Go to Hell."

(BB appears to have a deeper, more devilish voice in Hell  >:D)

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Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 03, 2011, 05:56:38 PM
The residents of Heaven are Suvi, Terhi, Veera, Stefan and Janica.

The residents of Heaven are required to enjoy their stay and carry out the tasks assigned to them.

The residents of Heaven have the entire house at their disposal, except for the Whirlpool of Netherworld (the spare room, which is used by the residents of Hell) and the gravel path leading from there to the outdoor shower in the yard .

The residents of Heaven can rest heavenly. Big Brother will give further information about this later. They have hot water available to them at all times. They will dine like in Paradise: luxuriously and abundantly. They are required to wear clothes provided to them (white togas of some sort.) Big Brother will listen to and consider the wishes of the residents of Heaven.

The bedroom of the residents of Heaven appears to be decorated all over with white gauze. Looks very fluffy and heavenly and romantic. They also found a fruit basket and a couple of bottles of wine in there, courtesy of Big Brother.

(http://i55.tinypic.com/adkmyg.jpg)

(http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/7715/bbf2011d35p0005.jpg)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 03, 2011, 07:34:06 PM
Residents of hell (those who smoke) going for a smoke:

(http://i.imgur.com/QNOMt.jpg)

(http://i55.tinypic.com/rlc7j7.jpg)

The shower in the smoking cage sprinkles cold water on them all the time. They're standing in a foot-deep pool of mud.

They also got a pot of foul tasting soup/porridge with a wooden spoon for each. (No personal plates, they need to eat straight from the pot.)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 03, 2011, 07:52:38 PM
Meanwhile in Heaven:

(http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/6753/bbf2011d35p0006.th.jpg) (http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/6753/bbf2011d35p0006.jpg) (http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/7411/bbf2011d35p0007.th.jpg) (http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/7411/bbf2011d35p0007.jpg)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: World of BB on October 03, 2011, 08:23:24 PM
Every time I put the feed on Tanja is crying. What's wrong with her, is she just a big baby and is crying because she is in hell or has something else happened?
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: World of BB on October 03, 2011, 08:30:22 PM
The reason for these close votes is because the producers keep showing the voting results before the vote ends. It's done to get as much money from televotes as possible. Whenever somebody is in last place on results, (s)he will immediately start receiving lots of plus votes from fans, gets bumped off the place and somebody else becomes last instead. This keeps happening until they stop showing the results and the evicted housemate is announced.

Sunday 22:13pm - Sebastian, Suvi, Tanja, Minna, Annika, Ben
Sunday 22:17pm - Annika, Ben, Sebastian, Suvi, Minna, Tanja

Look how Annika and Ben just received lots of plus votes for them between that commercial break. It's very manipulated and the production team only cares about the money.

Welcome to the forum Jarskaaja!
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Jarskaaja on October 03, 2011, 08:46:52 PM
Thanks, I saw you wondering about the voting results and that's when I had to comment.

The eviction show here is really terrible, they waste a lot of time showing voting results and clips from the week instead of showing what happened in the house on Saturday. I think they showed under 10 minutes of Saturday last time. :(

Apart from that, this is the best season of BB we've had in a while.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 03, 2011, 09:03:46 PM
Every time I put the feed on Tanja is crying. What's wrong with her, is she just a big baby and is crying because she is in hell or has something else happened?


Last week, when the housemates were on a "trailer holiday" (their weekly task), they had a party in one of their virtual "destinations". They were allowed to leave the outdoor task area for the duration of the party and use their regular yard, the jacuzzi, the sauna, and the outdoor shower. (The entrance to the house was blocked with a rolling steel gate like those used to protect storefronts from vandalism, so they couldn't enter the house as they were still on a "holiday", and had to return to the task area and continue their road trip after the party.)

During the party, Tanja took outdoor shower naked while the rest of the housemates were sitting on the deck chairs in the upper patio or soaking in the jacuzzi, or sweating in sauna, or smoking under the smoking canopy. Both Salar (who was in the jacuzzi with Mikael and Janica) and Ben (who was in the sauna with Amanda and Veera) commented something nasty about her looks. I think what Salar said was something like "that sight will make a man lose his erections for the next thousand years".

Mikael was then actually trying to hush Salar up, but Janica overheard the comment and thought they both were joking about Tanja's looks. Janica scolded the two guys and said that if you're going to say things like that, or if you're having opinions like that, better keep them to yourself or only say them while she's not in listening range because she for sure doesn't want to hear about them.

Later on, Janica told Tanja what had been said in the jacuzzi and Tanja got offended. She said she doesn't mind if someone cracks a joke about her body in front of her as she knows it's not perfect, and she might even do that herself from time to time, but yes, it does make her feel a bit bad if someone is making such comments behind her back. The way Janica told the story gave the impression that it was Mikael who was joking about Tanja's body, not Salar.

Tanja has been trying to resolve the matter with Mikael both on Friday (when the weekly task was over and they had another party) and on Sunday (before the live eviction show), but Mikael apparently got offended about the way how Tanja is putting the blame on him and is feeling awkward about the prospect of snitching about Salar, and Mikael doesn't really like Tanja anyway (he despises of her rambling speaking style and thinks she's trying to behave in a "too intelligent" and pretentious way) so they haven't really gotten anywhere with the matter and Tanja thinks he's a prick for not wanting to talk things through.

Now, on this Monday, Tanja got assigned to the group of housemates who live in "Hell" where she does not have any of her friends (Janica, Suvi, maybe Terhi) with her... except maybe Sebastian who is in the neutral zone with regards to her. She was also expected to strip half-naked in front of Mikael again (who she thinks was the one who commented on her looks) so she was feeling quite pissed off, awkward, and insecure at the same time. And Salar, Ben, and Amanda (the housemates who dislike her as well and who have actually made nasty comments about her looks) are residents of Hell as well. What is more, she was quite prepared to go home in the last eviction, and thinks she will be evicted next anyway, so the weekly task which requires her to rot in "Hell" semi-naked with people who dislike her and her looks feels anguishing and a bit pointless.

She also didn't want to wear the bikinis provided by BB without wearing her own bra under them. At first, the other housemates were of the opinion she can't keep the bra on as they shouldn't wear anything not provided by BB but apparently she's now allowed to do that as she's still wearing it.

She's not crying at the moment, though, and seems to have recovered and gotten in a better mood again.

A couple of pictures from Hell (Tanja does not feature in these. Annika was feeling dizzy after pumping the Device of Purgatory for a while and had to sit down on the floor and keep her head down between her knees for a moment... these pictures were taken some time after that incident, when she was already beginning to feel better):

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Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: World of BB on October 03, 2011, 09:14:57 PM
Thanks for the explaination.

It's very hypocritical for Salar to say that about Tanja, given that he himself is overweight, not good looking and doesn't have the guts to shower naked.

The more I hear about him the more I want him to be evicted. I don't get why such a nasty man is so popular inside the house (he didn't get a single nomination point last week) and also popular with the public.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 03, 2011, 11:19:15 PM
It's very hypocritical for Salar to say that about Tanja, given that he himself is overweight, not good looking and doesn't have the guts to shower naked.

Salar often does not have any filter on what he says - especially when he's in his "bully mode". When the other housemates complain about what he just said, he's usually going "Peace man! It's only a joke. Can't you take jokes!" Several housemates have commented it's hard to read him and you can never quite tell if the things he's saying are for real or not.

About Salar's attractiveness... well, the viewers writing on BB fan sites and forums have been wondering about that. He has had encounters of sexual nature with Janica, Suvi, and now Veera. Then again, Mikael is "taken" by Annika (who is very jealous of him), Ben is "taken" by Amanda (and he already made a bad move when he was being entertained by the "harem girls" so he probably does not want to risk anything now), Sebastian abstains from doing anything sexual until marriage, and Stefan is... huge and hairy.

That leaves only Salar to attend to the needs of the single women in the house... however desperate they're getting as weeks go by, or whatever lapses of self-control they might have during parties. And even though Salar might spend time with one of the girls more than the others at times, he has explained on numerous occasions he will never want to have a proper relationship or commit to anyone. (According to what he has said in the house, he simply does not believe in relationships, he's happy with one-night stands.)

I'm not quite sure where Veera stands in this. Since she entered the house later into the season she must be aware of Salar's then-current popularity, or of his scheming tactics. (Actually, when Tamer was evicted, Salar and Ben immediately recruited Veera in their alliance to replace him.) Maybe she's only trying to keep Salar happy and on her side... but at what price? She has said things that would make one believe she might have feelings for Salar... but getting real, I can't buy it.

And as as male, it's a bit hard for me to understand why anyone in the house would let the chubby, boyish Salar touch them, but maybe your views will change when you've lived in the house for a while with no other social contacts... or maybe some people just have a strong enough libido or regular enough needs and habits to overcome any possible aversion... basically just settling for the options available to them. (As they say, in the dark, they all look the same. Maybe it works for males as well...)

The more I hear about him the more I want him to be evicted. I don't get why such a nasty man is so popular inside the house (he didn't get a single nomination point last week) and also popular with the public.

In my opinion, Salar often actively tries to manipulate situations to the effect of getting more camera time. This often leads to some funny action but sometimes it's a bit forced.

Inside the house, Salar is apparently seen as a little rascal who says and does funny, unexpected things and brings some showmanship and action to the house. That's one side of him, of course, but the housemates who do not belong to his alliance do not know about his darker, scheming side, and they do not get to hear the spiteful comments he says about the housemates the alliance is trying to vote out. And since the bulk of televoters only watch the dailies and not 24/7, their view on Salar is similar to the housemates... or depends solely on how much scheming the editor decides to include in the dailies, which has apparently not been much this far... or at least not in the beginning of the season where he was mostly presented in positive light.

I don't think Salar has any chance of winning but since he's such a central and active character - evoking both positive and negative feelings in the viewers - it's likely the producers will want to do everything in their power (showing manipulative intermediate results during televoting, putting 6 people up for eviction instead of the usual four if he's in danger of being voted out, etc.) to keep him in the house until the last moments of the season... maybe even up until the final week, or perhaps "allowing" him to be evicted a week or two before that.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 04, 2011, 01:35:35 AM
2:25 a.m.

Turns out the pleasures in Heaven (jacuzzi, sauna, music) are powered by the pain, suffering, and hard labor in Hell. For example, without two residents of Hell constantly pumping the Device of Purgatory, the residents of Heaven do not get any music.

Winning the weekly task requires that the residents of Hell suffer and feel ashamed of their sins and the residents of Heaven enjoy themselves. If the housemates do not stay true to their assigned roles, they will fail the task.

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There has been a party going on in Heaven for some hours already. Terhi and Veera come back from a visit to the diary room. They tell the other residents of Heaven they've ordered some more music but if something now happens to the residents of Hell, they are required not to display anything but their delight and enjoyment.

At the same time in Hell, Sebastian comes out of the diary room (where he was called by the Devil himself) and wakes up all the residents. Ben and Tanja are currently pumping the Device of Purgatory but all the other residents of Hell (Annika, Amanda, Salar, and Mikael) were sleeping. They need to get up, go down on their knees - Sebastian included - and move crawling on all fours to the Platform of Hades using the gravel path. (The Platform of Hades is the larger gravel area set up in the living room between the sofas and the diary room door.)

The residents of Hell open the door to the Heaven (kitchen area) and start crawling on their gravel path, on all fours, towards their destination. The residents of Heaven are following the residents of Hell with their eyes, trying to look like they're enjoying the show, although you can pretty much see from their eyes and gestures they do not.

Sharp pieces of gravel are hurting the knees and the toes of the residents of Hell. Especially Annika, who was sleeping at the time they were ordered to crawl out of Hell, looks quite distressed. She starts crying silently. Once the residents of Hell arrive at the Platform, still on all fours, Veera tells them they need to move outside using the gravel path (they can walk now), stop in front of the jacuzzi, and do squats while the music is playing.

The residents of Heaven move to the jacuzzi while the residents of Hell are walking down the gravel path. Annika is sobbing. She has scratches on her knees and finds it difficult to walk. It's cold outside and they do not have proper clothes, only bikinis and boxers covering their oiled-up and coal-smudged bodies. Salar is helping Annika to remain standing and walks her towards their target.

Meanwhile, the residents of Heaven are trying to enjoy themselves in the jacuzzi. The music starts playing and the residents of Hell are doing the squats. Finally, the music stops and the residents of Hell are allowed to leave the cold yard and go back to their hellhole to get some sleep. Two of them can't sleep as they still need to pump the Device of Purgatory. The residents of Heaven remain in the jacuzzi and discuss various things. Due to how the task was set up, they need to enjoy themselves and not discuss any unenjoyable things, such as the pain and suffering of the residents of Hell.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 04, 2011, 08:26:09 AM
The residents of Hell have woken up to a new morning. It's Ben's birthday. They got orders to sing a birthday song for him with Hellish lyrics. They're singing: "Your birthday sucks, Ben, have a miserable, rotten birthday, why don't you go and hang yourself." Or something to that effect.

Ben: "Thanks."

Salar: "You're welcome. No, wait, fuck you! Go to hell."

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A bit later, Tanja and Sebastian are contemplating giving Ben a massage as birthday present. (The oil they're required to rub on their skin in Hell has turned out to be massage oil.) "But he isn't supposed to enjoy it," Sebastian says. "We should massage him in a way that makes him suffer!"
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 04, 2011, 11:40:49 AM
Residents of Heaven have received massage chairs in the living room. Two residents of Hell need to pump the Device of Purgatory to keep them operational while the rest are summoned to the Platform of Hades to observe the massage. The residents of Heaven are enjoying Ben & Jerry's ice cream while being massaged. (This might be BB's jab at Ben whose birthday it is today.)

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There's a news article on the official BBF website about today's events. Apparently BB is going to show revealing video clips of Salar's doings with the women of the house to the residents of Heaven... especially Veera. (So they will get to see him fooling around with Janica.) I suppose this might happen during tonight's Big Brother Extra show which is broadcast at 7 p.m. Finnish time, but don't take my word for it.  Maybe they'll save it for later into the night. Another possible timeslot for dramatic events is after the daily which will be shown on TV at 10 p.m. But sometimes they will postpone dramatic events past midnight... you can never tell. We'll be wiser after today's BB Extra. (Finnish time (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=101) is UTC+3 at the moment. It will change to UTC+2 later when the daylight saving time is over.)

Many special events which happen during the week in the BB house take place during the live broadcast of the BB Extra show so those watching the 24/7 feeds may want to check out the timespan from 7 p.m. to 7:30 p.m. Finnish time each work day to catch them live.

If you want to watch the actual BB Extra show live as it is broadcast, you can do it on Katsomo.fi (http://www.katsomo.fi/bigbrother)... if you're a 24/7 subscriber. See this previous post (http://forum.worldofbigbrother.com/index.php?topic=547.msg24855#msg24855) for instructions. (Just choose "Big Brother Extra" instead of "Big Brother Talk Show".) After the live broadcast is over, the show will appear in the video archives (http://www.bigbrother.fi/videot.shtml/ohjelmat) where it is freely viewable via the official BBF website. ("Videot" = Video clips, "Ohjelmat" = Shows, "Valitse päivä" = Pick a day)

BB Extra is broadcast Mon-Fri at 7 p.m. Finnish time. It lasts half an hour and includes studio segments and interviews, with Elina Viitanen (http://www.sub.fi/bigbrother2010/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2010/juontajat_ja_logot/970635.jpg) hosting them. During the show, Elina also usually displays a brief glimpse of what is currently happening in the house - some special event is often scheduled to take place or start during BB Extra. (This is designed to serve as an appetizer for the viewers who have not yet subscribed to the 24/7 service.) The show also sometimes includes behind-the-scenes material of the preparation of the weekly tasks or glimpses to what will be happening next. After each eviction, the evictee will be interviewed on BB Extra the following day - usually Monday.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 04, 2011, 06:36:22 PM
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A video clip about Salar and Janica in bed and another clip about Salar and Suvi faking fellatio under a blanket were shown on the living room TV about 20 minutes ago (in relation to the timestamp of this post.) If you're a 24/7 subscriber and happen to read this post in about one and a half hour, you can still catch it by using BBViewer and its timeshifting option.

Veera was looking hurt and upset upon seeing the clip. It played two times and she then dashed outside for a smoke. Janica saw herself drunk in bed on the video clip for the first time. She only had a patchy recollection of that night and looked quite surprised... and maybe a little ashamed of herself.

In the smoking place, Terhi and Suvi are accompanying Veera who is trying to hold back tears, without quite succeeding in that. Since the residents of Heaven need to keep up the facade of happiness and enjoyment, she's saying they're tears of joy. She's also trying to say other cheerful things, and Terhi and Suvi are also commenting how it's been a fun night and they saw a nice movie evoking emotions.

Terhi (who had been awake on that night and seen the incident on the video with her own eyes and mentioned it before): "I told you all... and you didn't believe me."

Suvi and Terhi leave the smoking place. They feel they're all going to need something to drink now. The head to the diary room to ask BB to deliver them some beverages. Veera remains outside a while longer. She then gets up and starts walking towards the house. Halfway to the house, she stops for a while and sobs quietly for a moment. Then she goes in to the house and straight to the bathroom. Janica is still sitting on the sofa. She's been talking with Stefan about the things they saw on the video and explaining that they didn't go all the way with Salar even though Salar may have been touching her. She also says it doesn't really matter for her, but she thinks the incident is going to make things more difficult in the house for both her and the others, especially Veera, and she regrets that.

After a while, Janica goes to the bathroom and hugs Veera. She says she didn't mean to do the things on the video and she was so drunk she can't really remember anything. Veera says she knows, and she was in a quite similar situation herself earlier, during the week she entered the house and had to entertain Ben.

After leaving the bathroom Veera is still quite emotional. She wants Stefan to hug her and cries and sobs against his large chest, hidden from the view of the cameras. Janica is watching the scene from the sofa, Suvi and Terhi are still in the diary room. The residents of hell have been locked inside their place of torment so they don't see this scene either - except for Ben, who is currently serving the residents of Heaven in a devil costume.

Veera says to Janica she holds no grudges. She's just unsure of her feelings towards Salar right now. Janica explains she's not interested in Salar in that way. The only thing she has ever wanted from him is some closeness during their stay in the house. Janica has always said that if some new female housemate comes along and Salar starts showing interest in her, she'll back off. Veera says she knows that, they've discused it before. But she doesn't want to discuss this matter now in order not to ruin the weekly task. They're supposed to enjoy themselves while they're in Heaven.

Terhi and Suvi return from the diary room. They've ordered something to drink and all the residents of Heaven are now waiting for the delivery to arrive in the storage room.

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The residents of Hell get to see the video clips, too. Salar is a bit annoyed at BB showing them and tries to save as much as there is to save. He has already talked about the events to Veera last week but the video clips still had a noticeable impact on her. It's difficult to say whether Veera will continue sleeping in the same bed with Salar after the weekly task is over, but as of now, they don't need to, as Veera is a resident of Heaven and Salar is a resident of Hell.

Veera did not take the video clips lightly and she felt hurt by Salar fooling around with Janica, that much is clear. Tears were running down her cheeks also during the second showing of the clips. But she still needs to try and act like she was enjoying her stay in Heaven all the time. The residents of Heaven are going to spend another night enjoying themselves in the jacuzzi and in the sauna, and the residents of Hell need to do squats and pump the Device of Purgatory to keep all the good things in Heaven powered.

Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Brekkie on October 04, 2011, 07:54:05 PM
Love that the Finnish producers are pushing the tasks that little bit further this year and great to see a fresh interpretation of "heaven/hell".
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 04, 2011, 10:26:55 PM
I added some screen grabs in the above post.

Earlier today, there was an interesting discussion in Hell. Sebastian came clean on his view about Annika constantly saying bad things about Janica behind her back. It makes Sebastian feel awkward: he is friends with both women and he'd want to leave the room every time Annika starts going on about that.

The schism between the girls started early in the season. One of the things that makes their personal relationship tense and strained is Mikael: Janica feels Mikael changed his attitude towards her when he started spending all his time with Annika. They have become very distant and no longer get involved in the kind of friendly interaction that was going on during the first couple of weeks. This bothers Janica. Annika, on the other hand, is very jealous of Mikael which makes things even worse.

Another thing that Annika constantly keeps mentioning is that during the bee hive task, Janica was assigned the role of the Queen Bee, and she was acting it out in a very cruel way, giving nasty orders to her underlings for her personal delight and seemingly enjoying it. Sebastian believes this is just Janica playing the game to the fullest and taking the role-play tasks seriously, but Annika thinks Janica is genuinely enjoying when she can humiliate other housemates. Annika feels Janica has also behaved the same towards the residents of Hell now that she's living in Heaven. Some other residents of Hell agree with Annika and recall Janica was in the pool raising a toast towards them and winking her eye when they were walking down the path of sharp gravel stones last night when Annika was crying.

Sebastian tried to make Annika realize the Janica he knows is actually a nice and emphatic person. She just takes the role-play tasks seriously but they're not her true self. He also gave a fairly long pep talk, making a strong wish that Annika would need to try and talk to Janica so they could resolve their issues and get on as friends. It remains to be seen if Sebastian's efforts will have any effect on Annika. (Truth be told, the blame is not on Annika alone: Janica has some strange antipathy towards Annika as well and she has been talking behind Annika's back, too.)

Annika and Mikael are enjoying each others' company in Hell:

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(Aww... they haven't been allowed to take a shower for about 48 hours now... and as is the duty of the residents of Hell, they have been constantly applying and reapplying massage oil on their skin and smudging themselves with coal.)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 05, 2011, 02:35:28 AM
Sebastian and Annika have talked a bit more about Janica. (Earlier, they had a discussion in which Sebastian blamed Annika about constantly badmouthing Janica while she's not present and told her to discuss things through with Janica.)

Annika says she's not happy with the situation - really isn't - but she has found Janica distant. Janica hasn't really annoyed her other than during the beehive task and now when she's in Heaven, but Annika admits that if people talk about Janica, she might participate in the discussion and even continue it. Maybe she should tone down that a bit.

Annika tells she actually did have a couple of better days with Janica during the Copper Mine task. She was nice, then, but then just slipped away and became more distant again. Annika has not wanted to push her company to Janica if it's not wanted. And the only reason Janica has ever given to Annika which might have anything to do with this situation is that Janica was close to Mikael during the first week or so - before Mikael and Annika started spending time together. Annika doesn't have anything against Mikael spending some time with Janica, too, as long as it's not something couples would do.

Sebastian tells Annika he knows Annika does not enjoy it. He never claimed Annika would have been enjoying it.

Meanwhile, the people of Heaven got music, jacuzzi and sauna. Suvi and Janica weren't in party mood, but they danced and drank a bit nonetheless. Curiously, Big Brother assigned Ben to keep company to the residents of Heaven, costumed as the Devil. As the Devil, Ben was supposed to serve them in all ways - open doors for them, get their drinks for them, etc. At the same time he was executing a secret task where he needed to steal food from Heaven and bring it to Hell.

Later during the night, Ben the Devil started behaving in an odd way in Hell. He was patting and tapping the residents of Hell annoyingly with his pitchfork while they were trying to get some sleep and occasionally getting at their cigarette stash and ripping some their cigarettes in two pieces. He was also giving various orders to the residents of Hell. For example, Sebastian, who was trying to sleep in the dark hellhole they have, was ordered to stand up and Ben then let him go back lying down again. Then he needed to stand up again, and Ben let him go back to the floor again. He also appared to threaten Salar with the bucket of massage oil they have in Hell. The residents of Hell weren't quite sure if Ben was doing this because he was told to or if he had come up with some strange ideas himself. They also weren't sure if they were actually required to follow his orders or not. Finally, when everyone was sleeping, Ben was called to the diary room and came back without the devil's costume, lied down on the floor and started sleeping himself.

Some pictures:

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Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 05, 2011, 03:31:40 PM
Tonight (19:00 [url)http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=101]Finnish time[/url]) on BB Extra: during the broadcast, the viewers will get to see live video feed from the diary room where "a big secret" will be revealed to one of the housemates. (There are no further details available on what the secret might be. Maybe Mikael will now hear he's the one who won the immunity until the final week?)

24/7 subscribers can view the BB Extra show live over Internet as it is broadcast on TV. The live feed is avaiblable on Katsomo.fi website by following these instructions (http://forum.worldofbigbrother.com/index.php?topic=547.msg24975#msg24975).  (Since the archived BB Extra shows are also available for free viewing via the bigbrother.fi (http://www.bigbrother.fi/videot.shtml/ohjelmat/bbextra) website, maybe you can watch the live broadcast for free there as well... I'm not sure about that, I've only ever tried watching the live shows over the Internet by logging in to Katsomo.fi. At least the show will appear on the free site later today after it has been broadcast.)

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The residents of Hell have been shown a diary room video clip where Janica holds Annika responsible for the sin of Envy (as per their weekly task, which started with everyone assigning the seven deadly sins to suitable fellow housemates.) Her grounds for naming Annika as the one with the sin of Envy was related to how Annika had been jealous of Mikael.

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Sebastian has had a talk with Janica about whether she feels sympathy towards the less fortunate housemates in midst of a role-playing task or not.. since Janica has been blamed by some housemates of being a bit too happy and enjoying herself a bit too much about the privileges the residents of Heaven have: even jeering at the residents of Hell, if not in words, by using gestures and facial expressions. Janica didn't want to answer the question now that the task is still ongoing but Sebastian wants to hear her answer later.

Some half an hour ago, the residents of Hell were taking a nap when they were woken up by the residents of Heaven and called to the Platform of Hades (using their gravel path, of course). Suvi had been instructed to order Amanda (who had the sin of Sloth) to clean up the entire house: do the dishes, vacuum the floor, wash the mirrors, wipe the tables, arrange things and furniture in their place, everything. When they were going to get some cleaning supplies, the storage room door opened and the residents of Heaven also got a basket full of alcoholic drinks and snacks which they may enjoy while watching Amanda's cleaning.

Amanda is only wearing bikinis and she's oiled up from head to toes with massage oil and smudged with coal, as is the fate and duty of the residents of Hell. Just like all the other residents of Hell, she hasn't taken a shower since Monday morning.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 05, 2011, 05:15:09 PM
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Sebastian is called to the Hell's diary room. The residents of Hell can hear him shouting through the doors. He soon comes back with a large tray full of hamburgers and salads. Sebastian, who is accused of the sin of Gluttony, has to serve the abundant number of burgers to the residents of Heaven. He, or anyone else in Hell, can't have any for himself. There are several Hesburger Megaburgers (http://www.hesburger.com/food/hamburgers/megaburger) on the tray as well, Sebastian's favorite type of burger (This must be BB's personal jab at Sebastian, since he's been dreaming of getting some of those in the house earlier.) Now he can only smell them, not eat. The other residents of Hell are not pleased, either. Especially Annika thinks this is... well... pure hell! Ben looks like a hurt puppy, just on the brink of breaking in tears.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 05, 2011, 05:27:46 PM
Sebastian was just told a secret in the diary room, during the live BB Extra broadcast: the weekly task, Heaven & Hell, will continue throughout the weekend to the next week. He can't reveal this to anyone. (It seems this diary room visit was shown on DC2 in the live feeds as well.)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: World of BB on October 05, 2011, 07:14:55 PM
Sebastian was just told a secret in the diary room, during the live BB Extra broadcast: the weekly task, Heaven & Hell, will continue throughout the weekend to the next week. He can't reveal this to anyone. (It seems this diary room visit was shown on DC2 in the live feeds as well.)

Not very happy with this secret, whilst this has been a good task, they will ruin it by dragging it out too long. There have been too many 24/7 tasks this year. What is needed is for a few weeks where they can just live normally in the house. They only need 2 or 3 tasks per season that disrupt life in the house 24/7 - not one every week.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 05, 2011, 08:37:26 PM
Not very happy with this secret, whilst this has been a good task, they will ruin it by dragging it out too long. There have been too many 24/7 tasks this year. What is needed is for a few weeks where they can just live normally in the house. They only need 2 or 3 tasks per season that disrupt life in the house 24/7 - not one every week.


I agree with all that. I would hope for some "normalcy" (whatever that means in this context) to the house for a change. I'd like a task which would only take 6 to 8 hours per day and didn't require them to stay awake all night or guard anything, or work in shifts, and wasn't based on forced inequality but rather on cooperation among all housemates. Something where everyone works for a common goal during the day and can then relax a bit and socialize on their "free time" at evenings/nights without needing to think about the task all the time. There could be separate daily evening tasks (something light and fun that doesn't take too long and isn't too exhausting mentally or physically) during the week to break the dullness, of course.

You said you didn't watch BBF5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOVgTx9tzlI) (see here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_QZdC9Nsts) and here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOuAkN-fBh0), too... and click on the "CC" button for English subtitles) or BBF6 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJdDodFdK64). Those seasons weren't nearly as harsh, twisted, or "demanding" as this one, in my opinion, and they had more parties which were just parties for the sake of having a party... with music and all! (Which BB seems to use sparingly this season.) Then again, many BB fans thought many of the tasks weren't too interesting in BBF5 and BBF6, and many of the housemates back in those seasons were maybe a bit too young and airheaded happy-go-lucky types to begin with. But the general mood was definitely lighter and more positive than what we've seen this season... so far.

BBF6 included a couple of housemates from the earlier seasons as intruders and one of them even won the whole thing, which was a bit of a downer. When those old housemates entered the house it kind of changed the setup for the whole season and made it disfavorable for the original housemates. BBF6 also featured as many as three stupid "disappearances" of the original housemates: two were forcibly ejected because of a breach of rules and one took the 24 hours option and quit.

Then again, I quite liked the latter part of that season. There were two great female housemates in BBF6, Elisabet and Marika (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vy_0pBDrMiI), - the redheads of the house - who were both "living on the moment" kind of people: sincere with their feelings and reactions, with no penchant for scheming or playing games. They both started getting more visibility and growing in importance somewhere around the midpoint of the season. (Here's a bit more of Elisabet (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c3OZq5ghd8). What's a little freezing sleet shower to a true Michael Jackson fan (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cS_ZB-OQXHA)? Nothing, I guess.) There was also a great exchange week with Celebrity Big Brother Slovenia where the Finnish housemates needed to lie about Finland to the Slovene exchange housemate, Sandra, all the time. (They invented alternative history and culture for the country, came up with false legends and ridiculous strange customs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItWgbX_of4c#t=2m55s) which they needed to follow through and perform themselves the entire week, etc.... and the poor exchange housemate bought it all. At the end of the week, she was very shocked and disappointed to find out the strange fake "Finland" she had believed in and taught about and lived in didn't really exist... Fortunately, she soon recovered from the initial disappointment about the mindfuck she had been subjected to and could then laugh about the whole thing.)

The exchange week in BBF5 was pretty nice as well. There are a lot of video clips of that on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/user/mikaoonake#g/u
http://www.youtube.com/user/kitek09#g/u
http://www.youtube.com/user/The1Finland1#g/u

(I mean the clips which have "Cathy" in their title. Cathy is the name of the Filipino exchange housemate who visited the BBF5 house. You may want to press the "Load more" button a couple of times to see all the clips. Or try the "Date added" link to change the ordering of the clips so that they will appear in chronological order and maybe show up sooner on the list. Actually, there's enough material on Youtube about this exchange you can pretty much watch it in its entirety, from the beginning when she enters the house via the Talk Show studio to the end when she leaves the house. And the clips are numbered in chronological order, too.)


This season, it has been a bit hard to pick a true favorite among the housemates. Scheming - which they allowed from the get-go for the first time ever - and the surprising number of couples that have formed have strained the personal relationships and social dynamics between the housemates in a way that maybe wasn't present in earlier seasons... but I think the atmosphere is still far better than in BBF4 where it was really tense at times.

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As for the current events in the BBF house, the residents of Heaven were ordered to go outside in the yard. Meanwhile, the residents of Hell were allowed to take a shower and change into clean bikinis/boxers, but they then needed to paint themselves with black body paint. (Or is that liquid latex?) Currently, there's a SingStar karaoke party going on. The residents of Hell need to hold up the microphone for the residents of Heaven who are singing. (Or "singing".)

One of the more popular choices for a karaoke song among the housemates appears to be Jenni Vartiainen's "Ihmisten edessä (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKidLh1Ryq4)" ("In Front of People"). Another favorite of the housemates is "Häissä (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZ5PUSgFF6g)" ("In the Wedding") by Jare & VilleGalle. One of the songs played is "Sama nainen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21d0935Wp7U)" ("The Same Woman") by Chisu.

Edit: Salar, who has been pumping the Device of Purgatory so that the residents of Heaven can have their karaoke party, is apparently not feeling too well: he was about to faint. He is in the diary room now.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 05, 2011, 09:49:15 PM
Salar came back from the diary room, he's apparently in a good enough condition to join the other residents of Hell again. Or maybe not:

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"Angelic" Janica has been drinking all night and she's totally plastered. She can't even recall the instructions she got in the diary room regarding the karaoke party. The other housemates are trying to suggest she might want to go to sleep, but she doesn't want to. She's still in a good mood, though.

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Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 06, 2011, 03:13:33 AM
Nightly drama:

Stefan and Veera are singing karaoke in the living room. This means Tanja (from Hell) has to act as their microphone stand and two residents of hell (Mikael and Salar) must pump the Device of Purgatory.

Terhi and Janica emerge from the diary room. As they come out and put their microphones on, Terhi has an embarrassed, uneasy smile on her face. She mutters she's never going to go there again or make a wish about anything anymore.

Turns out Terhi and Janica had been trying to get some sleep in the bedroom. But since Stefan and Veera were singing karaoke in the living room, they weren't able to, because of the noise. So they went to the diary room and made a wish on getting some "angelic" background music in the bedroom, to mask the noise - similar to what BB had played in the Heavenly bedroom before. Or if they can't get that, they'd like to have earplugs at least.

BB granted the residents of Heaven their wish. The price for this, however, was that they were ordered to choose two residents of Hell to walk the gravel path end to end, all the way from the Gate of Hell (spare room door) to the Place of Harm (smoking cage in the yard) and back, until further notice from BB.

Janica picked Salar and Annika for this task.

So... Terhi and Janica went to the Gate of Hell and summoned Mikael, who was told he needs to wake up Annika and Salar.

Annika didn't take this in a good way. Janica had been tormenting and humiliating her in a similar way in the past, during the "Bee Hive" weekly task when Janica was in the role of the Queen Bee and when she was allowed to give orders to the other housemates for her own entertainment.

Annika: "What the fuck is wrong with that woman?"

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Annika did one round with Salar, walking all the way to the Place of Harm and back. She then started crying from the pain in her feet, the coldness outside, frustration, and humiliation, but she still turned back and began walking the second round. It was clearly difficult for her and she was sobbing. Veera (who is a resident of Heaven and shouldn't mingle with residents of Hell or pay attention to their suffering) came to accompany her and opened the patio door for her, even followed her to the patio.

Halfway to the Place of Harm, Mikael turned up and told Annika that Salar had already given up. Mikael then tried to lift Annika on his arms and carry her back to Hell so she wouldn't need to walk on the gravel path any longer, but Annika resisted; she didn't want the weekly task to fail because of her. Mikael stopped her anyway and told it doesn't matter now, he and Sebastian will take Salar's and Annika's place. Veera gave Annika a long hug and put her coat on her. She said she's probably going to get a punishment from this - for helping or consoling the residents of Hell and giving them non-approved clothing - but she doesn't care anymore. If they've failed the task they've failed it and there's nothing they can do about it.

After Annika had returned inside the house, the residents of Heaven noted that Mikael and Sebastian doing the walk is probably not going to cut it as they weren't the housemates who were originally ordered to do the task. The guys don't care: they're adamant they're going to do it anyway on behalf of Salar and Annika.

After a while, Stefan returns from the diary room and announces that the party is over. Mikael, Sebastian and Tanja can all go to Hell (to get some sleep). Stefan and Veera must pour all unfinished drinks to the kitchen sink and take the unopened bottles and cans to the storage room.

After all residents of Hell are back in there, they have a lively discussion on personal limits and how there's a line for each person they can't cross. This was too much, there's no sense in doing something like this. Tanja explained the chain reaction of events to all of them and confirmed it was Janica who chose Annika and Salar for the task. Annika is sad because she could have continued a while longer but was stopped. Mikael said he couldn't bear to watch it any longer, and Salar had already quit doing it. Salar says if there's someone to blame it's himself because he just couldn't do it.

Meanwhile in Heaven, Veera and Stefan are having a similar discussion. Stefan tells he went to the diary room to pull the emergency brake. The train was moving too fast for them. The weekly task will go on nonetheless. Veera is crying a bit and says she may have ruined it for them already by taking Annika off the gravel track and giving her the coat. She even hugged her for a long time even though she was not supposed to do such thing as a resident of Heaven. She believes she's going to be evicted next as everyone will blame her for it.

Eventually, everyone goes to sleep. But it's quite clear Janica didn't earn any good will for herself by making the choice she made (if it's true she could have chosen anyone but deliberately went for Annika and Salar, the two housemates who were the least likely to be up for the challenge and when everyone knows she doesn't particularly like Annika) and it can be said with almost 100% certainty she will be one of the nominees in the next eviction.

Edit: I added some links to video clips in a previous post (http://forum.worldofbigbrother.com/index.php?topic=547.msg25088#msg25088).
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 06, 2011, 09:05:24 PM
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Mikael, Annika and Tanja have been assigned a secret task. They got hamburgers in Hell's diary room and they now need to walk down the gravel path from end to end, back and forth, and feign suffering to all the other housemates.

The other housemates - both in Heaven and Hell - have been asking them why they're doing that. They think it's a punishment of some sort. There is increasing talk in the house about deliberately failing the task. The viewers have been informed that if the housemates actually try to abort the weekly task early, those in breach of the house rules will be threatened with forced eviction.

Janica has been feeling down all day. She thinks everyone in Hell hates her and they're going to nominate her and she'll be evicted on Sunday unless she wins the lifeline competition (a form of Power of Veto). Sebastian has given her a serious talk about lack of (displaying) empathy and Terhi has also criticized her decision yesterday when she chose Annika and Salar for walking down the gravel path in the middle of the night while she knew they were the weakest housemates for that task and most likely to fail in it.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 06, 2011, 10:55:59 PM
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During the weekly task, Residents of Hell have been ordered to do various other tasks than just pumping the Device of Purgatory or walking or crawling the gravel path. For example, Big Brother has required them to count a bowl of peas... and then recount them... and recount them again... endlessly. A couple of days into the task they also got a microwave oven which they have only been allowed to use for warming up microwave snacks for the residents of Heaven (so they get to see and smell them) while their own dishes have been either something disgusting (food spoiled with strange spices) or very basic (cabbage heads, carrots, tasteless porridge with no sugar or salt, blood pancakes, etc.)

Now, they were warming up microwave dishes again - small savory pies for the residents of Heaven - and had a basket full of them when Mikael suddenly told them to stop, close the door and remain silent. He then announced the residents of Hell that himself, Annika and Tanja had been carrying out a secret task today where they were required to feign suffering while strolling the coarse gravel path. And now all the residents of Hell are included in another secret task: they begin getting conveniences in Hell but they aren't allowed to reveal anything about this to the residents of Heaven. They no longer need to count the peas. They no longer need to pump the Device of Purgatory, except for when the door is open and the residents of Heaven can see them. And last but not least, they can eat the pies they just warmed up themselves.

The residents of Hell rejoice and start eagerly eating the pies. Especially Sebastian, Ben and Salar are thrilled to get some proper food first time in several days.

Tanja's, Mikael's and Annika's secret task will still continue, but they need to take it easier for a while now. Mikael reminds all the residents of Hell to keep their mouth shut about everything he has said and hide everything they will get from plain view so the residents of Heaven will remain in the belief they're still having horrible conditions in Hell.

Mikael explains they will get things such as food, soda and blankets. They can also take showers and get hot water in the shower. The residents of Hell are slowly figuring out the task will probably continue further than just tomorrow. But even if it will, it's not going to bother them any longer... if they're only going to get these things at their disposal.

Mikael: "The tables have now turned."
Amanda (smiling, referring to the residents of Heaven): "Yeah. It's no longer us who are suffering, it's them."
Mikael: "They're now in Hell."

(During the night, the residents of Heaven have been increasingly worried about the residents of Hell and the harsh conditions they need to endure. Veera has cried a bit in compassion - even though they should only think about enjoyable things - and Suvi has also been quite serious.)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on October 06, 2011, 11:35:52 PM
It's quite possible the HellMates will also get alcohol at some point, if they succeed to bluff the HeavenMates long enough. This would go in par with BB making these secret tasks increasingly more difficult.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 07, 2011, 09:21:59 AM
The residents of Hell have visited the diary room one by one, to give their nomination points.

This season is only halfway through but BB blogger Telo Paloniemi, who has connections to the Finnish Big Brother production, has been dropping some subtle hints (http://blogit.iltalehti.fi/bigbrother/2011/10/06/karsi-sebastian-kuolihan-se-jeesuskin/) we are about to see "something never before seen or experienced on Finnish BB" in the final week.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 07, 2011, 02:08:28 PM
The residents of Hell, who now have a secret task (as described in the earlier posts), have continued feigning suffering in front of the residents of Heaven. Their weapon of choice has been humiliating punishments devised by themselves. For example, they planned and executed a show where Annika was supposedly required to walk to the outdoor smoking cage and stand directly under the permanently running cold shower while four other housemates take turns and smoke. Annika was acting well, it looked like she really was in agony. The residents of Heaven watched this all with very serious faces. Suvi was crying a bit. Stefan tossed his crutches on the floor (he has a strained ankle and has seen a physician), walked to the bedroom so he doesn't need to watch, pulled the beanie hat on his eyes, and breathed heavily.

As the residents of Hell got back into their room and closed the doors, they were all laughing and congratulating each other.

Another show they did a bit later was Mikael and Ben coming out of Hell and rolling sideways on the gravel path. Again, the residents of Heaven were watching this with very serious faces. Veera began weeping. Suvi and Terhi said it's too much for them, they can't bear to watch it any longer. They're shouting if the residents of Hell aren't going to abort the weekly task, they're going to go to the diary room and do it themselves.

The housemates up for eviction this week are Stefan, Terhi, Tanja, Janica and Annika. They're currently doing the lifeline competition where they're required to dance to music for a certain time while wearing a pedometer on their belt. The nominee who gets the highest step count will be the winner.

Edit: Terhi won. She can now exchange either herself or another nominee to a housemate who originally wasn't up for eviction.

There were technical problems during Annika's performance. She accidentally reset the step counter while trying to readjust the position of the pedometer on her belt while dancing (it was about to fall off.) Annika got another try. Alas, the counter was reset this time, too - apparently because the reset button touched her body when she was shaking her hips vigorously. Annika is a bit disappointed since she danced well.

Edit #2: Terhi saved herself and exchanged Amanda in her place. The housemates up for eviction this week are Stefan, Amanda, Tanja, Janica and Annika.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 07, 2011, 11:34:19 PM
Residents of Hell have done another dramatic performance where they made the residents of Heaven believe Mikael would have been out of the BB house for almost two hours because he supposedly required medical attention due to the harsh conditions in Hell (sleep deprivation, lack of edible food, exhaustion). They also performed a dramatic argument in front of the residents of Heaven where some of the residents of Hell were supporting aborting the task and the others were against that and supported carrying on with the task. There was lots of shouting back and forth and then they all went back to Hell, closing the door behind them and leaving the residents of Heaven to discuss the tense situation.

In reality, Mikael hid in the corner of the spare room where you can't see him directly from the doorway to Hell and it was all an act. Some time later Mikael "returned" to the house, supposedly via Hell's private diary room, and with an adhesive bandage on his arm... He acted as if he had received some medical attention but couldn't talk about what had happened. The residents of Heaven bought it all.

Behind the closed doors, residents of Hell have received hamburgers and pizza from Big Brother as a reward for their various little performances throughout the day. They also got pillows and duvets for the night, again.

Viewers have been informed that if a resident of Hell will be evicted on Sunday (Amanda, Annika and Tanja are all up for eviction from Hell, Janica and Stefan from Heaven) they have to leave the house in their Hellish looks: wearing only bikinis and messy, black bodypaint.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 08, 2011, 10:48:03 AM
Residents of Hell woke up to a new morning with Venom's "Straight to Hell (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29NT5lGz8l4)". They also received a breakfast basket in the diary room. (Proper breakfast, as they're now all carrying out a secret task and no longer suffering for real.)

Residents of Heaven got Eric Clapton's "Tears in Heaven (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxPj3GAYYZ0)".

Residents of Hell lied to Residents of Heaven that Sebastian - who was accused of the Sin of Gluttony - is no longer allowed to eat.

Pandora's Box will be opened the second time in this season today. The viewers have not yet been told when, exactly. Last time this happened at about 18:00 (6 p.m.) Finnish time.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on October 08, 2011, 12:59:04 PM
The options of Pandora's Box today:

Good for oneself / bad for everyone else

The winning HM will choose one HM to join him/her to enjoy a movie of their choice. They will also have a delicious catering. And of course the two will spend their night inside.

Meanwhile all other HMs will spend their night standing on the patio/terrace wearing cardboard boxes. Additionally they will have to throw a ball, that gives electric shocks randomly, all night long.

Bad for oneself / good for everyone else

The first option reversed. Ie. the winner with their choice of company will spend the night outside throwing the ball. And everyone else will get the movie night.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 08, 2011, 06:06:50 PM
Pandora's Box was opened by Annika. She chose the "Bad for oneself / good for everyone else" option. She also had to choose someone to throw the electrically shocking ball with her. Sebastian was her choice because Sebastian has said he doesn't mind (physically) challenging or demanding tasks and will likely be able to endure it. Sebastian didn't mind and he was glad the others got the movie night since there had been a bit of drama earlier. (See below for more about that.)

In my opinion, both consequences were a bit... meh!

But we had quite a bit drama today:

Earlier today, residents of Hell did yet another fake performance of suffering. This time, they took a tin bucket half full of coal to the yard, on the gravel path, near the smoking cage, and lied to the residents of Heaven that someone had complained it being cold in Hell and Big Brother had ordered them to take the bucket of coal outside and fetch the pieces of coal from the bucket one by one while walking the gravel path barefoot. They also performed a couple of intense fake arguments on aborting the task (or not aborting it) in front of the residents of Heaven:


14:10 Suvi, who is a resident of Heaven, is sure BB actually wants someone to try and abort the task. Amanda is pretending she wants to continue carrying it out no matter what. Salar has already "given up" (he's going by the "script" they devised before coming out of Hell) and just squats in front of Hell's Gate, at the beginning of the gravel path, and keeps complaining about the others who are still walking along the path and carrying the bits of coal. They're having an argument while the residents of Heaven are watching but it's all an act:

Amanda: "If this doesn't stop tomorrow, we will all give up then."
Salar: "Tomorrow? Again? Are you for real?! You keep saying that every day!"
Amanda: "Yeah, but we can--"
Sebastian: "How much longer can you keep saying we'll gonna give up 'tomorrow'!?"
Amanda: "We'll give up by tomorrow noon if this doesn't end before that!"
Salar: "Yeah, right..."
Tanja: "We've gone this far, we're not going to give up now, guys."
Salar: "Says Tanja. You were allowed to take a shower, you didn't need to smear this shit on your skin, you can sleep at nights..." (Tanja actually had an allergic reaction earlier so she was allowed to take a shower and doesn't need to paint herself with the body paint.)
Tanja (feigning angriness): "Just keep your fucking mouth shut 'coz you're not even doing anything useful there!" (throws Salar angrily with a bit of coal) "Stuff that in it for all I care!"

A bit later Mikael emerges from Hell's diary room wearing a skirt made of leafy birch twigs. He was supposedly ordered to wear it because he's allergic to birch trees. (Or so he says.) He starts sneezing, or faking sneezes, while walking down the gravel path. The residents of Heaven are watching his torment.


Some fifteen minutes later Suvi has had enough of the show. She can't understand how the residents of Hell willingly continue their torment and do not allow the weaker housemates, who in her opinion are clearly suffering, to abort the task. And she's a resident of Heaven, so she's not faking it:

Suvi: "Can't you people see what you're doing to each other? I'll take the punishment, here, have something to eat!"

She takes a basket full of pancakes from the kitchen of Heaven, marches into Hell and tosses the basket on the floor, telling the residents of Hell to eat. She also rips off her "angelic" toga. Suvi has now aborted the task, in her opinion, as she wasn't supposed to hand over food to the residents of Hell or stop wearing the toga.

Residents of Hell get a bit scared at her reaction, try to calm her down and eventually retreat to their hellhole and close the two soundproof doors behind them to discuss the events. They're beginning to think they have gone too far, and they're talking about the Stanford prison experiment, and comparing their situation to that. Especially Sebastian is of the opinion he isn't going to go any further with this task: it's morally wrong, and he has already gone too far. The other residents of Hell are also beginning to see his viewpoint. They're planning they'll need to tone down things now. They will no longer do any fake shows, just rot in Hell and maybe go out for a smoke but nothing more. The benefits they've received from faking suffering - such as proper food and blankets - are not worth it if the residents of Heaven are in emotional distress, crying, breaking down etc. because of them.

Meanwhile, Suvi has gone to Heaven's diary room to discuss her feelings. When she comes back, she calls everyone to hear what she was told. She tells the other housemates, who have gathered around her, that she went in the diary room and tried aborting the task, to make it official. But she was told if anyone tries to abort the task for real, they will be evicted, and that's nonnegotiable.

All the other housemates from both Heaven and Hell are now saying she can't do that, and they don't want her to do that. She then reluctantly puts her toga back on again and carries on as if the incident hadn't happened.

The current situation is a bit of a stalemate. The residents of Heaven are certainly not enjoying their privileges any longer. The residents of Hell are unsure of what will happen next: maybe they'll be put back on their former diet or maybe they'll get punishments for not carrying out the secret task any longer. But they're adamant they're not going to fake any suffering any more.

It remains to be seen what will happen during the movie night which the housemates got from Pandora's Box and during Annika's and Sebastian's all-night ball-bouncing consequence, but otherwise it looks like a quiet, uneventful, low-key Saturday night in the house.

Pretty much everybody - including the viewers - wishes this drawn-out weekly task would already come to its end but according to the information released earlier during the week, it will continue at least till Monday.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on October 08, 2011, 07:05:54 PM
Meanwhile all other HMs will spend their night standing on the patio/terrace wearing cardboard boxes. Additionally they will have to throw a ball, that gives electric shocks randomly, all night long.
And of course they are standing in the boxes. Grammar in the Finnish language is funny in the way, that there sometimes is room for interpretation. Which in my mind was the case here. I automatically assumed, they would wear the boxes. Such has the nature of the weekly task been.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 08, 2011, 08:14:27 PM
I automatically assumed, they would wear the boxes. Such has the nature of the weekly task been.

Yeah, they're standing in small cardboard boxes and throwing the ball back and forth. This far, it hasn't given them a single shock. They've been wondering about that: maybe it's not working or something. While tossing and catching the ball, Annika and Sebastian have had a good discussion going on on numerous things, though. If either of them drops the ball, the one who dropped it needs to do 40 jumps so that they will squat, bend forward and touch the patio with their fingertips between each of them.

Meanwhile in Hell: The movie night has ended and the hellmates have received a basket full of alcoholic drinks in Hell's diary room. They're supposed to drink in secrecy. I'm not sure where's the challenge here, though, if they can keep the two sound-proof doors closed.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on October 08, 2011, 09:44:48 PM
Who nominated who.

And again 2 point nominations first and 1 point second.

Salar: Janica, Tanja
Annika: Janica, Stefan
Sebastian: Stefan, Annika
Amanda: Terhi, Annika
Mikael: Janica, Tanja
Ben: Sebastian, Terhi
Tanja: Mikael, Stefan
Veera: Terhi, Tanja
Terhi: Stefan, Tanja
Stefan: Suvi, Tanja
Janica: Annika, Mikael
Suvi: Mikael, Annika

Janica 7
Stefan 6
Annika 5
Terhi 5
Mikael 5
Tanja 4
Suvi 2
Sebastian 2
Amanda -
Ben -
Salar -
Veera -
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: World of BB on October 08, 2011, 11:08:59 PM
I think that Mikael should have been announced as a nominee and allowed to take part in the lifeline competition, even though ultimately he wouldn't take part in the public vote. Tanja should not have been one of the nominees.

And again Salar gets zero points. How can this nasty person keep getting no nominations? Even after BB played videos of him which upset the girls they still don't nominate him.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on October 09, 2011, 12:14:16 AM
I also think, that Mikael should've been included in the lifeline competition. But it's possible the producers just wants to get rid of Tanja. They don't have any solid reason to eject her. That's a theory anyway.

On Salar I have nothing.

And Annika just replaced Janica to continue the Pandora's Box consequence for her. Apparently Annika has a problem with her back. And BB told her she has to replace herself with another HM.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 09, 2011, 04:49:28 AM
A small update about last night: Annika threw the ball with Sebastian for some hours but got back pains. (Annika has some problem in her back due to having actively practiced gymnastics and jazz dance all her childhood and teens, and standing in a small cardboard box for hours to end with little chance to change your posture didn't help.) She then tried to get some ibuprofen-based painkillers from BB. Instead of dispensing her pills, BB ordered her to abort the task and made her choose someone else in her place. Annika chose Janica as she didn't want to choose anyone from Hell and Janica and Suvi were the only residents of Heaven who were still awake.

Janica didn't mind this surprise assignment at all. She and Sebastian had a lively discussion all night long while throwing and catching the ball. Sebastian was also happy to get this private conversation time with Janica. Since they were on different sides (Heaven and Hell) all week, they hadn't been talking much lately, and he had been missing Janica's company. The two clearly have some kind of chemistry going on but probably not in a romantic sense, as their worldviews are most likely too far apart for that.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 09, 2011, 04:01:03 PM
And again Salar gets zero points. How can this nasty person keep getting no nominations? Even after BB played videos of him which upset the girls they still don't nominate him.

It actually looks like Veera has already forgiven him and doesn't mind getting intimate with him again. Whether that is so remains to be seen once the weekly task ends (...on Monday?)

Salar has been wanting Janica out, and hence badmouthing her to the other housemates at least since the trailer holiday week. I'm not sure if he personally dislikes her of if he just sees her as a threat as a comptetitor. It's always hard to say how much of anything what Salar says is his actual opinion and how much of it is lies, provocative jabs (his kind of humor) and showmanship. Ironically, Janica sees Salar as a good guy and one of the housemates who has a positive attitude towards her.

Janica and Annika continue having this mutual hate-hate relationship with each other.

Janica feels Annika has robbed her of Mikael's friendship and attention (which flourished during the initial week or two, or so) and turned him against her. As Janica sees it, Mikael has changed into a cold, rude person who doesn't even want to look Janica in the eyes. Annika's laughter and spontaneous fooling around with Mikael also irritates Janica to no end. She sees Annika faking much of that, or simply behaving in a too childish way for her tastes. Janica thinks Annika is a bit of a drama queen and shouldn't make such big a number out of various things. (Janica feels she's a much tougher person herself and could easily handle even the most demanding tasks without breaking down and crying the way Annika might do. She's also of the opininon that if people can't handle these tasks, maybe they shouldn't be in the house in the first place. Or at least they can always quit if it's too much for them.)

Annika doesn't like Janica because she acts cold towards her and seems to avoid her company. Janica has also humiliated Annika a couple of times in the role-playing tasks, on purpose. On the other hand, Annika has been known to eagerly talk to the others about Janica's wrongdoings behind her back, without wanting to discuss those things one-to-one with her.

Janica has been one of the centers of attention this week due to her having irritated the residents of Hell by enjoying herself in Heaven a bit too much, in their opinion. For example, one thing she did was calmly raising a toast from the jacuzzi, smiling and winking her eye while the residents of Hell were ordered to jump and squat on the gravel path in front of them, and Annika was crying. Residents of Hell thought this went too far. Another one of Janica's sins was choosing Salar and Annika to walk the gravel path in the middle of the night when Terhi and Janica wanted to get some music in the Heavenly bedroom, and BB ordered Janica to choose two housemates from Hell to do the walk to "power" that music. Annika was crying back then, too, as she had just fallen in sleep, was woken up to do the walk, felt hungry and shitty having slept on the floor with no shower, had massage oil and coal smeared on her skin, and it was cold outside and the gravel path felt painful on her soles.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: OmgItsPhil on October 09, 2011, 07:37:18 PM
The eviction show is currently ongoing. The current standings of the eviction were shown on Friday and also throughout the live show.

(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/uutiset/vko6/1227737-max468x468.jpg)



Friday 19:17pm - Tanja, Stefan, Amanda, Annika, Janica

Friday 19:22pm - Annika, Janica, Amanda, Stefan, Tanja

Friday 19:25pm - Annika, Janica, Amanda, Stefan, Tanja



Sunday 21:06pm - Annika, Janica, Amanda, Tanja, Stefan

Sunday 21:10pm - Annika, Janica, Amanda, Stefan, Tanja

Sunday 21:23pm - Annika, Janica, Stefan, Amanda, Tanja

Sunday 21:30pm - Annika, Amanda, Janica, Stefan, Tanja

Sunday 21:39pm - Annika, Janica, Amanda, Tanja, Stefan

Sunday 21:47pm - Annika, Stefan, Janica, Amanda, Tanja

Sunday 21:59pm - Annika, Janica, Amanda, Tanja, Stefan

Sunday 22:05pm - Stefan, Annika, Janica, Amanda, Tanja

Sunday 22:15pm - Annika, Janica, Tanja, Amanda, Stefan

Sunday 22:22pm - Stefan, Janica, Amanda, Tanja, Annika

Sunday 22:26pm - Voting closes and Amanda is evicted.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Jäck on October 09, 2011, 08:06:04 PM
Anywhere I can watch the show?
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: OmgItsPhil on October 09, 2011, 08:08:57 PM
Anywhere I can watch the show?

I'm not aware of any unfortunately. :'(
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: OmgItsPhil on October 09, 2011, 08:28:12 PM
Amanda has been evicted from the house.

Unexpected result in my opinion.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: OmgItsPhil on October 09, 2011, 08:36:26 PM
(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/asukkaat/1228592-max468x468.jpg)

For the next eviction, the public will nominate and the housemates will vote to evict. Everyone except Mikael can be voted for. The public vote is not to save, but to nominate.

Next Sunday, two new housemates will enter the house.

Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: joako on October 09, 2011, 08:38:17 PM
([url]http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/asukkaat/1228592-max468x468.jpg[/url])

For the next eviction, the public will nominate and the housemates will vote to evict. Everyone except Mikael can be voted for. The public vote is not to save, but to nominate.
I think Salar can be nominated by the public, but I don't think the housemates will vote to evict him  :-\
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Jäck on October 09, 2011, 08:44:23 PM
Amanda has been evicted from the house.

Unexpected result in my opinion.

 ;D ;D

Brilliant result >:D
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 09, 2011, 08:47:46 PM
For the next eviction, the public will nominate and the housemates will vote to evict. Everyone except Mikael can be voted for. The public vote is not to save, but to nominate.

Next Sunday, two new housemates will enter the house.
Also, during this night, Janica and Annika will be exchanged between Heaven and Hell.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on October 09, 2011, 08:52:18 PM
Percentages:

Annika 22,84%
Janica 19,66%
Tanja 19,65%
Stefan 19,29%
Amanda 17,49%

And also sometime at the end of next week the HMs will get a party, and will be told Mikael won the final week vote.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: OmgItsPhil on October 09, 2011, 08:55:31 PM
Percentages:

Annika 22,84%
Janica 19,66%
Tanja 19,65%
Stefan 19,29%
Amanda 17,49%

And also sometime at the end of next week the HMs will get a party, and will be told Mikael won the final week vote.

A total of 98.93%. Again the producers mess up. At least the mistake margins are becoming smaller. :D
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: spanish on October 09, 2011, 09:00:01 PM
I can believe the difference of 5.35 points between the evicted and the "favorite".
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 09, 2011, 09:11:31 PM
A total of 98.93%. Again the producers mess up. At least the mistake margins are becoming smaller. :D

They've explained that away with disqualified votes. For example, if you call the voting number assigned to a housemate who is not up for eviction this week or send an SMS with a typo in the name of the housemate, you'll lose your money but your vote will not affect anything. (Supposing they affect anything anyway. Cough.) As for why they would count those votes to the total, I don't know.


I was hoping for Stefan or Amanda to be evicted, Tanja to be saved. Stefan would have been my preferred choice for the evictee as he has fallen hopelessly in love with Amanda and doesn't seem to have a single thought in his mind not related to her any longer... and the whole thing was beginning to be both creepy and embarrassing as Amanda clearly wasn't interested in him in that sense but also didn't seem to be able or willing to put an end to it. (OK, Amanda leaving the house will fix that problem as well but I think I've already seen and heard (!) enough of Stefan anyway.)

Amanda was the next best choice, though, being a bit too calm and contained, rarely showing any emotion or doing any noteworthy, and hanging out with the narcissist, scheming Ben... and also participating in his and Salar's voting alliance.

The housemates are expecting the weekly task (and the Heaven and Hell split!) to end now but apparently they're not going to get their wish. When Annika moves to Heaven, she will not be allowed to reveal to the other residents of Heaven that Hell's been faking their suffering for the last few days. Janica, on the other hand, will be told it's all fake as she arrives in Hell.

The housemates can't yet truly believe Amanda would have been evicted for real. They're theorizing she's left for foreign exchange or there's some other trick BB is playing on them.

Amanda's eviction of course affects both Ben and Stefan and Ben's and Salar's alliance, so this is perhaps the first game-changing eviction we've seen this season.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 09, 2011, 09:38:41 PM
Janica was just asked to the diary room. She'll probably be ordered to go to Hell now.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 09, 2011, 09:43:29 PM
Anywhere I can watch the show?


http://www.katsomo.fi/bigbrother ("Osta katseluaikaa" = buy viewing time for the 24/7 feeds)
http://www.bigbrother.fi/videot.shtml/ohjelmat ("Videot" = Video clips, "Ohjelmat" = Shows, "Valitse päivä" = Pick a day)
http://bbviewer.blogspot.com/ (for those who have a Katsomo account and have subscribed to 24/7 feeds)

Janica is going to Hell now.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: World of BB on October 09, 2011, 10:23:40 PM
I presume the reason why they are telling them that Mikael is immune is because he would almost certainly find out from the new housemates anyway.

I hope the heaven/hell task finishes tomorrow. I'm bored with it now and want it to end.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 10, 2011, 01:27:15 AM
Annika hasn't yet left Hell (and probably doesn't know she will.) Janica has changed into bikinis and applied the black body paint. The hellmates got orders from the diary room to pretend to Janica, for a while, that they're still living in Hellish conditions.

The residents of Hell hide their duvets, pillows and food into the bathroom and tell Janica they're currently not allowed to use the bathroom. They're showing her around and describing how they sleep, what kind of lousy food they get and how they're supposed to pump the Device of Purgatory.

Then Salar is called to the diary room. When he comes back he stays partially behind the door and asks Janica to turn her back to him and close her eyes. When Janica does this, Salar comes out with a couple of beer cans, opens one of them and hands it to Janica, asking her to open her eyes. He then pops open the other one and makes a toast with it.

Salar (laughing): "Welcome to Hell!"

Janica is laughing but not totally surprised. She had at one point speculated something like this might be going on in Hell. They couldn't be sure, of course, and not all of them believed that. The residents of Hell then tell Janica what has been going on in Hell during the week. The first four days were actual Hell and they were actually suffering there. Then the secret task began and tables turned. Now they're the ones who have no worries but the residents of Heaven must suffer from seeing their suffering. Janica is now also shown the conveniences which were hidden in the bathroom.

Janica is amused but also a bit disappointed. She would have wanted to try out living in harsh, challenging conditions. The other housemates assure her the first part of the week wasn't really a piece of cake for them. They were hungry and tired all the time, feeling dirty, and it was too hot in the room as the heater was on all the time. It's hard to sleep on the floor, and the food was horrible. Many of them got allergic reactions from the coal and the massage oil which was then replaced with body paint. And they actually had to keep pumping the Device of Purgatory throughout nights and there was an eery soundtrack played on the speakers whenever the lights went out.

Since Janica had made many of the residents of Hell angry by her earlier behavior as a resident of Heaven, they cleared some air and discussed the things that had been bothering them quite thoroughly. The residents of Hell were of the opinion that it was a mistake for Janica to choose Annika and Salar for the nightly walk on the gravel path. Janica defended herself by telling them she was really drunk that night and she had understood the task required the residents of Heaven to make the residents of Hell suffer. And, maybe because she considers herself to be up for any task or challenge, she didn't think things through properly and couldn't see it could be really hard for some other people. She admits she might have been mistaken about that and apologises for that.

Salar tells Janica the hellmates have got orders the fake suffering must continue, so they will need to come up with a new show. Janica is told to go to the Platform of Hades (a square gravel area beside the gravel path in the living room) to count peas, a task which some of them had been doing for real while they were still living in actual Hell. Since Janica just moved in from Heaven she can't pretend being too weak or exhausted yet but she can assure the residents of Heaven what she has seen in Hell is for real and they're really suffering in there. Janica goes to the Platform of Hades and starts counting the peas.

Mikael and Salar come out of Hell and tell the residents of Heaven they're no longer allowed to use the bathroom. Or at least for the time being. They also lie to them that Annika had to pee in a bucket. The residents of Heaven can't hold their embarrassed laugh but they say they're feeling really sorry for them nonetheless, no offense. The hellmates also claim Tanja's bladder is bursting but she doesn't want to do it in front of the others so she'll probably need to walk down the gravel path to the Place of Harm (the smoking cage in the yard with a permanently running cold shower) and pee there.

Moments later, they also arrange a show where Mikael carries Annika to the Place of Harm, along the gravel path, and "washes" her using a bar of coal under the cold water. Then Ben, who is now counting the peas on the Platform of Hades fakes crying and wants to see Suvi, who was sleeping in the bedroom. Stefan goes and wakes her up. Suvi is looking very worried.

Ben (with a frail voice, sobbing): "I've only got one thing... Sorry!"
Suvi (worried): "For what?"

Ben explains it was the thing he said to her when they were on the sofas, related to Amanda. Ben begins explaining his feelings about Amanda to Suvi.

Salar comes out of hell and tells everyone Mikael was so good at washing Annika he got another task: he's required to go outside and do various exhausting jumps and push-ups and other exercises. One of the residents of Heaven needs to count them for him. Stefan volunteers. Ben is still sobbing on the platform and counting the peas, Suvi tries to console him.

Mikael pretends he can no longer take it and starts reeling. Salar needs to walk him back to Hell. Tanja comes out of Hell and exchanges a few apathetic words with the residents of Heaven, looking tired and dispirited. The residents of Heaven look very serious and can't understand why the residents of Hell are made to do all these ridiculous things. At that moment, they get a pizza delivery in the storage room, as if the humiliating and painful tasks carried out by the residents of Hell would have made that happen.

Unbeknownst to the residents of Heaven, the hellmates get pizza for their troubles as well.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 10, 2011, 01:58:28 AM
2:21 Veera and Stefan are still sitting at the dinner table. Suvi ja Terhi have gone to bed. They are lying under duvets in the dark, heavenly bedroom. They're still awake, though.

Back in her normal life (or what counts as 'normal' for her), Terhi, who has numerous tattoos, piercings and implants and a split tongue, has also tried hanging from meat hooks pierced to her back, several times. She has said it's an uplifting experience (Ha ha!) and the pain will go away once you're fully hanging in the air.

Terhi (lying on her back; with a pondering, sincere tone of voice): "Gee, if they will be made to hang from meat hooks tomorrow, I'll be so jealous of them!"
Suvi (with a tone of voice that says 'did I actually hear what I just heard?'): "Will be made to do what?"
Terhi: "Something like hanging from meat hooks, or such things... then I'll be so jealous of them!"
Suvi (shocked, lifting her head from the pillow): "Who?"
Terhi: "Them guys in Hell..."
Suvi: "Of course they aren't. Are you nuts? They can't... they couldn't make them do anything that would leave scars!"
Terhi (after a while of thinking): "OK, I guess you're right."
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Jarskaaja on October 10, 2011, 04:41:55 PM
The weekly task ends today. Both sides know about this and have received a secret task that they must not tell the other side.

Secret tasks are really getting overused this season...

edit:
Now they both know about it and recently had a task to get rid of the rock path (bring all rocks to the outdoors task area). They're now outside, waiting to be let back inside.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 10, 2011, 05:09:55 PM
Annika was moved from Hell to Heaven. Once she had taken a shower and changed into clean clothes, BB ordered residents of Heaven and residents of Hell to gather around her and praise and rejoice her ethereal being. Then the residents of hell retreated to their room, behind locked doors.

Mikael (sitting down on Hell's floor): "This is soooo going to go on till the end of the week!"
Tanja: "I'm starting to get fed up with this, really."
Mikael: "I've already psyched myself up for it."

Back in Heaven, Suvi has been questioning Annika about the things she heard from Janica and Sebastian a couple of nights ago. Sebastian had been implying Annika would have been one of the central characters talking trash about Janica behind her back in Hell. Annika can't understand why Sebastian has been making their disputes public. They had agreed to discuss all these things one-on-one once the weekly task ends, but Sebastian broke this agreement by talking about it to Janica in advance.

Annika explains when they were doing the Copper Mine weekly task, she had had some good discussions with Janica and thought everything was OK between the two. But during this week's task Janica had once again humiliated her by assigning her the task of walking the gravel path barefoot from one end to the other in bikinis, in the middle of the night, specifically on grounds she would be the least likely to be able to bear it. And then there were those other things, such as watching the residents of Hell do jumps on the gravel path while she was in the jacuzzi, and just raising a toast and winking her eye as Annika was crying.

Annika gets a bit emotional, just like Janica last night in Hell. She thinks Janica has just decided not to like her or has formed a picture in her head of Annika not liking her. She has tried to act nicely, she has done Janica's hair, she has complimented her on her looks - she wouldn't do those kind of things if she thought Janica were an unbearable person. But she doesn't know what more she can do to earn Janica's respect. She wants to talk to Janica in private.

Some time later, Janica gets called to Hell's diary room and Annika to Heaven's diary room. Both come back explaining the others they will soon get gloves, buckets, and shovels in the storage room, and will then need to dismantle the gravel path in the living room. The weekly task is about to end. The housemates are relieved.

As of now, the housemates have shoveled the gravel off from the path both inside the house and in the yard as well and they're waiting on the patio. The rolling steel door is closed and blocks the entrance to the house.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 10, 2011, 05:48:59 PM
The housemates were let back in the house. The remains of the gravel path have been taken away and the bedroom has returned to normal. They have got a letter from Big Brother which Veera needs to read aloud.

Veera (reading the letter): "The weekly task has ended. Whether you succeeded in it or not will be announced later. You're free to discuss everything you've experienced during the week, except for diary room matters. Have a nice evening!"

The housemates shout and cheer. They decide to let the former residents of Hell clean up, take turns in shower and put on clean clothes first. Then they're going to have a dinner together. They will postpone discussion until everyone is clean, comfortable and has had something to eat.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on October 10, 2011, 06:08:50 PM
Amanda's eviction of course affects both Ben and Stefan and Ben's and Salar's alliance, so this is perhaps the first game-changing eviction we've seen this season.
This week's nomination system will also mess up Salar's gameplan. Of course he doesn't know it yet. It's getting more difficult for him (or anyone else) to scheme.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 11, 2011, 05:44:40 AM
The housemates have returned to "normal" life in the BB house. They had their dinner together. After that, the former residents of Hell revealed to the former residents of Heaven they had cheated them by only doing acts of feigning suffering since Thursday night. But the first four days (when they were actually deprived of proper sleep and food and had to oil themselves and smudge themselves with coal, the heater was always on so it was hot in the room etc.) were rough, nonetheless. The former residents of Heaven were laughing about some parts of it but they also felt a bit stupid for believing in them, especially Suvi who had worked herself up to rage and tried to abort the task in the diary room.

Annika and Janica had a lengthy (1h 45min!) private discussion in the nest. They explained their behavior, thoughts and beliefs about each other, personal features and characteristics, life philosophy and all kinds of other things. Annika apologized for her trash talk earlier during the week. Janica had already apologized for her behavior earlier. They hugged at the end, then left the nest. They're probably not going to be the closest friends in the house even now but hopefully they could now understand each other a bit better.

Ben has been active at scheming again. Once the weekly task ended and the split to Heaven and Hell was gone, Ben was first seen in the bedroom (which is now back to normal) asking Veera if she is still in their little clique. The next thing you know is Ben appears in the nest, having a private conversation with Stefan... about nomination. Apparently Stefan will give his nomination points to Sebastian and Suvi... just like Ben wants him to. (Or he would if there was a regular nomination this week.)

Stefan thinks Sebastian is too much of a spoilsport, a teacher-like character who tries to guide them all. Stefan doesn't feel the need for such guidance, he's a grown-up. Suvi, in Stefan's opinion, puts her nose too eagerly in other people's businesses.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 11, 2011, 03:25:55 PM
The weekly task has failed for the former residents of Heaven - including Annika, who moved to Heaven only two hours before the task ended. The former residents of Heaven will only get minimal, basic grocery supplies this week.

The weekly task has succeeded for the former residents of Hell - including Janica, who moved to Hell a day before the task ended. The former residents of Hell get a normal weekly budget and can buy things at the store.

During tonight's "BB Extra" show (7 p.m. to 7:30 p.m. Finnish time), the housemates will be shown a video clip which has something to do with the two intruders who are to enter the house this week. It has been revealed they're both males and both want to put a clamp on Salar's antics.

http://www.bigbrother.fi/uutiset.shtml/1409213/paljastus-uusista-asukkaista-kaksi-miesta

Intruder #1: "I will bring some common sense to the house with me. A lot of the long-awaited common sense. It also seems to me the house needs a policeman. It needs someone to keep Salar in check. What is more, because I'm Superman, idiocy and other nonsense is my kryptonite."

http://www.bigbrother.fi/uutiset.shtml/1409212/taman-videon-asukkaat-nakevat-tanaan--miten-salar-reagoi

Intruder #2: "I don't like Salar's attitude towards ladies at all. He thinks a bit too highly about himself. And even if he tells he has once attended to some gymnastics training - supposedly practicing martial arts - I don't... he doesn't look like that, at all. A kid is a kid. If you ask me, I'd evict Salar first. I'm going to try and make his life a bit difficult, at least. And why not steal Veera from him as well."

(Something smells fishy here. What's this? A scripted thing? An initial secret task for the intruders which aims to make Salar nervous?)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 11, 2011, 04:25:44 PM
The housemates got a continuous daily task: "Forbidden Words". Each of them got a personal list of four words or expressions they commonly use but are not to mention now. For each mistake, the offender needs to go to a device that dispenses an electric jolt to their fingertips.

Mikael is not allowed to say the nickname for Annika, "Ansku."
Annika is not allowed to say the nickname for Mikael, "Miksu."

Terhi, who is the worst nicotine addict in the house, got a list of various forbidden words related to cigarettes.

Ben can't say the Finnish equivalents of "yeah" or "so".

Tanja and Janica got some filler words which they frequently use and find difficult to avoid in their speech (comparable to "kinda" etc.) Now they're talking slowly and in a kind of stilted, formal manner. :D

No-one else than Sebastian is allowed to say "fuck". Sebastian, on the other hand, can't mention the words "God" or "Jesus".
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: OmgItsPhil on October 11, 2011, 06:14:14 PM
The two new housemates that are to enter on Sunday are both male.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 11, 2011, 06:26:27 PM
The first video has been shown to the housemates. The women of the house are excited about the prospect of getting a new male housemate with a muscular body. Salar is irritated about "the police" mentioning him, specifically. (I wonder how he will react when the second video is shown.) Stefan and Ben think the "Superman" talk is ridiculous. Mikael got hit by muscle envy and began a training program.

Nearly all of the housemates have endured shocks for forgetting about their forbidden words. Janica blurted out a forbidden word four times in a row while telling a story. :)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on October 11, 2011, 07:53:50 PM
The second video was shown to the HMs a while ago. Ben and Salar almost immediately went to the Nest. A crisis talk was in place. I guess both of them now feel a bit insecure.

On the top of the videos, sleeping arrangements will be changed tonight. All of the HMs will get a bed with their name on it. The HM can only lay down on a bed, that is designated to them. No-one else can lay down on someone else's bed. Also girls and guys will be separated. The guys will remain in the BR, while the extra room will become the girls' BR.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 11, 2011, 11:25:35 PM
The new, enforced sleeping arrangements; people who sleep in the same bed:

Guys:

- Ben and Stefan (it's going to be difficult since Stefan is so big!)
- Sebastian and Salar (the self-proclaimed "brothers" of the house)
- Mikael (they've made him sleep in a single bed probably just to underline his separation from Annika)

Girls:

- Annika and Janica (Both were laughing and hugging each other when they saw the name tags for the first time and realized they have to sleep next to each other in the same bed. Apparently the conversation they had in the Nest last night helped make their strained relationship better or at least normalized it a bit.)
- Suvi, Terhi, Veera, Tanja (they actually sleep in two double beds but they're located side by side)

Salar was comically nervous the whole evening as he thought the girls are going to get a visit from the new housemates in their bedroom this night. (Not going to happen; BB is just messing with their minds.) Salar is also annoyed about the fact that both new housemates mentioned him on the videos and not in a too positive light.

The new house rules are as follows:

- beds are for sleeping and sitting on
- you may only sleep or sit on the bed assigned to you, not on anyone else's bed
- guests of opposite sex are allowed in the bedrooms but they may only sit on chairs and you may not take them in bed with you
- whenever anyone in either of the bedrooms announces he or she wants to sleep, all guests must leave and cannot come back until everyone is awake again
- you're not allowed to sleep or lie on the floor in any part of the house
- you're not allowed to sleep or lie on the sofas located in the living room

As you can see, things have taken a turn to a quite a bit stricter direction. These sleeping arrangements are probably not going to last forever but they will put at least a temporary stop to the remaining couples of the house (Veera & Salar, Annika & Mikael) just lying in bed and getting intimate with each other. We can now hopefully see these people taking a bit more active roles as individual persons for a while instead of just being symbiotic couples... which is only a good thing for the viewers but very likely sexually frustrating to the couples. ;)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 12, 2011, 03:20:19 AM
Here are Salar's reactions (and reactions from the other housemates as well) to the two video clips about the upcoming intruders:

http://www.bigbrother.fi/uutiset.shtml/1409278/salar-uudesta-tulokkaasta-ma-teen-sen-elamasta-hlvettia
http://www.bigbrother.fi/uutiset.shtml/1409302/asukkaat-nakivat-toisen-videon--veeran-suojeluvietti-herasi

(See here (http://forum.worldofbigbrother.com/index.php?topic=547.msg25498#msg25498) for a translation of what the guys seen in the clips are saying.)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: OmgItsPhil on October 12, 2011, 05:15:24 PM
The voting situation on Wednesday at 19:06pm are:

1 & 2. Annika & Salar
3. Janica
4. Ben
5. Terhi
6. Suvi

The places of Sebastian, Veera, Stefan and Tanja have not been revealed.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 12, 2011, 05:42:23 PM
(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/uutiset/vko7/1232129-max468x468.jpg)

Terhi (http://www.bigbrother.fi/uutiset.shtml/1409676/terhi-tilitti-turhautumistaan-talon-naisiin-en-jaksa) has been feeling down, angry and frustrated all day, possibly because she has no cigarettes, possibly for some other reason. She has made a plea to Big Brother about wanting to move to the guys' bedroom as she can't stand all the speculation that has been going on in the girls' bedroom. Today, she has mostly spent her time outside and in the bathroom, alone. Some viewers have even speculated she might have taken the 24 hours option.

The housemates have seen a new video clip (http://www.bigbrother.fi/uutiset.shtml/1409952/tama-video-naytettiin-taloon--mannaa-mikaelille) where Intruder #2 tells he thinks Mikael is the most reasonable one of the original housemates and he would like to get to know him better... accompanied by cheesy, gentle music. The housemates were going "Aww!" and laughing about this.

The continuous daily task "Forbidden Words" has created some comical situations. Especially Janica's and Tanja's discussions in the Nest are constantly interrupted by one or the other accidentally saying a forbidden word, having to momentarily stop the discussion, crawl out of the Nest and go get an electric shock from the torture device.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on October 12, 2011, 09:38:21 PM
Terhi is really down now. She really seems, like she's ready to walk. Seems like in her nicotine withdrawal she just doesn't care about anything or anyone anymore.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 12, 2011, 09:57:55 PM
(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/uutiset/vko7/maanantaii/terhi_galleria/1232373-max468x468.jpg)

(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/uutiset/vko7/maanantaii/terhi_galleria/1232384-max468x468.jpg)

(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/uutiset/vko7/maanantaii/terhi_galleria/1232377-max468x468.jpg)

(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/uutiset/vko7/maanantaii/terhi_galleria/1232378-max468x468.jpg)

(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/uutiset/vko7/maanantaii/terhi_galleria/1232380-max468x468.jpg)

(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/uutiset/vko7/maanantaii/terhi_galleria/1232432-max468x468.jpg)

(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/uutiset/vko7/maanantaii/terhi_galleria/1232460-max468x468.jpg)

Terhi also hasn't had anything to drink or eat the whole day, and doesn't want to. Big Brother has called the housemates, including Terhi, on the sofas twice during the evening already. Both times someone (first Stefan, then Tanja) was called to the diary room. Upon coming back they had to remind the others to eat and drink to remain healthy. Both these reminders were clearly directed at Terhi even though they were given just in a general sense.

Terhi has been complaining about having a headache and saying she doesn't want anyone's company now. She has mostly been sitting alone on the bathroom floor, leaning against the wall, with a blanket over her knees, just staring emptily into the far distance or rubbing her temples.

Update: The housemates have been called to the sofas the third time this evening. Sebastian is now in the diary room. I'm pretty sure when he comes back, he is also instructed to remind the others about the virtues of proper nutrition and about the dangers of dehydration.

Update #2: Sebastian came back from the diary room and just had to restate the rules regarding the bedrooms. He had nothing further to announce. Terhi had been waiting for the bedrooms to open (they've been locked all day for some reason) and immediately went to bed.

(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/uutiset/vko7/maanantaii/terhi_galleria/1232463-max468x468.jpg)

(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/uutiset/vko7/maanantaii/terhi_galleria/1232462-max468x468.jpg)

It's been a quiet night. Some of the housemates have still been discussing in the yard under the smoking camopy and in the living room on the sofas but most of them are already sleeping.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 13, 2011, 03:46:17 AM
3:30 a.m. Terhi couldn't sleep in the girls' bedroom because they have three single beds, arranged side-by-side, for four people. And also because she has no cigarettes and the withdrawal symptoms have kicked in. She leaves the bed and walks angrily to the living room, slamming the bedroom door shut behind her. Once in the living room, she tries to lie down on the sofa.

Sebastian (who was visiting the bathroom) asks her if everything is OK. Terhi tells him her opinion about the no-good sleeping arrangements. She then gets up and tries to go out in the yard but the door to the patio is locked. Frustrated at this, Terhi walks directly to the diary room door and pushes the doorbell button. As she isn't immediately let in, she sits down on the floor beside the diary room door an leans against the wall.

Suvi, who was sleeping next to her, comes out of the girls' bedroom with her duvet wrapped around her.

Suvi: "You're hopefully not planning to do anything stupid, are you?"
Terhi: "No. I'm going there to ask who's the fucking genius..." (Terhi gets up and goes to get an electric shock from the "torture device" as "fuck" and "fucking" are now "Forbidden Words") "...who has decided to make four people sleep on three single beds!"

Terhi walks back to the diary room door and slams the doorbell button down with her entire palm.

Terhi: "I'm totally fed up with this shit. I'm ready to quit."
Suvi: "Terhi, stop that talk. Now. Please."
Terhi (still pushing the doorbell button): "You're not allowed to sleep during the day, not during the night, I'm out of cigarettes, I have nothing! This isn't worth it."
Suvi: "That's why I asked you--"
Terhi: "Yeah?"
Suvi: "--you're not going to do anything stupid?"
Terhi: "I'll get my 24 hours to consider this thing once I get inside that room."
Suvi: "No you won't. Please, you're not going do that!"
Terhi (sitting on the floor again): "No, really. You know, I'm gonna lose it here!"

Suvi squats down in front of Terhi, still wrapped in her duvet, trying to console her.

Terhi (with teary voice): "You all don't know what's been going on in my mind during the last 12 hours!"
Suvi: "No, we don't, but--"
Terhi (gesturing violently with her hands): "You. Really. Don't. Know! Just leave me alone, I only want to be left alone!"

Terhi is sobbing.

Suvi: "Terhi dear, for real: we can't know because you're not talking to us--"
Terhi (with high-pitched tone): "No you won't because I don't want to talk about it! I only want away from here! You know, I'm so fed up with you all!"

Suvi lets out a little sigh.

Terhi: "And I mean all of you!"
Suvi: "Okay, now liste--"
Terhi: "I'M SO FED UP WITH THAT FUCKING BED AND THAT FUCKING ROOM!"

Sebastian emerges from the guys' bedroom to check out the situation.

Suvi: "Listen to me, it's fine if you're fed up with--"
Terhi (feverishly pushing the diary room doorbell button): "Let me fucking in!"
Suvi: "Hey, listen to me. You can be fed up with all of us, you can be fed up with me, but please don't go there and do anything stupid. Because you'd regret that for the rest of your life."
Sebastian: "Yeah."

Terhi: "This isn't any wanton act! I've been thinking about this for over 24 hours now!"
Suvi: "Well, okay, but--"
Terhi (getting up): "Please just leave me alone, don't you understand! Let me be ALONE!"

Terhi walks briskly away from the diary room door and goes to the bathroom adjacent to the girls bedroom. Suvi gets there and tries to talk to her once again, but Terhi then leaves and walks to the main bathroom, slamming the door shut behind her, and sitting down on the floor, alone once again.

After a couple of minutes, Big Brother calls Terhi to the diary room. She gets up and goes there immediately. The session takes over 20 minutes. Terhi then comes out and sits down on the floor by the diary room door. After a couple of minutes, the buzzer goes off and Terhi goes back in, this time spending there only four minutes. Then she comes out and goes straight to bed without speaking anything to anyone. By this time, it's 4:12 a.m.

(You can view a short video clip of these events here (http://www.bigbrother.fi/uutiset.shtml/1410134/terhilla-keitti-yli--harkitsi-luovuttamista).)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 13, 2011, 12:45:46 PM
(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/uutiset/vko7/1232906-max468x468.jpg)

(http://i52.tinypic.com/10h368m.png)

2 p.m.

Terhi has visited the diary room again. When she returns to the company of the others, she's crying. She says she is required to announce to everyone she's not quitting. But she's not sure if it's the right decision. Sebastian asks her some questions about her feelings right now. Terhi doesn't really know what her feelings are now and she doesn't know how much longer she will be able to take this.

There's a news article on the official website which reveals Terhi had indeed wanted to quit last night. As she was called to the diary room today, she was told she'll get a punishment for not following Big Brother's orders last night. She's required to spend the whole day in the company of another housemate. (This is going to be difficult for her as she feels her nerves are a wreck and having to be in the company of anyone only makes it worse. All she has wanted to do since yesterday is to be left alone.)

According to the news article, upon hearing about the punishment in the diary room, Terhi repeated she just wants to quit. Big Brother then gave her two options: either she quits immediately or carries on in the house and serves her punishment. Which one is it going be? Terhi had thought about it for a good while but then decided to continue her stay in the house.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 13, 2011, 03:53:39 PM
Suvi and Veera have been allowed to touch Intruder #1 in the diary room, blindfolded:

(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/uutiset/vko7/1233149-max468x468.jpg)

Their excited screams could be heard in the house through the two doors. When they came back, they were allowed to tell the others what they had done. Both girls had gone crazy and felt his stiff muscles and face, but the new guy wasn't allowed to talk to them, and then left the diary room using the back door before they were let back into the house.

(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/uutiset/vko7/kuvagalleriat/1233187-max468x468.jpg)

Salar's reaction:

(http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/7688/plugincontainer20111013.jpg)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 13, 2011, 05:05:15 PM
Janica and Annika have grown closer to one another. It's time to do some stretching!

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Salar admires the view.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 14, 2011, 02:30:26 AM
A small update: Yesterday, the housemates were shown more clips of the mysterious new housemates. This time, the intruders told their views about Sebastian and Annika.

One of the intruders (#2) was a bit curious about how Sebastian can categorize himself as bisexual as he has never had sex. He also mentioned Sebastian's regular praying sessions and wondered if he actually does that at home too. He feels they'll get along, though.

Another clip concerned Annika. Intruder #2 considers Annika the most simple-minded of the housemates. (The housemates had a good laugh about this while sitting on the sofas and watching the video.) According to his view, Annika is a blonde and so does not always get things immediately. And even though she's happy and laughs a lot, her positive energy has its limits. When that energy runs up - as it eventually does for us all - she'll get serious fits of angst and anger, which might get annoying over the time.

Annika's reaction:

(http://i.imgur.com/RlUXI.png)

(Annika wasn't too offended and kept cracking jokes about her supposed stupidity.)

Salar has been acting cold towards Veera ever since Veera was allowed to touch the new housemate in the diary room, blindfolded. Veera can't get why, and Salar doesn't even want to discuss it, which bothers Veera. The women of the house (at least Suvi) suspect it's Salar's defense mechanism against potentially "losing" Veera to the new housemates.

Thursday was a much better day for Terhi than Wednesday. She was beginning to act in a much more normal way as the evening progressed. She admits she was really, really close to quitting, though, and it was mostly about cigarettes, and she's still not sure if she made the right decision when she chose to remain in the house.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 14, 2011, 02:57:36 AM
Another update: The housemates will get a Mexican-themed party today (Friday). The party is scheduled to begin at about 3 p.m. Finnish time.

During the party, the housemates will finally be told who actually won the immunity vote near the beginning of the season. (This immunity lasts up until the final week and the winner was Mikael. The housemates were never told the results but Ben was originally led to believe he might have been the winner. He has become suspicious about that since then, though.)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 14, 2011, 10:24:29 PM
The Mexican-themed party is still going on. You can catch the last two hours by using BBViewer and its timeshifting option.

BB has announced Mikael as the winner of the immunity vote. The immunity will last up until the final week. The other housemates cheered and congratulated him. Mikael looked both astonished and embarrassed. He's not quite sure if it's a good thing or a bad thing. He's afraid it'll just make things harder for him. The other housemates thought it might be either Sebastian, Ben or Mikael.

Janica, whose second profession is a stripper and pole dancer (she's a daytime accountant) has performed for the other housemates. She's been quite plastered all night.

(http://i.imgur.com/Zk59f.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/smFIO.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/AFQa7.jpg)
(http://i52.tinypic.com/wi0n02.jpg)
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(http://i.imgur.com/qdlJC.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/tkSRN.jpg)
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Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on October 15, 2011, 01:50:36 AM
HMs will evict one of them live on Sunday's talk show. Face to face. As soon as they have been told the two who have been nominated by the public.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 15, 2011, 01:13:40 PM
The toilet seat in the bathroom started talking to Sebastian and gave him a secret task: on a certain cue, Sebastian needs to start laughing and chuckling at anything Salar says. Sebastian didn't seem too enthusiastic about the task, possibly because he considers Salar his friend and doesn't want to create any scenes with him.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 16, 2011, 01:56:26 PM
BBF2011 24/7 live feeds are on special offer today (Sunday, Finnish time), and only today: you can get the remaining half of the season for €16.50 (http://www.bigbrother.fi/uutiset.shtml/1410278/bb--supertarjouksessa-vain-tanaan). (The season is now halfway through so there are still 7 weeks left.) You need to enter the code "BB2011ALE" in the field "Minulla on Katsomo-koodi" while subscribing.

See my previous posts in this thread for more information about the live feeds. Once you have your Katsomo account and a valid subscription to the 24/7 feeds, the most convenient way to actually watch them is using BBViewer (http://bbviewer.blogspot.com/) instead of your web browser. (Make sure you have updated Internet Explorer to the latest available version and installed the most recent version of Microsoft's Silverlight plugin. Even though BBViewer is a stand-alone app, it relies on those components to be present in the system in order to display the live feeds.)

Tonight, at 9 p.m. Finnish time, during the live eviction show, two new (male) housemates will enter the house. The housemates will evict one of the old housemates in a special vote where the viewers have nominated two of them for eviction and the housemates will have to publicly vote to evict one or the other.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: OmgItsPhil on October 16, 2011, 07:41:45 PM
(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/asukkaat/1228592-max468x468.jpg)

The live show is on now, and the public are still voting to nominate.

The voting updates since Wednesday are:



Wednesday 19:06pm - Annika and Salar, Janica, Ben, Terhi, Suvi (position of Stefan, Sebastian, Tanja, Veera not revealed)



Thursday 19:05pm - Annika and Salar, Janica, Ben, Terhi (position of Stefan, Sebastian, Suvi, Tanja, Veera not revealed)



Friday 19:05pm - Annika and Salar, Janica, Ben, Terhi (position of Stefan, Sebastian, Suvi, Tanja, Veera not revealed)

Friday 19:25pm - Annika and Salar, Janica, Ben, Terhi (position of Stefan, Sebastian, Suvi, Tanja, Veera not revealed)



Sunday 16:45pm - Annika, Salar, Janica, Ben, Terhi (position of Stefan, Sebastian, Suvi, Tanja, Veera not revealed)

Sunday 21:09pm - Annika and Janica, Salar, Ben, Terhi (position of Stefan, Sebastian, Suvi, Tanja, Veera not revealed)

Sunday 21:13pm - Salar and Annika, Janica, Ben, Terhi (position of Stefan, Sebastian, Suvi, Tanja, Veera not revealed)

Sunday 21:19pm - Salar and Annika, Janica, Ben, Terhi (position of Stefan, Sebastian, Suvi, Tanja, Veera not revealed)

Sunday 21:27pm - Annika and Janica, Salar, Ben, Terhi (position of Stefan, Sebastian, Suvi, Tanja, Veera not revealed)

Sunday 21:32pm - Salar and Janica, Annika, Ben, Terhi (position of Stefan, Sebastian, Suvi, Tanja, Veera not revealed)

Sunday 21:37pm - Annika and Janica, Salar, Ben, Terhi (position of Stefan, Sebastian, Suvi, Tanja, Veera not revealed)

Sunday 21:43pm - Annika and Salar, Janica, Ben, Terhi (position of Stefan, Sebastian, Suvi, Tanja, Veera not revealed)

Sunday 21:50pm - Salar and Annika, Janica, Ben, Terhi (position of Stefan, Sebastian, Suvi, Tanja, Veera not revealed)

Sunday 21:56pm - Annika and Janica, Salar, Ben, Terhi (position of Stefan, Sebastian, Suvi, Tanja, Veera not revealed)

Sunday 22:00pm - Salar and Janica, Annika, Ben, Terhi (position of Stefan, Sebastian, Suvi, Tanja, Veera not revealed)

Sunday 22:05pm - Annika and Janica, Salar, Ben, Terhi (position of Stefan, Sebastian, Suvi, Tanja, Veera not revealed)

Sunday 22:10pm - Salar and Annika, Janica, Ben, Terhi (position of Stefan, Sebastian, Suvi, Tanja, Veera not revealed)

Sunday 22:13pm - Annika and Salar, Janica, Ben, Terhi (position of Stefan, Sebastian, Suvi, Tanja, Veera not revealed)

Voting closed at Sunday 22:23pm
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: OmgItsPhil on October 16, 2011, 08:20:56 PM
The new male housmates are:

(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/asukkaat/1232868-max468x468.jpg)
Name - Matti
Age - 28
Residence - Helsinki
Occupation - Sports massage therapist
Marital Status - Dating

(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/asukkaat/1232869-max468x468.jpg)
Name - Rami
Age - 32
Residence - Ylöjärvi
Occupation - Engineer
Marital Status - Single

(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/asukkaat/1235264-max468x468.jpg)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: joako on October 16, 2011, 08:26:58 PM
Annika and Salar are up for eviction
(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/uutiset/vko7/1235599-max468x468.jpg)

The results:

30.68% Annika
30.20% Salar

27.65% Janica
5.87% Ben
3.36% Terhi
0.73% Suvi
0.54% Stefan
0.97% Sebastian, Tanja and Veera
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: OmgItsPhil on October 16, 2011, 08:31:08 PM
Salar has been evicted with 5-4 votes.

Ben - Salar
Janica - Annika
Mikael - Salar
Sebastian - Annika
Stefan - Salar
Suvi - Annika
Tanja - Salar
Terhi - Salar
Veera - Annika
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Jäck on October 16, 2011, 08:32:40 PM
Im glad Salar is out :)

(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/asukkaat/1232868-max468x468.jpg)

This guy is roided up to the max :o
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Matt91 on October 16, 2011, 08:35:52 PM
Salar has been evicted with 5-4 votes.

Ben - Salar
Janica - Annika
Mikael - Salar
Sebastian - Annika
Stefan - Salar
Suvi - Annika
Tanja - Salar
Terhi - Salar
Veera - Annika


Looks like Salar won't need to worry about competing with the new guys...since he won't be there to :).
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: joako on October 16, 2011, 08:40:37 PM
Bye bye Salar!!  ;D ;D

(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/uutiset/vko7/1235621-max468x468.jpg)
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Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: World of BB on October 16, 2011, 09:22:57 PM
I bet the producers are shocked at that result as for the last week they have been hyping up the threat to Salar from the new houseamates.

I'm so happy that Salar is gone, but I am very surprised that they voted to evict him as he hasn't had a single nomination point all series.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on October 16, 2011, 09:37:54 PM
I think the most surprising vote was Stefan voting for Salar. Ben wasn't really a surprise, he never really nominated to what were agreed within the alliance.

Also, next Sunday there will be a life-changing experience for one of the HMs. At the moment it seems, it would be a HM swap. Can't really think of much anything else. I'll be positively surprised, if it's something else.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: World of BB on October 16, 2011, 09:50:59 PM
A swap would be with either - India, Norway, Portugal, UK or Ukraine.

Could we rule out Norway as I'm not sure a trip to Sweden would be classed as "life-changing" for a Finnish housemate?

A swap with Portugal would be interesting as I don't think there has ever been a swap involving a Secret Story edition.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on October 16, 2011, 10:10:51 PM
Yeah. Norway (or in this case Sweden) always looked the most likely destination for a swap. But it really wouldn't be life-changing for any of the HMs. I'm also hoping for Portugal, if there indeed is a swap. But then again...I guess India would be the most life-changing experience. Probably the least possible destination though. India was also on the table last year. Or I guess it never really was.

If we look at the languages spoken by the HMs, Annika is half Russian. So I guess Ukraine would make sense. Also most HMs speak English, not really sure if the UK would go for a swap this year.

Then again...a HM swap would be life-changing for all of the HMs. Not just for one. If you really think about it.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on October 17, 2011, 09:12:41 PM
The weekly task is "On the top of the world". They have a wall-climb machine on the patio. The task is to climb mountains and live the sometimes dangerous lives of rock-climbers. In the house they've imitated thin paths you might find on mountains. And the bedroom is a ledge, where they are sleeping in hammocks.

I guess this could be a hint at a swap with India. Previous years it have been hinted of what country the swap would be with the weekly task preceeding the exchange-week. Himalayas is the highest mountain in the world. Also the house is kind of Asian themed. Even though not directly related to India, it is the only Asian country atm to have a BB-edition in progress. And it would definately be life-changing for whoever would go. Still only guessing about the swap though.

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Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 18, 2011, 02:59:18 AM
I bet the producers are shocked at that result as for the last week they have been hyping up the threat to Salar from the new houseamates.

I'm so happy that Salar is gone, but I am very surprised that they voted to evict him as he hasn't had a single nomination point all series.

Here are the reasonings given by the housemates and some speculation about the choices their made:

Stefan - voted to evict Salar. Stefan couldn't really give any meaningful reason for his choice during the live broadcast - he was kind of left without words in the situation. However, it is known Stefan has a penchant for helping damsels in distress, and Annika is definitely one of those women in the house with whom Stefan is in good terms and feels protective about. (For example, during the Heaven and Hell weekly task, Stefan actually went to the diary room and offered to exchange himself from Heaven to Hell for getting Amanda and Annika in Heaven. He thought both girls were suffering far too much in Hell for him to bear it and was ready to go there himself, but BB rejected his offer.) Stefan's choice was still a surprise, though, since Stefan and Salar had this "father" and "son" gag and other guy banter going on, and they were kind of a comedy team at one point - especially during the RV/trailer week. What is more, Stefan was kind of a hangaround member in Ben's and Salar's secret voting alliance. Then again, Stefan doesn't think too highly on cheaters, and a couple of weeks ago, Salar "cheated" on Veera (another one of Stefan's favorite women in the house!) and hurt her feelings by fooling around with Janica. This incident might have been one of the reasons for Stefan wanting Salar out.

Terhi - voted to evict Salar. This was not too surprising. Even though Terhi thinks Salar is a one-of-a-kind type of guy and likes his humor, the two never were the closest friends in the house. Ever since the first couple of weeks, Terhi, Mikael and Annika have had this "trio" thing going on - Terhi is the third wheel in the company - and Annika's and Mikael's friendship means a lot more to Terhi.  (Terhi is quite likely secretly fond of Mikael and has already overstepped her limits once when she insisted on sleeping next to Mikael, after a drunken party night, resting her head on his shoulder. Annika, who admits being a super jealous person in her relationships (she's been cheated on herself quite badly in the real world), didn't take this in a good way. They have talked this through and made up, though. The actual reason Terhi gave for voting to evict Salar was simple: Salar had once said if someone wins the lifeline competition, he volunteers to exchange places with the winner (to measure how popular he is in the outside world and whether it makes sense to carry on with the "competition".)

Mikael - voted to evict Salar. (How surprising.) He was very diplomatic about it and said Salar is every bit as good a friend to him as Annika is, but... Annika is a woman and his romantic interest in the house.

Veera - voted to evict Annika. Salar was Veera's bedfellow in the house.

Ben - voted to evict Salar. Now this was a cheeky move! Salar and Ben had a voting alliance, and had agreed not to give nomination points to each other until very late in the game when there's no other choice. The season was only halfway through so they could have still gone forward as allies for a long time... or at least pretending to be allies to each other (since they actually did not vote the persons they had agreed to evan before this.) But Ben took his chances, backstabbed his ally, and it paid off: he managed to evict a person who would probably have been of the toughest competitiors for him. The reason Ben gave was simply that he likes Annika better.

Tanja - voted to evict Salar. Frankly, I wasn't sure what Tanja would do here. One one hand, Tanja has had a clash with Mikael and she thinks both Annika and Mikael have given her nomination points (which is actually true for Mikael but not for Annika.) On the other hand, Tanja and Janica are friends, and Janica and Annika used to have this mutual dislike throughout the season which culminated on the Heaven and Hell week. However, J&A have since made up (they had a long discussion in the Nest) and are now actually in good terms with each other. It seems, though, that Tanja doesn't hold grudges. She explained her choice by wanting to apologize to Annika for something she did earlier. (Possibly for exchanging Mikael in her place when she won the lifeline competition.)

Janica - voted to evict Annika. Even though the two have made up, Janica has had this long-standing dislike for Annika ever since the beginning of the season. It started back when Annika and Mikael began their relationship. Janica felt she was kind of robbed of Mikael's friendship and company. Salar, on the other hand, was one of the guys Janica thought could even win the whole thing, and Janica likes him and has even got intimate with him (although not as intimate as Veera!) So it wasn't a too difficult choice for her.

Sebastian - voted to evict Annika. Sebastian is a close friend of Janica and may therefore be a bit blind or partial in the whole conflict thing between Janica and Annika (where he has acted both as a mediator and as a snitch.) In his view, Annika has been behaving in a really inappropriate and nasty way towards Janica, talking trash behind her back and agitating the other housemates against her. However, Sebastian hasn't seen Janica's diary room clips and is therefore probably unaware of the extent of Janica's original dislike towards Annika and doesn't know about the disparaging and contemptful words and turns of phrases she has been using about her. He maybe also doesn't have a full picture of Janica's provocative actions and choices where she has specifically targeted Annika just for the sheer heck of it. Sebastian has been delighted of them making up, though. The actual reason Sebastian gave for wanting to evict Annika was that Salar needs to learn about himself a bit more, and if Salar now has to leave the house, he will lose that chance of becoming a better person. (Salar has been Sebastian's "pet project" in the house: a curious person whose thinking and morals he would like to learn to understand and possibly change; make Salar see the error of his ways. Sebastian and Salar are very different persons but they kind of got close to understanding each other in the end and consider themselves friends.)

I would never have thought Annika stood a snowball's chance in hell against Salar in an internal eviction vote but it was a pleasant surprise she was saved.

On one hand, Salar leaving the season this early is a loss, as he was a person who brought lots of action to the house. On the other hand, he must be a very draining person to deal with on a daily basis. His eviction now leaves a lot more breathing room for the other housemates... who will perhaps be able to show some new sides of themselves and consume that space in unexpected ways.

But this was a wake-up call for Annika: finding out she was one of the two persons who the public wants out of the house the most is definitely not the easiest position to be in! What Annika does not know, of course, is that this year, during the normal eviction votes, the viewers only have plus votes (votes to save) at their disposal, and there are no minus votes (votes to evict). So even though Annika now got a glimpse of the negative feelings directed towards her, it's only the positive votes which will count in a "normal" eviction. Fortunately, she has lots of supporters as well, not only haters. The opinions are kind of divided.

To be honest, Annika is not a bad person, in my opinion. She's just sometimes a bit thoughtless and she can easily get carried away when something good or bad happens. She's the kind of person who has strong feelings and emotive responses to both positive and negative things and she has openly admitted this being one of her weaknesses: she has said she would like to be in a better control of her emotions. She might have a couple of annoying habits, but most of us have. Much of the Annika-hatred among the Finnish anti-fans of her is out of proportion, and I think some people may really have misunderstood her a bit. She may have done a couple of stupid things during the season - and she has definitely erred on the side of being overly negative about some things - but all these incidents are quite on par with Janica's doings... and Ben's and Salar's doings are off the scale when compared to either of them! Annika is not my top favorite but I kind of like her and hope her all the best.

The most important thing is, she has made up with Janica (and mind you, Janica was every bit as guilty in this dispute as Annika, if not even the instigator - and in the end, it was Annika who appeared to be the more conciliatory party). And she now seems to be wanting to process this thing - having found out quite a bit of people in the outside world would want to her be evicted. She has had some thoughtful discussions with both Sebastian and Suvi about her personality and how other people might view or read her actions and what could be done about it, already on the same Sunday night Salar left the house. Maybe she'll try and make some adjustments, maybe she'll fail at that, but I'm nonetheless glad she survived the duel with Salar.

Since Salar's scheming antics have mostly gone unnoticed inside the house (as the housemates do not have the same fly-on-the-wall or bird's-eye view to the events as the 24/7 viewers and so can't get the full picture of the various things he has said and done) and since the final eviction votes cast by the housemates could honestly really have gone either way, the housemates were understandably quite shocked about Salar having to leave the house. Many of them had thought Salar would even quite possibly be among the final four and they can't really fathom why people in the outside world would have wanted him out.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 18, 2011, 01:59:48 PM
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Mountaineering. Sebastian is trying to reach Janica's make-up pouch. The housemates are not allowed to step on the bubble wrap.

The weekly task, titled "On the Top of the World", has been fairly dull this far. The housemates try to walk along the plank paths and not on the bubble wrap. They sleep in hammocks (their ordinary beds have been taken away), and take turns using the wall-climbing exercise machine located in the yard. When they're moving inside the house (walking on the plank paths), they need to form at least a four-person chain using the climbing rope.

Today, a number of mobile phones were placed in the house in various locations. They rang at random times and the housemates had to hurry up to answer them. Whoever answered the phone was presented with trivia questions about mountains and mountaineering - they could ask for help from the others. Correct answers helped them earn some canned food which was delivered in the storage room. Boring.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 19, 2011, 11:38:57 AM
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Ben has been promoted to a "mountain police" who needs to keep a watchful eye on Mikael so that he will not violate any rules any longer. (Mikael has previously slept on the floor under his hammock which is forbidden in the task rules and used non-approved settings on the wall-climbing simulator. He already got scolded for that in the diary room but now got a personal policeman to look after him as an additional punishment.) As a sign of his rank, Ben is wearing a police cap - some fantasy version, not a real Finnish police cap - and a yellow reflective vest.

Speculation about the possible exchange have been running on both keskustelut.sub.fi (http://keskustelut.sub.fi/forum/big-brother-2011/bb-2011-yleinen) (the official BBF2011 discussion forum run by the TV channel producing and broadcasting the show in Finland), and BBPlaza (http://bbplaza.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=4927) (the leading independent BB fan forum in Finland.) Google Translate may help in getting something out of the discussions for those who do not read Finnish. See here (http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fi&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fbbplaza.net%2Fforum%2Fviewtopic.php%3Ff%3D83%26t%3D4927&act=url) and here (http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fi&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fkeskustelut.sub.fi%2Fforum%2Fbig-brother-2011%2Fbb-2011-yleinen%2Fasukasvaiho-britanniaan-tapahtuu&act=url). Or maybe here (http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fi&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fbbplaza.net%2Fforum%2Findex.php&act=url) and here (http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fi&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fkeskustelut.sub.fi%2Fforum%2Fbig-brother-2011%2Fbb-2011-yleinen&act=url). Or maybe not, since machine translation from Finnish to English turns most everything fed into it into complete gobbledy-gok.

At this time, it's all still just speculation, though. There's no official word on there being an exchange this year so maybe there won't.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 19, 2011, 12:04:53 PM
A correction to the above: it's now official. There will be an exchange. (http://www.bigbrother.fi/uutiset.shtml/1414442/asukasvaihto-tulee--lisatietoa-bb-extrassa) More information will be revealed in tonight's "BB Extra" show at 7 p.m. Finnish time.

(If anyone has any information on other currently on-going BB productions where there's a speculated or already confirmed upcoming foreign exchange - which will likely take place during next week or so - please tell more about it!)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Jarskaaja on October 19, 2011, 05:23:46 PM
A housemate swap will take place with Norway.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 19, 2011, 05:25:25 PM
The destination for the housemate exchange was just revealed on tonight's "BB Extra" (a daily BB Finland talk show / magazine show broadcast on "Sub" at 7 p.m. Finnish time). The housemate exchange will take place between BB7 Finland and BB4 Norway on Friday. The housemate chosen for the exchange will be revealed tomorrow (Thursday).

BBPlaza, which is an independent Finnish BB fan forum, has traditionally opened a couple of English language threads for foreign exchanges so that fans from both exchange countries can meet and discuss, maybe ask background questions about the housemates and the events in both houses, or get translation help from each other. And just for general commentary as well, of course.

Related threads in English on BBPlaza:

Housemate swap between BB Finland 7 and BB Norway 4 (http://bbplaza.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=4944) (BBPlaza - see this thread for instructions on how to subscribe to the 24/7 live feeds and other information)
Big Brother Norway 4 - Live discussion topic (http://www.bbplaza.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=4950) (BBPlaza)
Big Brother Finland 7 - Live discussion topic (http://www.bbplaza.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=4951) (BBPlaza)

Related threads in English elsewhere:

Big Brother 7 Finland (http://forum.worldofbigbrother.com/index.php?topic=547.0) (World of Big Brother)
Big Brother 4 Norway (http://forum.worldofbigbrother.com/index.php?topic=524.0) (World of Big Brother)
Big Brother 7 Finland 2011 (http://the-site.dk/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2214) (The-site)
BigBrother Norway 2011 (http://the-site.dk/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2221) (The-site)

Related threads in Finnish on BBPlaza:

Asukasvaihto (http://www.bbplaza.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=4927) (BBPlaza)
Kuka asukasvaihtoon? (http://www.bbplaza.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=82&t=4938) (BBPlaza)
Big Brother Norja 2011 (http://www.bbplaza.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=4948) (BBPlaza)
Big Brother Norja 2011 - 24/7 keskustelu/raportointi (http://www.bbplaza.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=4953) (BBPlaza)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 20, 2011, 03:00:22 AM
Stefan is Yeti:

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A bit pointless, but that's his task. He's allowed to walk on the bubble wrap and makes lots of noise when doing that. When he's not making the life of the other housemates difficult by roaring and acting strange, he sleeps in the Nest. He also had to wake up everyone by walking into the bedroom in the wee hours and yelling.

This weekly task has been partially ruined by cold, windy weather and a hailstorm. The wall-climbing simulator, located in the yard, has been acting up as it has apparently been originally meant for indoor use only. The task has been pretty dull and boring otherwise, too. Hopefully they've got some good stuff in store for the upcoming exchange week.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 20, 2011, 04:04:28 PM
According to BB4 Norway website (http://www.tv2.no/underholdning/gkn/finsk-big-brotherdeltaker-skal-sjokkere-norge-3615375.html), Janica is going to be the Finnish exchange housemate who will be sent to Stockholm, Sweden (which is where the "Norwegian" BB house is located.) It has also been rumored Siv Anita (http://www.tv2.no/bigbrother/deltakere/siv-anita-aurstad/) would be sent from BBN to BBF.

The Finnish BB production hasn't yet confirmed any of this. They are going to officially announce the identity of both exchange housemates during tonight's "BB Extra" show at 7 p.m. Finnish time.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on October 20, 2011, 05:42:32 PM
Janica and Siv Anita are indeed the exchange HMs. Also, Pandora's Box will be opened for the 3rd time on Saturday. Viewers can also vote for Siv Anita to open it.

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Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 21, 2011, 03:29:06 AM
A couple of words about the two new guys.

Rami appears to be a straightforward, nice, generic type of guy. Still a bit quiet, but that's understandable as he's only been in the house for four days. He has shown some genuine interest in trying to get to know the original housemates better and his comments mostly seem to be reasonable.

Matti - the more muscular guy - behaves a bit like he wouldn't even want to be in the house, or at least as if he didn't want to live among the original housemates. He has said some rather impolite things to several housemates already, straight to their face, and he seems to be a bit of a health Nazi, only drinking a little and being vocally against smoking. He also doesn't seem to be too fond of any kind of tomfoolery.

Some viewers have speculated Matti would have been originally brought in for the excess purpose of annoying Salar, but since Salar was evicted just before Matti and Rami arrived, maybe his mission has been readjusted so that he'll now try to annoy everyone, on purpose. (Or maybe he just is that kind of a personality.)

In any case, if Matti doesn't change his attitude - whatever the reason for it is - he's likely to be nominated next. Many viewers suspect he'll also be evicted right away. (Both Matti and Rami have immunity this Sunday so they cannot be nominated until later.)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 21, 2011, 03:54:08 AM
Friday, Day 53/97, Week 8

05:20 - Janica was woken up by Big Brother who called her to the diary room at about 5:20 a.m. Finnish time. The other housemates were still sleeping and didn't pay much attention to the announcement. Since the housemates have been ordered to sleep in two bedrooms for the time being - one room for the women (the spare room), another for the men (the actual bedroom), Janica used the private diary room which is accessible directly from the spare room. She spent a couple of minutes there. Then she visited the spare room's private bathroom.

After a visit to the bathroom, Janica came out of the spare room and entered the living room / kitchen area. To her surprise, she found Sebastian there. He had felt the call of nature and had been visiting the main bathroom. Janica explained to him she's leaving. They hugged and had a short conversation as Janica gathered her coat and suitcase. Then she went to the door of the main diary room, was let in, and disappeared. Her journey to Big Brother Norway has now begun.

(My other updates from BBF, for the duration of the exchange week, are likely going to be posted here (http://www.bbplaza.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=4951), and I hope other users on that forum will be contributing to that thread as well.)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: OmgItsPhil on October 21, 2011, 02:01:06 PM
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Suvi, Stefan and Terhi are nominated for eviction this week.

Matti and Rami were immune and did not nominate as new housemates. Janica was immune as she is participating in the swap and Mikael was immune due to his final pass.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on October 21, 2011, 04:07:17 PM
For anyone subscribed to the BB Finland feeds and using BBViewer: the latest update has added BB Norway DC, which is included to the Finnish subscription for the duration of the swap.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: joako on October 23, 2011, 08:39:39 PM
TERHI has been evicted  ;D
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41.54% Stefan
27.00% Suvi
20.48% Terhi
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: spanish on October 23, 2011, 08:42:24 PM
Incredible, a non-close eviction!  ;D
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: World of BB on October 23, 2011, 09:02:23 PM
TERHI has been evicted  ;D

41.54% Stefan
27.00% Suvi
20.48% Terhi

So this week 10.98% of people voted for housemates not up for eviction?????
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: joako on October 23, 2011, 09:07:06 PM
TERHI has been evicted  ;D

41.54% Stefan
27.00% Suvi
20.48% Terhi


So this week 10.98% of people voted for housemates not up for eviction?????
The percentages on the website are wrong (http://www.bigbrother.fi/uutiset.shtml/1417466/terhi-haadettiin-kuudentena-talosta), and Suvi was saved by 37.00% of the votes, so 0.98% voted for housemates not up for eviction

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Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: World of BB on October 23, 2011, 09:14:37 PM
I thought either the percenatges were wrong or there had been a lot of drunk people trying to vote last week  ;D


I'm pleased Terhi is the one evicted. The directors cams seemed to have followed her everywhere these last few days. So maybe other housemates can get some airtime now.

I didn't like the way she reacted to not getting a party on her birthday. I don't recall Ben acting like that when he didn't get a birthday party.

Next one I'd like to see out is Stefan, Sebastian or Matty. Stefan is annoying and the other 2 are boring.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: joako on October 24, 2011, 01:27:20 PM
Siv Anita arrives to the house:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KphkuJ_NIt0

They speak in English in the video
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: World of BB on October 24, 2011, 04:41:57 PM
What does "Hetkinen" mean? The word has been written on the kitchen cam all day.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Jarskaaja on October 24, 2011, 10:50:16 PM
Their weekly task this week is to create TV shows. 24/7 live viewers will decide whether the task succeeds or not (there is a vote on the Katsomo stream page).

Hetkinen means "Please Stand By" which means that their weekly task TV station is off air. They did two 30 minute sessions today.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 25, 2011, 01:34:02 AM
I'm pleased Terhi is the one evicted. The directors cams seemed to have followed her everywhere these last few days. So maybe other housemates can get some airtime now.

I didn't like the way she reacted to not getting a party on her birthday. I don't recall Ben acting like that when he didn't get a birthday party.


Ben got a party all right. It's only that his birthday was celebrated in Heaven while he was in Hell. >:D They had a cake with his name on it and all...

(Actually, Ben has been ridiculed on the Finnish BB fan forums specifically for talking about his birthday so much, both before and afterwards... He never threw a tantrum about it but he was clearly disappointed and kind of expected he might get something later. As a result of all this talk about Ben's birthday party at least some of the housemates wanted to consider the Mexican-themed party Ben's birthday party which is why he was allowed to break the piñata.)

Next one I'd like to see out is Stefan, Sebastian or Matty. Stefan is annoying and the other 2 are boring.


Sebastian is not going out until the final night, I can promise that much. Even then, he might well be the last remaining HM sitting on the sofa in the empty house. (My bet for the last two housemates is on Sebastian and Janica at the moment. Unless aliens abduct him or he chokes on a carrot or something.)

BTW, during the exchange week (and even before that, but most noticeably during the exchange week and in Siv Anita's presence) Mikael has specifically targeted Sebastian when he's motor-mouthing various jabs and jokes. Sebastian has been silently ignoring it all so far, but he's not too amused any longer... and even Siv Anita has noticed not everything is OK between the two guys:

http://bbplaza.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=473691#p473691

(The grammatical errors in that transcript are theirs, not mine, for a change... as they were speaking English.)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on October 27, 2011, 02:20:58 PM
The HM swap will end on Sunday. Though I'm sure Siv Anita would love to go back home earlier. I don't know whether this was planned or a precautionary extension due to a bacteria, that has spread in the Norwegian house.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Jäck on October 27, 2011, 04:57:24 PM
The HM swap will end on Sunday. Though I'm sure Siv Anita would love to go back home earlier. I don't know whether this was planned or a precautionary extension due to a bacteria, that has spread in the Norwegian house.

Do you mean the HM's are ill or is there something wrong with the house ???

Is Siv Anita not enjoying her time with the Finnish HM's?
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on October 27, 2011, 05:08:24 PM
The HM swap will end on Sunday. Though I'm sure Siv Anita would love to go back home earlier. I don't know whether this was planned or a precautionary extension due to a bacteria, that has spread in the Norwegian house.

Do you mean the HM's are ill or is there something wrong with the house ???

Is Siv Anita not enjoying her time with the Finnish HM's?
There's a bacteria, that causes itching. Nothing more serious than that. Can't remember the name of it. Probably originated from the jacuzzi outside.

I think Siv Anita mostly just misses Andreas, otherwise she seems to enjoy her stay. Mostly. Of course she feels left alone at times, when the Finnish HMs are talking Finnish.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: World of BB on October 27, 2011, 09:46:00 PM
Do you think we are likely to get any new housemates soon?

In previous years the last housemates entered on the following days -

2010 = day 66
2009 = day 55
2008 = day 71
2007 = day 62

This year the last housemates to enter - Rami and Matti - entered on day 48, so during the last 4 years housmeates have entered later.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on October 28, 2011, 02:35:22 AM
I don't think it's likely there will be any new housemates. But then again...you never know. Kim Sainio, the head director, said in an interview they wouldn't take any housemates mid-season. Unless the arc of the script require new housemates. At the moment I don't see, it does. I'm kinda cautiously hopeful there won't be any more new housemates.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on October 28, 2011, 04:23:16 AM
Is Siv Anita not enjoying her time with the Finnish HM's?


A small update on Thursday which also touches on this subject (see the couple of previous posts as well if you haven't been following the thread):

http://bbplaza.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=475759#p475759
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: World of BB on October 28, 2011, 09:04:50 PM
Sebastian, Matti, Rami & Tanja are nominated this week.


I don't mind who goes out of these as long as it isn't Rami.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Jarskaaja on October 30, 2011, 03:31:49 PM
Siv Anita is now gone. Janica returns during the live show.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: French on October 30, 2011, 03:56:47 PM
And my Janica ? My winner of this season, where is she ? :)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: French on October 30, 2011, 03:57:08 PM
Siv Anita is now gone. Janica returns during the live show.
Oh good ;D
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: World of BB on October 30, 2011, 04:20:22 PM
Why was Matti automatically nominated? The official site says rule breaking - what did he do?

Also, who do you think will go tonight. I think we will lose one of the new boys.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Jäck on October 30, 2011, 04:22:06 PM
Matt out please...
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: joako on October 30, 2011, 06:03:35 PM
Why was Matti automatically nominated? The official site says rule breaking - what did he do?

Also, who do you think will go tonight. I think we will lose one of the new boys.
According to different news from the official website, he was nominated because he talked about the outside

http://www.bigbrother.fi/uutiset.shtml/1421552/matti-suoraan-haatoaanestykseen--muut-yllattyivat
http://www.bigbrother.fi/uutiset.shtml/1421249/matti-mokasi--puhui-kielletysta-aiheesta

But I guess our Finnish friends can explain this better
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: joako on October 30, 2011, 08:29:23 PM
MATTI has been evicted tonight
(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/uutiset/vko9/1249145-max468x468.jpg)
(http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/4971/mattievicted.png)

33.16% Sebastian
25.32% Tanja
24.57% Rami
16.72% Matti

Also Janica returned to the house during the live show

(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/uutiset/vko9/1249108-max468x468.jpg)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on October 30, 2011, 08:38:42 PM
And tomorrow a new HM will enter. Possibly a celebrity, the hostesses said the new HM will make mouths drop.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Jäck on October 30, 2011, 09:02:14 PM
Yes! Matti is out of there ;D
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: French on October 30, 2011, 09:07:22 PM
MATTI OUT ;D, JANICA IN :)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: French on October 31, 2011, 12:31:06 AM
Mikael is finalist ?
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: World of BB on October 31, 2011, 12:40:58 AM
Mikael is finalist ?

Not quite. He's guaranteed to be through to the final week, but not guaranteed to be through to the final day.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: joako on October 31, 2011, 01:05:11 PM
NETTA, who was evicted by Ben in the first weeks, was chosen by the producers to return to the house as a full housemate

(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/asukkaat/1200141-max468x468.jpg)
(http://bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/uutiset/vko10/1250603-max468x468.jpg)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: JohnBigOz on October 31, 2011, 09:18:43 PM
Why does it state that they've been "ejected" on the wiki page if it's a housemate eviction, :| and Norway is a complete mess  ::) so frustrating, it's always [fullname] [first letter of surname] not the other way round!
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on November 01, 2011, 01:38:09 AM
Why was Matti automatically nominated? The official site says rule breaking - what did he do?

Also, who do you think will go tonight. I think we will lose one of the new boys.
According to different news from the official website, he was nominated because he talked about the outside

[url]http://www.bigbrother.fi/uutiset.shtml/1421552/matti-suoraan-haatoaanestykseen--muut-yllattyivat[/url]
[url]http://www.bigbrother.fi/uutiset.shtml/1421249/matti-mokasi--puhui-kielletysta-aiheesta[/url]

But I guess our Finnish friends can explain this better


He slipped that Juno (the rap artist guy who Amanda had been seeing outside before entering the house) had been in the headlines because of his connection to Amanda.

I'm pretty sure Matti never actually applied for the show (he didn't seem particularly excited about being there and I never heard any explanation or motivation for why he would have applied in the first place) but was probably invited to stir up things for a few weeks... probably originally because of his pumped up body and because they wanted him to target Salar... but had to change their plans and make his role more generic as Salar was evicted on the same night he entered the house. They probably lured him in by offering better money for his services than the meager compensation the regular housemates get.

While he was still in the house, Matti kept stating his direct "personal opinions" about the other housemates... usually in a somewhat rude and unexpectedly frank way. Many of the housemates got offended about this, but the things he said actually sounded more like direct hints on what the viewers in general consider the main weaknesses of the original housemates. I find it hard to believe Matti would have been allowed to do that if he were an ordinary intruder who has just applied for the show the regular way and entered the house without being instructed to do that.

Also, he's a classic body builder and participates in competitions. BBF is not really an inviting environment for someone like him. He had no chance of exercising properly (there's no gym in the house) and he didn't get enough food, much less the proper kind of food. It's impossible to maintain your muscle mass there and he was hungry most of the time. It would seem odd of anyone with a serious interest in body building actually wanting to come there in the first place, except for a few weeks, and with a proper compensation.

I'm not saying Matti couldn't have stayed as a regular housemate for as long as he wouldn't be nominated and voted out of the house by the viewers. Maybe he could have changed his status and behavior to a regular housemate later on if he wanted to, after his initial "stir-up time" was up. But as it is, for these first couple of weeks, I think he was just planted there by the production and never had a genuine desire to actually remain in the house... and he probably got special guidance and instructions in the confession room on how to behave towards the other housemates. He enjoyed some parts of his stay (the "Slaves to TV" weekly task, interaction with the Norwegian exchange housemate Siv Anita), but otherwise, it was probably just a one-of-a-kind type work assignment for him, and scripted in such way he'll be the likely evictee, anyway (because of the rude remarks he had to make), or it was assumed he'll be leaving voluntarily. The BBF house actually had shortage of food during most of his stay as if to test his limits.

That's my tin-foil hat theory anyway... as too many things about Matti smell a bit fishy.

Rami, who entered the house at the same time as Matti, was likely brought in for a similar purpose: to stir up things a bit and to balance things out by undermining Salar's strong position and status in the house... even though that was not meant to be as Salar was then evicted. Once Rami got in, he has also been making similar very direct assessments of the weaknessess of the original housemates, directly to their face... maybe less so than Matti, but still... so it seems both Matti and Rami had the same initial task and guidance from the confession room. But Rami appears to have had more motivation for actually staying in the house, and he has maybe said his opinions in a bit more rounded way. Also, if Rami loses some of his muscle mass in the house it's probably not going to be that big a deal for him as it would have been for Matti.

So whatever scripted secrets there are about Matti and Rami - never to be revealed to the viewers - and whichever way these two guys originally got on the show, Rami has been the one who has been behaving a bit more like someone who is genuinely motivated to remain there and who might even had sent in an application himself.

(24/7 viewers already know both Oskar and Janica never applied for the show on their own initiative but were invited by the producers. They're not supposed to reveal these things but they've both said it aloud in the house. It's likely at least Janica gets compensated for her stay better than an average housemate since otherwise it wouldn't really make economical sense for her as a separated mother with two kids. Getting some special compensation would also easily explain her willingness to put on... ahem... a personally involving show at times. Not to say Janica wouldn't be an interesting person and a good choice for a housemate.)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on November 01, 2011, 10:25:10 AM
According to a recently posted news article on the official website (http://www.bigbrother.fi/uutiset.shtml/1424454/tata-asukkaat-eivat-tieda-big-brotherin-kausi-on-pidempi-kuin-koskaan), BBF 2011 will last unexpected 104 days instead of the usual 97 days. So this will be the longest BBF season so far.

The housemates are well aware of the length of the previous seasons. They have calculated this season will probably end on 4th December 2011. In reality, it will end on 11th December 2011. The extended length will probably mess their minds up a bit once we get that far. (Yesterday, they were just talking about how many weeks they still have left.)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on November 02, 2011, 12:51:14 PM
Some updates:

http://bbplaza.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=479952#p479952

You can get the rest of the season (Finnish 24/7 live feeds) for a reduced price now: 20 euros. The final night is on December 11th. See here:

http://katsomo.fi/?progId=74708&cmp=bb247_nostokuvat
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: World of BB on November 02, 2011, 04:00:45 PM
I've always wanted to see a Big Brother where the housemates believe it is the final but actually there is another week to go. I hope they do it right and during the final week re-create the conditions exactly to make them think it is the final.

Netta must be the final housemate then as they waited until she entered before revealing this twist to the public. It would ruin the whole twist if they had more housemates to put in that already new this secret.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on November 02, 2011, 06:56:05 PM
Mikael's and Annika's housewarming party has just begun in their "apartment" (the extra room). They're allowed to use Spotify for playing music.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: OmgItsPhil on November 04, 2011, 04:00:27 AM
(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/uutiset/vko10/1254683-max468x468.jpg)

Annika is pregnant! :)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on November 04, 2011, 04:15:36 AM
Some updates from the last few days:

During Mikael's and Annika's housewarming party, the new female housemate, Netta, pretty much revealed to Annika she knows Ben has been talking crap about her in her absence, trying to make himself look like an innocent victim and Netta like a seducer.

Revealing this was a bad move, though, as Netta gave the impression she had been studying these events while she was out of the house. And sure enough, Netta got a "You're breaking the rules" announcement and was soon called to the diary room for a reprimand. Last time something like this happened, it was Matti who slipped something about the world outside the house and got punished by being automatically nominated.

(Netta is actually an old "housemate candidate" from the third week of this season when Ben had a "harem" of four girls to keep company to him in the otherwise empty house. The girls needed to impress him, and he had to promote one of them to an actual housemate by the end of the week. Ben eventually chose Veera to stay in the house. Netta and the two other girls had to leave.

Some video clips on Ben's and Netta's first night were shown to the other housemates. This made Amanda - a housemate who is now evicted but who used to sleep, kiss and cuddle with Ben - feel hurt and cheated, especially as Ben had earlier said he's not a "player" anymore and has romantic feelings for Amanda.

When Ben and Amanda had a discussion about the video clips, Ben lied to her nothing really happened and he was just covering his private parts with his hands all night, trying to defend himself from Netta's sexually aggressive behavior. Amanda didn't really buy the explanation. But apparently her need for a cuddling partner was greater than the need to drive Ben away from her so she didn't, and they pretty much carried on with their cuddling routine until Amanda was evicted.)

Scheming has mostly been on hold in the BBF house since Salar was evicted. It looks like Netta is currently trying to revive it and she is interested in joining a voting alliance if there is one. She actually mentioned this to Annika in a veiled language but I'm not sure if Annika ever understood what she meant.

Since Netta apparently may hold some grudges against Ben - even though she denied this when Ben asked about it - it is possible she will try to take her revenge on him in one way or the other.

During the party, Netta expressed her interest in Rami to several people, including Rami himself. But Rami was then seen discussing with Suvi and hugging and cuddling with her later on, and he slept almost spooning with Veera, with his arm around her... so "it's complicated": Rami has three women in the house to choose from. Maybe even four if Janica would be interested at some point.

Netta has actually been going through the housemates one by one, telling them nice things they want to hear. She even said to Annika she's never going to nominate her. So she seems to be a tactical-minded housemate who is playing the game very actively right now. It will be interesting to see how she will nominate when she gets the first chance to do that.

The party was pretty lively in other respects as well... but it was interesting to see that Netta is definitely up to something.

The day following the party night (Thursday), Annika was called to the confession room. Moments later, she returned with a big fake belly, laughing. She's now pregnant and can't drink or smoke. Annika and Mikael are not sure when the baby is due. Mikael also said he's not actually sure if he is the father and suggested maybe they should do an abortion. Sebastian didn't like that idea, though.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: World of BB on November 04, 2011, 06:25:56 PM
Annika, Ben, Janica, Stefan and Suvi are nominated.

Annika and Suvi were automatically nominated by Big Brother for failing this weeks task. Ben, Janica, Suvi and Tanja were nominated by the housemates. Tanja won the lifeline competition, saved herself and nominated Stefan.

I would like to see Stefan go this time, but I know thats unlikely. As long as Ben doesn't go I don't mind anyone else going.

(http://worldofbigbrother.com/BB/Fin/7/pics/Nominations09.jpg)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: French on November 04, 2011, 11:05:31 PM
Mikael is finalist ?

Not quite. He's guaranteed to be through to the final week, but not guaranteed to be through to the final day.
Oh okay. Thanks for your answer.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: GrahamUKFan on November 06, 2011, 01:48:50 AM
wow I just realize that the girls in finland seem to like leopard-stripped dresses. they look so trashy  :P
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: joako on November 06, 2011, 08:32:06 PM
STEFAN has been evicted  ;D

(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/uutiset/vko10/taru_su/1256928-max468x468.jpg)
(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/uutiset/vko10/1256935-max468x468.jpg)
(http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/5114/stefanout.png)

21.91% Janica
21.02% Annika
19.89% Suvi
18.73% Ben
17.54% Stefan
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Depths of Bloomfield on November 06, 2011, 08:45:31 PM
Good  :D
(http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lj1mmabLJA1qic8gao1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Jäck on November 06, 2011, 10:56:51 PM
The female cast must be quite strong this year, all 3 of them were top of the voting :)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: World of BB on November 06, 2011, 11:02:07 PM
Very surprised at this result as I got the impression that Stefan was popular with the Finnish public.

There was less than 5% between 1st and 5th, there have been a lot of close votes this year.

Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on November 07, 2011, 05:03:59 AM
wow I just realize that the girls in finland seem to like leopard-stripped dresses. they look so trashy  :P


I think Veera has a beanie hat like that (I can't explain it, maybe she's a big fan of Mobutu Sese Seko or something) and Suvi often wears a loose jumpsuit like that (I don't get that either.)

I'd say that pattern is considered trashy in Finland too but it kind of fits Suvi just because of that. You should be glad if you don't know any Finnish, see here (http://the-site.dk/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=39523#p39523) for her favorite discussion topics. ;)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on November 07, 2011, 05:21:23 AM
The female cast must be quite strong this year, all 3 of them were top of the voting :)

Or maybe it's just that the males in that vote had both been found out to be a bit... wanting, in many respects.

Very surprised at this result as I got the impression that Stefan was popular with the Finnish public.

At the beginning of the season, he was nearly voted straight to the final week instead of Mikael. Then we found out he's a bit simple, big man who is particularly fond of young female housemates (maybe to a creep-inducing degree), keeps taunting the older ones for his personal entertainment, has a LOUD VOICE and a tendency to keep repeatedly shouting people's names and phrases like "You know what?" especially when drunk, and his speech is often nearly incomprehensible because of mumbling or growling. And while he could be funny or even likable at times, towards the end of his stay in the house he was most often just somewhat stubborn and annoying.

There was less than 5% between 1st and 5th, there have been a lot of close votes this year.

They keep showing the intermediate results all the time so people will always vote mainly for the last two positions (or so) for saving their favorites and the bars will even out as the eviction show progresses.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on November 07, 2011, 05:23:10 AM
Some recent updates and background information on the events in the BBF house:

http://the-site.dk/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2214&start=1120

(See previous pages in that thread as well.)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on November 07, 2011, 01:12:29 PM
Mikael, who won the free ticket to the final week, is up for eviction this week. He moved during the "Freeze"-task they've been having for over a week now. BB made the task a bit more difficult. They are now bringing in people close to the HMs.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: carlex on November 07, 2011, 03:56:41 PM
Mikael, who won the free ticket to the final week, is up for eviction this week. He moved during the "Freeze"-task they've been having for over a week now. BB made the task a bit more difficult. They are now bringing in people close to the HMs.

wow.. that's so hard! :)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on November 07, 2011, 05:16:13 PM
Mikael, who won the free ticket to the final week, is up for eviction this week. He moved during the "Freeze"-task they've been having for over a week now. BB made the task a bit more difficult. They are now bringing in people close to the HMs.

wow.. that's so hard! :)
Yeah. So far Janica's friend, Mikael's friend and Netta's sister have visited.

The weekly task this week is a bit similar to what BB Norway had. The HMs have to gain weight. From a total of 726,2 kg to 750 kg.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: World of BB on November 07, 2011, 06:34:36 PM
How can someone with a free pass to the final be up for eviction? Either he has a free pass to the final or he doesn't. If he is evicted does he stay in the house until the final or does he come back for the final?

I did think that when they gave him the free pass they would find a way to take it away from him before the final. The surprising thing is that it took them so long.

I hope that the public will keep him in out of principle.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on November 07, 2011, 07:37:13 PM
The same rules apply to Mikael as to anyone else. If he breaks any rule, BB can nominate him. Or even eject him, if necessary. This was told repeatedly, while the final week voting was on. He just can't be nominated by the other HMs.

Elina Viitanen, the hostess of Extra and co-hostess of Sunday live shows, entered the house today during Extra. She's in there until further notice. She won't be in for long, possibly for this week. It seems like Extra will be done in the extra room. Elina has a bed named for her in the main bedroom.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: World of BB on November 07, 2011, 08:05:56 PM
But I think there is a huge difference between breaking the rules and failing a task.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on November 07, 2011, 09:09:58 PM
But I think there is a huge difference between breaking the rules and failing a task.
Doesn't really matter. For at least two reasons. Mikael probably deliberately lost the task. Big Brother reserves the right to change the rules. Thus, in some way Mikael broke the rules. Mikael won't be evicted anyway. That's the other reason, why it doesn't matter.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Jarskaaja on November 08, 2011, 09:46:44 AM
Sebastian just failed on purpose when his sister entered the house. He will be the second one to be up for eviction this week.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on November 09, 2011, 10:53:11 AM
Suvi today violated the rules of the Freeze-task, when her best friend visited.

So, thus far Mikael, Sebastian and Suvi will be up for eviction.

Yesterday there was a stripshow. 2 female strippers and a very known malestripper/porn actor performed. The HMs had a designated area, where to sit. Sebastian sat his back facing the stage. He doesn't like the idea of love being commercialized like that. Elina's first reaction was to try to comfort him, but he just pushed her away. Later he told Elina, that at that moment he thought it would be hypocritical for a representative of the procuction to do so. While Elina still is a part of the production, she's also a HM. Albeit a visiting HM, but still the same house rules apply to her as any other HM.

Elina is still hosting Extra while in the house. At least yesterday Extra was broadcasted live from the DR.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: carlex on November 09, 2011, 06:00:09 PM
Suvi today violated the rules of the Freeze-task, when her best friend visited.

So, thus far Mikael, Sebastian and Suvi will be up for eviction.

Yesterday there was a stripshow. 2 female strippers and a very known malestripper/porn actor performed. The HMs had a designated area, where to sit. Sebastian sat his back facing the stage. He doesn't like the idea of love being commercialized like that. Elina's first reaction was to try to comfort him, but he just pushed her away. Later he told Elina, that at that moment he thought it would be hypocritical for a representative of the procuction to do so. While Elina still is a part of the production, she's also a HM. Albeit a visiting HM, but still the same house rules apply to her as any other HM.

Elina is still hosting Extra while in the house. At least yesterday Extra was broadcasted live from the DR.

ohh??!! :o :o he did it to the host?.. or at least to someone who's on the production?.. haha.. i'm speechless... :)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: World of BB on November 09, 2011, 06:32:30 PM
I could be wrong, but I don't think Elina is a housemate, I think she's just a guest.

I have been very critical of Sebastian in the past, but I was watching the live feed yesterday during the strip show and had a lot of sympathy for him. Big Brother should have respected his religious beliefs and not forced him to be present during a strip show.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: carlex on November 09, 2011, 06:45:51 PM
oh i see.. :)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on November 10, 2011, 09:41:33 AM
I could be wrong, but I don't think Elina is a housemate, I think she's just a guest.

I have been very critical of Sebastian in the past, but I was watching the live feed yesterday during the strip show and had a lot of sympathy for him. Big Brother should have respected his religious beliefs and not forced him to be present during a strip show.
They are addressing Elina as a housemate, including Big Brother. Though at the same time she's still working. Doesn't matter though, as everyone knows the deal. And Elina is not quite as equal as the other HMs, she is using the bathroom in the extra room. No-one else is allowed to enter the room.

Sebastian did apologize to Elina for his strong reaction. And Elina agreed with Sebastian, that a line was crossed during the stripshow. Not sure if she meant the stripper, who tried to give a personal dance for Sebastian. Or the whole night.

Also, an update to the Freeze-task. Today friends of Rami and Annika visited (so far). Annika failed to stand still, therefore she's the 4th HM to be up for eviction this week.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on November 11, 2011, 06:23:27 AM
Sebastian did apologize to Elina for his strong reaction. And Elina agreed with Sebastian, that a line was crossed during the stripshow. Not sure if she meant the stripper, who tried to give a personal dance for Sebastian. Or the whole night.


Here's a bit more about that:

http://the-site.dk/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=39757#p39757

And here's the incident and Sebastian's reaction to it (halfway into the show), and immediately after the strip show the scene with Sebastian and crying Elina in the bedroom:

www.bigbrother.fi/videot.shtml/1430145/big-brother

Honestly, I would not have thought someone from production would be crying in the house already on her second day... but it just goes to show the pressure and emotions there really do run high.

Also, an update to the Freeze-task. Today friends of Rami and Annika visited (so far). Annika failed to stand still, therefore she's the 4th HM to be up for eviction this week.


Veera is also nominated for the same reason. I think she's the likely evictee of these five. (Sebastian, Mikael, Annika, Suvi, Veera.)

In case you didn't see Janica during the "freeze" task when her friend visited the house, check it out here (quite an emotional moment):

http://the-site.dk/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=39672#p39672
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on November 11, 2011, 05:34:09 PM
As said before Mikael, Annika, Sebastian, Suvi and Veera are up for eviction. This week it's a double-eviction.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Danny on November 11, 2011, 05:44:57 PM
I assume Veera & Suvi/or Annika will be out then ?
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: World of BB on November 11, 2011, 09:11:39 PM
I assume Veera & Suvi/or Annika will be out then ?

Our friends from Finland have said that Mikael is going nowhere on Sunday and Sebastian is unlikely to be evicted before the final, so it looks like it will be 2 of Annika, Suvi or Veera evicted on Sunday.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on November 11, 2011, 09:42:33 PM
I assume Veera & Suvi/or Annika will be out then ?

Our friends from Finland have said that Mikael is going nowhere on Sunday and Sebastian is unlikely to be evicted before the final, so it looks like it will be 2 of Annika, Suvi or Veera evicted on Sunday.
I'm guessing Veera and Suvi. Seems like for some reason Annika has a lot of people voting for her. The first graphics showed Mikael and Veera going, but this was shown about 5 minutes after the voting started. It's likely to change before Sunday's live show.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: World of BB on November 11, 2011, 10:55:24 PM
They all went to bed early today. Friday night and no party :(

The thing that got me hooked on BB Finland in the early years was the parties, with all the housemates getting drunk almost every night and getting up to crazy things.

This year's housemates have been a lot more boring. It's rare that they go in the pool and sauna more than once a week, they seem to spend most of the time in bed. I want the old Big Brother Finland back please.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on November 13, 2011, 10:38:24 AM
I assume Veera & Suvi/or Annika will be out then ?

Our friends from Finland have said that Mikael is going nowhere on Sunday and Sebastian is unlikely to be evicted before the final, so it looks like it will be 2 of Annika, Suvi or Veera evicted on Sunday.

Sebastian will remain until the final night unless he walks out voluntarily. Veera is almost guaranteed to go home tonight. She's been quite far from the center of attention since the aftermath of the harem week and Salar's departure. It's hard to see how she could have gathered too many fans as she has lately been relatively invisible.

It is going to be interesting to see how Mikael will fare. His popularity hasn't been tested since the second week. Some viewers don't like it how he's been treating Tanja with some sort of contempt, constantly giving her his two points just because he does not like her style of self-expression - or maybe because they're both the unlikely "closet intellectuals" of the house and Mikael finds Tanja a threat in that regard on some unconscious level? There have also been voices condemning his (and Ben's) over-eager attempts at impressing Elina. Another thing about Mikael is he never wants to discuss anything serious but insists on avoiding "needless blathering": in fact, he has flat out said he can't stand any deeper discussion about emotions and feelings, at least not while they're in the house. Annika has resigned to waiting for the answers till they're both out of the house. Mikael can be pretty mysterious and reluctant of talking about many things. (This puts some strain on their in-house relationship, though, as it's quite hard to get any direct answers out of him.)

Annika is one of those housemates who divides opinions the most this season. She seems to have a significant number of supporters (who admit she has some issues but overall like her as a person) but also a lot of haters (who can't stand anything about her). Since it seems her main "adversary" as far as the fanbase goes is Janica (who is not nominated this time) and since there are no minus votes, and also since Annika has been quite popular in the earlier votes, she has a pretty good chance of remaining in the house but it's not guaranteed.

Many viewers do like Suvi as a honest (in her opinions) and emphatetic person even though they find she's far too open and frank about every morbid detail of her sex life, female ailments and family matters. Lately she's been complaining a lot about headaches, strained ankle and whatnot and we have also found out she can have emotional breakdowns about both hearing (but not being able to dance to it) and not hearing music in the house. There's clearly a segment of viewers who like Suvi the most but she still might be going home tonight.

Since the eviction show is based on milking votes with misleading and manipulative (and some suspect all fake) intermediate voting results bar charts, it is always possible that someone who had initially gathered fairly many votes and an impressively tall support bar may eventually end up falling behind the others and evicted just because his or her fans stopped voting too early, thinking their favorite was safe. So there's potential of it becoming an interesting battle between Mikael, Annika and Suvi. The result that seems the most likely to me is Veera and Suvi going out but I'm not counting out surprises.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on November 13, 2011, 12:35:49 PM
This year's housemates have been a lot more boring. It's rare that they go in the pool and sauna more than once a week, they seem to spend most of the time in bed. I want the old Big Brother Finland back please.

This year, the producers (and a loud segment of fans) wanted more mature and diverse housemates, for a change. A couple of previous seasons were seen as having featured far too many 18-to-22-year-old party-oriented kids, some of them embarrassingly airheaded or just boring and shallow as persons.

I think the casting for this season was OK, save for a couple of misses plus the unfortunate "escape" of Tia and too early eviction of Oskar. But the overall chemistry of the housemates, as a group, is always going to be an enigma until the season starts, and it maybe hasn't been the best one this year. Also, this year has seen a record number of a bit dull in-house pairings (Mikael+Annika, Ben+Amanda, Salar+Veera) which have probably just helped stagnate the interactions between the HMs instead of making them more dynamic.

What is more, BB has been focusing (too much of?) his attention on the pairs and relationships. Many of the tasks (and even parties!) have been designed around the idea of built-in inequality, to create factions, discord and friction between the HMs... but that's getting a bit old and overdone by now. In whole, I think the season has been interesting but somewhat strained and tedious to watch as well. There's a lack of genuinely lighthearted, innocent, happy, sweet interaction between the HMs when compared to some of the previous seasons. This is a darker season where everything is a bit difficult and nerve-wrecking. Also - this being already the seventh season - many of the housemates are painfully aware of the pecularities and internal mechanics of the format and they are often able to predict future events all too well... even though this production has gone through some troubles to ensure at least some of their most obvious predictions are going to fail.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: OmgItsPhil on November 13, 2011, 07:29:06 PM
The results of the voting situation have been revealed at various times over the weekend, and throughout the live show.

(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/uutiset/vko11/1261757-max468x468.jpg)

On Friday at 19:27pm, the voting was - Annika, Sebastian, Suvi, Mikael, Veera.

Sunday 21:05pm - Annika, Mikael, Sebastian, Suvi, Veera.

Sunday 21:21pm - Sebastian, Annika, Mikael, Suvi, Veera.

Sunday 21:27pm - Sebastian, Suvi, Annika, Mikael, Veera.

Sunday 21:40pm - Suvi, Mikael, Sebastian, Annika, Veera.

Sunday 21:47pm - Sebastian, Annika, Suvi, Mikael, Veera.

Sunday 22:01pm - Sebastian, Mikael, Suvi, Annika, Veera.

Sunday 22:07pm - Sebastian, Suvi, Mikael, Annika, Veera.

Sunday 22:07pm - Sebastian, Mikael, Suvi, Annika, Veera.

Sunday 22:07pm - Suvi, Sebastian, Annika, Mikael, Veera.

The lines are now closed.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: OmgItsPhil on November 13, 2011, 08:29:29 PM
(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/asukkaat/1263212-max468x468.jpg)
(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/uutiset/vko11/1263319-max468x468.jpg)
(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/uutiset/vko11/1263320-max468x468.jpg)

Veera and Annika are the twelfth and thirteenth housemates to be evicted from the house.

Also tonight it was announced that the runner-up of the show will receive prize money as well as the winner.

Sebastian - 25.2%
Michael - 24.81%
Suvi - 23.67%
Annika - 20.8%
Veera - 5.2%

Discounted Votes - 0.32%
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: AlexSP on November 13, 2011, 08:37:47 PM
Oooh, Annika was one of my favourite housemates  :'(
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: OmgItsPhil on November 13, 2011, 08:39:44 PM
For next week's eviction, the public will nominate and the three with the lowest votes will face eviction from the housemates. The public vote to nominate will begin on Monday.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BigBrotherFan on November 13, 2011, 08:44:46 PM
I really like Annika  :'(
Now I want Janica to win!
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Depths of Bloomfield on November 13, 2011, 08:48:48 PM
Annika was my favorite housemate  :(
What is this? First Mari Angeles, later Fernanda and now Annika, this is my bad luck week  >:(.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: AlexSP on November 13, 2011, 08:49:07 PM
Percentages:

Sebastian: 25,2%
Mikael: 24,81%
Suvi: 23,67%
Annika: 20,8%
Veera: 5,2%
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: OmgItsPhil on November 13, 2011, 08:59:46 PM
I think it will be hard to call which three will be nominated by the public. If it was a vote to save it would be pretty obvious Netta would be nominate, but as it's a vote to nominated I'm leaning towards Ben and Janica and someone else.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: World of BB on November 13, 2011, 09:06:29 PM
Assuming Mikael is immune and Sebastian has no chance of being nominated by the public, that leaves 3 out of 6 housemates - Ben, Janica, Neeta, Rami, Suvi & Tanja.

My prediction will be Ben, Rami and Tanja.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on November 13, 2011, 09:08:46 PM
Assuming Mikael is immune and Sebastian has no chance of being nominated by the public, that leaves 3 out of 6 housemates - Ben, Janica, Neeta, Rami, Suvi & Tanja.

My prediction will be Ben, Rami and Tanja.
Mikael is back to being immune. I think Netta will be one of the 3. Can't really make any predictions at this point. Other than Sebastian being definately safe.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Jarskaaja on November 13, 2011, 10:35:27 PM
I think it will be hard to call which three will be nominated by the public. If it was a vote to save it would be pretty obvious Netta would be nominate, but as it's a vote to nominated I'm leaning towards Ben and Janica and someone else.
It is a vote to save this time. The three with the least amount of votes get nominated for eviction.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: OmgItsPhil on November 14, 2011, 07:15:15 AM
I think it will be hard to call which three will be nominated by the public. If it was a vote to save it would be pretty obvious Netta would be nominate, but as it's a vote to nominated I'm leaning towards Ben and Janica and someone else.
It is a vote to save this time. The three with the least amount of votes get nominated for eviction.

Oh right, thanks.  :)

Then I think Netta is definitely in danger.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: OmgItsPhil on November 14, 2011, 05:08:32 PM
(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/uutiset/vko12/1263974-max468x468.jpg)

Today the public began to vote to save their favourite housemate. The three with the least votes will be nominated.

The current bottom three are Suvi, Tanja and Netta.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on November 20, 2011, 04:09:27 PM
Rules for eviction voting: if 2 HMs have the same amount of votes, the one with least votes will decide who of the two will be evicted. If this HM refuses to do so, the HM with least amount of public votes will be evicted. If one or more HMs refuses to vote, they will be automatically up for eviction next week. Furthermore, the votes given by the HMs will be invalidated and again the HM with least amount of public votes will be evicted.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: OmgItsPhil on November 20, 2011, 07:16:42 PM
It's the live show and as always, the website is revealing the votes.

Monday 19:28pm - Suvi, Tanjaand Netta are the bottom three.

Tuesday 19:27pm - Ben, Tanja and Netta are the bottom three.

Wednesday 19:25pm - Suvi, Ben and Netta are the bottom three.

Thursday 17:11pm - Suvi, Ben and Netta are the bottom three.

Friday 19:26pm - Suvi, Ben and Netta are the bottom three.



Sunday 21:04pm - Sebastian, Tanja, Janica, Suvi, Rami, Ben, Netta.

Sunday 21:16pm - Sebastian and Janica, Suvi, Rami, Tanja, Ben, Netta.

Sunday 22:22pm - Sebastian and Tanja, Suvi, Rami, Janica, Ben, Netta.

Sunday 21:29pm - Janica, Sebastian, Tanja, Rami, Suvi, Ben, Netta.

Sunday 21:39pm - Janica and Suvi, Sebastian, Tanja, Ben, Rami, Netta.

Sunday 21:46pm - Sebastian and Janica, Suvi, Tanja, Rami, Ben, Netta.

Sunday 21:57pm - Sebastian and Janica, Tanja, Suvi, Rami, Ben, Netta.

Sunday 21:57pm - Sebastian and Suvi, Rami, Tanja, Janica, Ben, Netta.

Sunday 22:02pm - Sebastian and Janica, Rami, Tanja, Ben, Suvi, Netta.

Sunday 22:07pm -Sebastian and Janica, Tanja, Rami, Ben, Suvi, Netta.

Sunday 22:14pm - Ben and Janica, Tanja, Suvi,  Rami, Sebastian, Netta.

Sunday 22:17pm - Sebastian and Janica, Ben, Rami, Tanja, Suvi, Netta.

Sunday 22:23pm - Sebastian and Janica, Tanja, Suvi, Ben, Rami, Netta.

Sunday 22:28pm - The lines closed and Ben, Rami and Netta are nominated for eviction.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: World of BB on November 20, 2011, 08:08:17 PM
It's not looking good for Netta. She has never been out of the bottom 3 and I think the Housemates will most likely vote for her.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on November 20, 2011, 08:25:32 PM
It's not looking good for Netta. She has never been out of the bottom 3 and I think the Housemates will most likely vote for her.
Yeah. I'd say it would be one of the biggest upsets ever, if Netta isn't evicted.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: OmgItsPhil on November 20, 2011, 08:33:21 PM
Rami has been evicted!

Janica and Mikael voted for Netta.

Suvi, Ben and Tanja voted for Rami.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on November 20, 2011, 08:42:50 PM
Tanja did say, she screwed up the vote. Too late though, the damage was already done.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: World of BB on November 20, 2011, 08:52:27 PM
Rami has been evicted!

Janica and Mikael voted for Netta.

Suvi, Ben and Tanja voted for Rami.

Do you mean Suvi, Sebastian & Tanja voted for Rami?
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: OmgItsPhil on November 20, 2011, 09:02:50 PM
Rami has been evicted!

Janica and Mikael voted for Netta.

Suvi, Ben and Tanja voted for Rami.

Do you mean Suvi, Sebastian & Tanja voted for Rami?

Oops, yes I do. Sorry, my mistake. :)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on November 20, 2011, 09:14:07 PM
BTW...Tanja's reasoning for voting Rami was, that he doesn't have any cigarettes. She probably thought everyone else would vote for Netta. And as said earlier, immadiately after giving her reasoning Tanja said she made a mistake.

Rami was more interesting than Netta. But I guess it's Netta's turn next week. It's now more than likely, that for the first time there will be no intruders in the final. Not counting season 1, as season 2 was the first with intruders.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: World of BB on November 20, 2011, 09:18:07 PM

Sunday 22:07pm -Sebastian and Janica, Tanja, Rami, Ben, Suvi, Netta.

Sunday 22:14pm - Ben and Janica, Tanja, Suvi,  Rami, Sebastian, Netta.

So the public had been voting for 7 whole days, Sebastian received the most votes and Ben was down in 5th place. Then in just 7 minutes of voting, Ben managed to get enough votes to overtake Sebastian. But not only that Janica, Tanja, Rami and Suvi got enough votes to overtake Sebastian as well - all this from just 7 minutes of voting.

So either there is only a tiny number of votes being cast or the top 6 places were very close together.

I think anyone except Netta could win Big Brother Finland 2011 with this voting format. Had today been the final and had voting closed at 22.14pm, Ben would have been crowned the winner.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: AlexSP on November 20, 2011, 09:21:43 PM
Percentages:

Sebastian: 24,69%
Suvi: 15,4%
Janica: 15,32%
Tanja: 15,02%
Ben: 14,13%
Rami: 13,44%
Netta: 1,89%
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Jäck on November 20, 2011, 09:34:35 PM
On the next Eviction show if anyone can provide a link for me please do :)

From what I've seen (and read) I want Suvi or Tanja to win. I quite liked Rami so it's a shame he left :-\
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: OmgItsPhil on November 20, 2011, 10:14:50 PM
Oh wow, there was a huge difference between Netta and Rami.

(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/uutiset/vko12/su/1269608-max468x468.jpg)

Tanja after she voted for Rami.

(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/uutiset/vko12/su/1269606-max468x468.jpg)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: World of BB on November 20, 2011, 10:20:52 PM
I don't like this voting to "not nominate". If the public are doing the nominating then they should be voting for who they want to nominate.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on November 21, 2011, 03:14:07 AM
BTW...Tanja's reasoning for voting Rami was, that he doesn't have any cigarettes. She probably thought everyone else would vote for Netta. And as said earlier, immadiately after giving her reasoning Tanja said she made a mistake.


Yes. For example, earlier she has nominated Sebastian with the reasoning she thinks no-one else will nominate him so he's going to be safe. (And she doesn't need to feel guilty about actually helping vote out somebody.)


Sunday 22:07pm -Sebastian and Janica, Tanja, Rami, Ben, Suvi, Netta.

Sunday 22:14pm - Ben and Janica, Tanja, Suvi,  Rami, Sebastian, Netta.


So the public had been voting for 7 whole days, Sebastian received the most votes and Ben was down in 5th place. Then in just 7 minutes of voting, Ben managed to get enough votes to overtake Sebastian. But not only that Janica, Tanja, Rami and Suvi got enough votes to overtake Sebastian as well - all this from just 7 minutes of voting.

So either there is only a tiny number of votes being cast or the top 6 places were very close together.


For all we know the intermediate bar charts can be faked for drama and for milking more votes. I somehow suspect they don't probably even have a direct connection from the online voting system to the graphics workstation.

Here's some number geek who has been calculating the minimum number of actual votes required for the final percentages (not for tonight's results, yet, though):

http://bbplaza.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=488952#p488952

See his previous posts to that thread as well. You may want to use Google Translate to your advantage:

http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fi&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fbbplaza.net%2Fforum%2Fviewtopic.php%3Fp%3D488952%23p488952&act=url

Edit: He has now calculated Sunday's results:
http://bbplaza.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=493051#p493051

I don't like this voting to "not nominate". If the public are doing the nominating then they should be voting for who they want to nominate.


That was done earlier this season when the public nominated Salar and Annika. I guess they just wanted a new twist this time by changing the number of nominees and the vote to save thing... so that it wouldn't look like the same "special" vote all over again.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on November 22, 2011, 03:05:39 PM
Some updates in English:

http://the-site.dk/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=40400#p40400
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on November 24, 2011, 01:51:05 AM
Janica's birthday party will take place today (Thursday). It will probably begin in the evening during the "BB Extra" live show (7 p.m. to 7:30 p.m. Finnish time) but since the schedules in BBF can be flexible I guess you'd better be checking out how things will progress from 4 p.m. onwards (or so.)

The housemates have been planning, in secrecy, some sort of a costume party with several different little events. They will also sing a song for Janica. The song will be based on the melody from a popular existing song but the lyrics have been rewritten to tell about Janica's life in Big Brother Finland - and also about her exchange week in Big Brother Norway. (Janica's romantic encounter with Roberto will feature in the lyrics.) BB has promised to arrange a keyboard (an electric piano / synthesizer) for Sebastian and a trumpet for Mikael so they can accompany the singing. They've played those instruments back in their normal life.

BB has also promised Sebastian and Mikael will get some time to practice playing the song together before the actual performance... so if you want to catch this, it could happen any time after they have woken up.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on November 24, 2011, 03:20:36 PM
Preparations and rehearsals for Janica's birthday party have been going on for a while now. Janica herself has been directed to the extra room where she's getting a fresh red dye on her hair. If you watch the timeshift buffer from about 1 hour 45 minutes to the past from the time of this posting, you can catch Sebastian playing various songs on a synthesizer. He's actually quite good at it.

Mikael's trumpet skills are not that good. He says he hasn't played for some years and has forgotten most of it... but he's trying.

Some songs they're going to play and sing:

Reino Helismaa - "Päivänsäde ja menninkäinen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cr0hDABHDnc)"
Zen Café - "Todella kaunis (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHT1IUY-3f4)"
Sig - "Hyvää syntymäpäivää (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlUFYICDUms)"

Roberto's video greetings and Janica's reactions will be seen during tonight's live "BB Extra" show (7 p.m. to 7:30 p.m. Finnish time.) The party will probably begin pretty soon.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on November 24, 2011, 04:07:06 PM
Final song rehearsals going on... the party will begin soon.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: joako on November 25, 2011, 06:03:49 PM
Netta, Ben and Tanja are up for eviction this week

(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/uutiset/vko13/1274293-max468x468.jpg)

So I guess antos was right, Netta will be evicted on Sunday and there won't be intruders in the final
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on November 26, 2011, 12:47:29 PM
So I guess antos was right, Netta will be evicted on Sunday and there won't be intruders in the final


BBPlaza poll on "Who would you like to save?"

http://bbplaza.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5408
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on November 26, 2011, 03:01:58 PM
The housemates will get a Night of Horrors. They just don't know that yet. (Currently, they're waiting on the patio and the rolling steel door is down, so they can't see what's going on inside the house.)

According to a news article on the official website, the bedroom has been converted into a chamber of horrors. It has also got something to do with a scary (?) granny.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on November 26, 2011, 05:31:29 PM
The housemates just finished watching "Paranormal Activity (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1179904/)".

Suvi's reactions:

(http://i44.tinypic.com/10sfxn7.jpg)
(http://i42.tinypic.com/2h4e1hy.jpg)
(http://i39.tinypic.com/2mz9vrt.jpg)

The actual scariness hasn't begun yet but it probably will soon.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on November 26, 2011, 05:48:40 PM
So I guess antos was right, Netta will be evicted on Sunday and there won't be intruders in the final


BBPlaza poll on "Who would you like to save?"

[url]http://bbplaza.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5408[/url]

I guess the actual vote could be close. And we can't really rule out any outcome. I still do think though, that Netta won't make it to the final even though she would be saved tomorrow.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on November 26, 2011, 06:34:35 PM
Suvi and Netta are together in the diary room. Big Brother ordered the other housemates into the extra room.

Apparently Suvi and Netta (who were the most frightened housemates during the horror movie they were shown earlier tonight) will get the scary night in the actual bedroom (and the rest of the house) while the others can take it easy, relax, and watch more movies and eat pizza in the extra room.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on November 26, 2011, 08:01:43 PM
(http://i43.tinypic.com/16j4pxt.jpg)
(http://i40.tinypic.com/nbowa9.jpg)

Video clips:

http://the-site.dk/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=40692#p40692
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on November 27, 2011, 09:04:34 AM
Nomination points and reasonings:

http://www.bigbrother.fi/uutiset.shtml/1448355/kuka-nimesi-kenet-katso-nimeamispisteet-ja--perustelut
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: joako on November 27, 2011, 08:28:41 PM
NETTA has been evicted
(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/uutiset/vko13/1275620-max468x468.jpg)

36.86% Tanja
30.81% Ben
30.61% Netta

(http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/6167/nettaevicted.png)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Danny on November 27, 2011, 08:33:48 PM
NETTA has been evicted

36.86% Tanja
30.81% Ben
30.61% Netta

Quite a close vote  :o
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: World of BB on November 27, 2011, 09:21:43 PM
And the number of Finnish people who are not intelligent enough to vote for one of the nominees grows to a record 1.72%.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on November 28, 2011, 07:26:14 AM
And the number of Finnish people who are not intelligent enough to vote for one of the nominees grows to a record 1.72%.


Numeric analysis on the results (minimum number of votes required for getting those percentages):

http://bbplaza.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=497191#p497191
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: World of BB on November 28, 2011, 07:13:26 PM
Presumably the housemates now think they are in the final week and that the the final is on Sunday.

The producers now need to do to the housemates all the things they would normally do to them during the final week to keep the housemates convinced. This would mean no nominations on Friday, so I presume everyone but Mikael will be automatically nominated on Friday.

Whoever the public evict should be announced as the 6th placed housemate on Sunday, and then leave the housemates totally confused when no further announcement of 5th, 4th place etc. To see how they cope with the realisation on Sunday evening that they thought they were all leaving that night but actually have another 7 days in the house could be priceless.

I hope the producers can do this right and not mess it up - it could be one of the best moments in Big Brother history.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on November 28, 2011, 09:45:58 PM
The HMs were told today, that the season will last for 2 more weeks. Although I think at least some of the HMs still think BB is tricking them and it is the final week. Nevertheless, there will be open nominations this week. So even if some of them would still mistrust Big Brother (there has been so many secrets, that the HMs don't really know what to believe anymore), the nominations will surely convince them.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on November 30, 2011, 01:42:05 PM
The HMs were told today, that the season will last for 2 more weeks. Although I think at least some of the HMs still think BB is tricking them and it is the final week.


Janica is still doubtful even today. She really wants to believe the final will be on this Sunday and the talk about it being on 11th December is all just a scam. This is partially because she had promised to her kids she'll come home on 4th December at the latest and she feels she's letting them down if she won't. The others have pretty much accepted their fate.

Suvi won the "staying in the box" competition as Janica fell asleep and didn't wake up when BB played the sound of jingle bells (which is when they were supposed to wave little flags with their profile pictures on them to indicate they're still awake and alert inside their boxes.) The prize for winning the competition was a PlayStation 3, PlayStation Move, two games, and a €1000 gift card to Pulju.net (http://pulju.net/), an online gadget/novelty store.

According to the official website the housemates will receive letters from their family and friends some time today.

Edit: Correction: There's now an article on the official website which says there has been a change in BB's plans and this will happen tomorrow.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on December 02, 2011, 06:08:31 AM
Yesterday, the housemates received letters from their family and friends:

http://the-site.dk/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=40958#p40958

Next up: open nominations in the afternoon... and likely the last such thing this season. (It will come as a surprise for the housemates. They're expecting they'd all be up for eviction this late into the season.)

Tonight, they're also going to get a pre-Christmas party and Frederik (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederik) will perform for them. (Frankly, it would probably be better if he didn't... they're really scraping the bottom of the barrel here as far as guest artists go.)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on December 02, 2011, 11:24:14 AM
Tanja, Ben and Sebastian are up for eviction this week. So it's either Ben or Tanja leaving on Sunday. Sebastian is only there to bring in more money. Also, this is the last eviction of the season. Only one of these 3 will be evicted. So, for the first time in the history of BB Finland we'll have more than 4 finalists.

Ben: Janica (2), Sebastian (1)
Mikael: Tanja (2), Suvi (1)
Sebastian: Tanja (2), Ben (1)
Janica: Ben (2), Tanja (1)
Suvi: Tanja (2), Ben (1)
Tanja: Sebastian (2), Suvi (1)


Tanja 7
Ben 4
Sebastian 3
Janica 2
Suvi 2
Mikael - immune

Tanja flipped again. Throwing her blackboard on the floor and yelling at the HMs who nominated her, that she wouldn't have wanted to stay in the house with such idiots anyway.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: GrahamUKFan on December 02, 2011, 06:26:57 PM
Tanja flipped again. Throwing her blackboard on the floor and yelling at the HMs who nominated her, that she wouldn't have wanted to stay in the house with such idiots anyway.
LOL how great - I want to see that diva in action!  :D
is she a Nikki McKibbin-like character?
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Jäck on December 02, 2011, 06:29:24 PM
I like Tanja/Ben so this eviction is Catch 22 really :-\
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Depths of Bloomfield on December 02, 2011, 06:40:44 PM
Tanja flipped again. Throwing her blackboard on the floor and yelling at the HMs who nominated her, that she wouldn't have wanted to stay in the house with such idiots anyway.

Get the other b*tches out, say hello to Finland's diva Tanja.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-y9YXXgjOBmo/ThiPx5P7eKI/AAAAAAAABGo/Rj939nSOrQU/ny-tittyshake.gif)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on December 02, 2011, 07:07:29 PM
Tanja flipped again. Throwing her blackboard on the floor and yelling at the HMs who nominated her, that she wouldn't have wanted to stay in the house with such idiots anyway.
LOL how great - I want to see that diva in action!  :D
is she a Nikki McKibbin-like character?
I guess she is. In a very different way, but still. Tanja hasn't been frequently like this for the whole season. Just for the last couple of weeks.  I think she's just mad. But entertaining in a way.

At the moment it seems, that Ben will be evicted on Sunday. The only person, who didn't give any nomination points to Tanja. For a while Tanja also refused to talk to any other HM than Ben.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: World of BB on December 04, 2011, 03:52:07 PM
Any news on what will happen next week? Didn't they promise at the start of the season that the final week would be full of surprises with things happening that had never been done before?
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on December 04, 2011, 04:59:45 PM
Any news on what will happen next week? Didn't they promise at the start of the season that the final week would be full of surprises with things happening that had never been done before?


Independence Day (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independence_Day_%28Finland%29) (6th December) is on Tuesday so they'll probably get something related to that theme on that day.

The final vote will begin at the end of tonight's live eviction show. More details about the final week will be revealed during the show.

Beginning on Monday, the viewers can also vote on the most memorable events this season. The winner of each category (?) will be revealed in a special gala night which will apparently take place some day during the final week.

It's two hours to the live eviction show now. Sebastian should be safe so the battle will be between Tanja and Ben.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: joako on December 04, 2011, 08:31:56 PM
SEBASTIAN has been evicted  :o :o :o :o
(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/uutiset/vko14/1281613-max468x468.jpg)
(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/uutiset/vko14/1281611-max468x468.jpg)
(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/uutiset/vko14/1281608-max468x468.jpg)
(http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/8510/sebastianout.png)

The public is now voting for the winner
(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/uutiset/vko14/1281274-max468x468.jpg)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on December 04, 2011, 08:33:13 PM
SEBASTIAN has been evicted  :o :o :o :o
Yeah...this is probably the biggest upset of the season.  :o
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: joako on December 04, 2011, 08:35:59 PM
SEBASTIAN has been evicted  :o :o :o :o
Yeah...this is probably the biggest upset of the season.  :o
Only 0.01% difference between him and Tanja  :-\

I think this is one of the biggest upset in the history of Big Brother  :o
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on December 04, 2011, 08:37:15 PM
Yeah...the percentages:

Ben 34.92 %
Tanja 32.45 %
Sebastian 32.44 %
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: World of BB on December 04, 2011, 09:12:25 PM
With the current voting format in Finland, no-one has been safe all season. Almost every eviction has been a lottery.

In percentage terms, this is the closest eviction vote in world Big Brother history. The previous closest was also in Finland when Marko was evicted with a 0.04% lead in BB5.

Martin in BB2 Denmark was evicted by 71 votes, but the percentages were not revealed. So for Sebastians to be the closest vote ever, there would need to have been less than 710,000 cast in total (which I assume would certainly have been the case).

And this week, it must have been the intelligent part of Finland that voted as only 0.19% of people voted for housemates not up for eviction (last week it was 1.72%).
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on December 04, 2011, 10:51:06 PM
SEBASTIAN has been evicted  :o :o :o :o
Yeah...this is probably the biggest upset of the season.  :o

That was quite shocking indeed. IMHO, Sebastian would have deserved to be in the final. Whatever you think about him - and even if you would not have wanted him to have any chance of winning - he's been undeniably the most central character this season, unlike anyone else. But the voting format is such that it wasn't a totally unexpected result. The practice of displaying intermediate results encourages voters to "optimize" their votes and vote only for the two last positions, especially near the end of voting time... which means the housemates who are supposed to be "safe" (in the third-to-last or fourth-to-last position) may easily be "forgotten" in the end... not getting any more votes, which means the persons in the two last positions may catch them up during the last commercal break.

Of course, the whole thing is designed to rake in as many televotes as possible, and not around the concept of fairness. If they truly wanted to have the best unbiased representation of people's opinions they'd never display any intermediate results at all but only the final result after the lines have closed...
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: carlex on December 05, 2011, 07:51:19 AM
That is sooooo close!!! Can't breathe with that! :D
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on December 05, 2011, 07:31:22 PM
Coming up tomorrow:

Quote from: bigbrother.fi
The housemates will be celebrating the independence of Finland from dawn to dusk.

For the first time in the history of Finnish Big Brother the season will last over the Independence Day. The housemates' Independence Day celebration is going to be full of tradition but it will also include humorous elements.

The day will culminate in a dignified Independence Day dinner and a ball in the BB house. In addition to following the (traditional) Independence Day Ball in the Presidential Palace, you can also watch the Independence Day hullabaloo live on the BB 24/7 service.


The Independence Day of Finland is a national holiday with patriotic and 'memorial day' type themes. It is also a TV evening: many are glued to their sets watching a live broadcast from the Presidential Palace where the annual Independence Day Ball will take place. The Ball is at least partially a bit like the Finnish equivalent of the Oscar gala red carpet walk scenes, except the guests are MPs, diplomats, ministers and their spouses and all kinds of nationally distinguished people who the President has decided to invite to the party (authors, movie stars, athletes, singers, war veterans, representatives of various civic organizations, academics etc.) For the couple of following days after the Ball, the local gossip magazines will be full of pictures and commentary on the ladies' evening gowns.

See these links for more information:

http://yle.fi/elavaarkisto/artikkelit/linnan_juhlien_parhaat_palat_vuodelta_2010_50999.html
http://www.presidentti.fi/Public/default.aspx?contentid=235585&nodeid=41412&contentlan=2&culture=en-US

So whatever will go on in the BB house tomorrow night is going to mimic that annual TV event in some way.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on December 06, 2011, 09:27:23 AM
It's Finland's Independence Day (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independence_Day_%28Finland%29) (6th December). The finalists received costumes from the storage room about 2 hours ago. They need to impersonate Finnish presidents.

(http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm313/think154twice/bbf2011/its_mikael_marski.jpg)
Mikael is C. G. E. Mannerheim (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Gustaf_Emil_Mannerheim) (1944–1946)

(http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm313/think154twice/bbf2011/its_suvi_kekkonen.jpg)
Suvi is Urho Kekkonen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urho_Kekkonen) (1956–1982)

(http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm313/think154twice/bbf2011/its_janica_koivisto.jpg)
Janica is Mauno Koivisto (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauno_Koivisto) (1982–1994)

(http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm313/think154twice/bbf2011/its_ben_ahtisaari.jpg)
Ben is Martti Ahtisaari (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martti_Ahtisaari) (1994–2000)

(http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm313/think154twice/bbf2011/its_tanja_halonen.jpg)
Tanja is Tarja Halonen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarja_Halonen) (2000-)

Currently, each of them is writing an Independence Day speech which they will be required to give later.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: spanish on December 06, 2011, 10:06:45 AM
The Independence Day in Finland and the Constitution Day in Spain.  :P
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on December 06, 2011, 11:59:29 AM
The housemates are watching a classic 1955 movie adaptation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Unknown_Soldier_%281955_film%29) of "The Unknown Soldier (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Unknown_Soldier_%28novel%29)", a WW2-era war novel by the author Väinö Linna (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%A4in%C3%B6_Linna).

(The story is fictional but partially based on Linna's personal experiences during the war. Finland gained independece in 1917 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finland%27s_declaration_of_independence), long before WW2, but it is generally seen that the two major military conflicts fought on the Finnish soil during WW2 - the Winter War (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War) and the Continuation War (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuation_War) - allowed the country to remain independent and as part of "the West" instead of being occupied by the Soviet Union... which was the fate of the neighboring country Estonia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estonia#Soviet_invasion_and_occupation), for example. The story of the novel/movie takes place during the Continuation War.)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on December 06, 2011, 01:04:16 PM
An alternative live feed just in case the events in the BBF house would not be interesting enough for you:

14:50 - 16:20 EET (12:50 - 14:20 UTC) Independence Day Concert: Finnish Radio Symphony Orchestra (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_Radio_Symphony_Orchestra) plays Kullervo Op. 7 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kullervo_%28Sibelius%29) by Jean Sibelius (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Sibelius)

(http://yle.fi/musiikki/klassinen/live/kuvat//id31705-kuva2.jpg) (http://yle.fi/musiikki/klassinen/live/)
(Click on the picture for a live video stream from the Helsinki Music Centre (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helsinki_Music_Centre).)

conductor: Sakari Oramo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sakari_Oramo)
soloists: Johanna Rusanen-Kartano (http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johanna_Rusanen-Kartano) (soprano) and Ville Rusanen (http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ville_Rusanen) (baritone)
choir: The Polytech Choir (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyteknikkojen_Kuoro)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on December 06, 2011, 01:28:50 PM
Tanja is Tarja Halonen ([url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarja_Halonen[/url]) (2000-)


Tarja Halonen will be replaced next year, as her 2 terms will come to an end. The Constitution law in Finland states, that any President can sit in the office for a maximum of 2 terms (6 years each). This hasn't always been so, the law was changed in 1994. Also since 1994 there has been a public election.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on December 06, 2011, 03:24:45 PM
(http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/6206/bb229.jpg)

The finalists just received their attire for the Independence Day celebration. The men got tailored suits, the women got evening dresses.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on December 06, 2011, 04:09:36 PM
(http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/3867/bb230.jpg)

(http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/2430/bb231.jpg)

(http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/9594/bb232.jpg)

(http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/7854/bb233.jpg)

(http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/6388/bb234.jpg)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on December 06, 2011, 04:19:55 PM
Coming up next (in 15 minutes): another alternative live video feed in case the events in the BBF house won't be that entertaining and captivating tonight:

The Presidential Independence Day Ball 2011
Live feed opens at: 18:30 EET (16:30 UTC)
Duration: 5h 30min

(http://yle.fi/ecepic/archive/00085/Presidentinlinna_its_85800b.jpg) (http://yle.fi/linnanjuhlat/2011/)
Click here (http://yle.fi/linnanjuhlat/2011/) for the live feed. (If the main stream does not work - they would appear to be having some technical problems tonight - you can also try the backup stream #1 (http://akastreaming.yle.fi/vp/fiyle/no_geo/live_c.asx) with Finnish commentary and the backup stream #2 (http://akastreaming.yle.fi/vp/fiyle/no_geo/live_d.asx) with Swedish commentary)

18:35 - 18:50 EET (16:35 - 16:50 UTC) - The preparty
18:50 - 22:15 EET (16:50 - 20:15 UTC) - The Presidential Independence Day Reception 2011
22:15 - 23:10 EET (20:15 - 21:10 UTC) - The afterparty

The general idea: Judge and comment on the design of the evening gowns worn by the local politicians and celebs as they approach the President and shake hands with her! Fun holiday pastime for the entire family and the media! Half of Finland (at least  the women) watches it each year so it must be interesting. Dancing and "Palace Punch" (the recipe is a secret!) fueled interviews will follow after the handshake ceremony.

More information: See this post (http://forum.worldofbigbrother.com/index.php?topic=547.msg29608#msg29608) from yesterday.

(Oh, and as for BBF: the housemates have been ordered out in the yard... so something is cooking up inside the house!)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on December 06, 2011, 05:25:19 PM
The housemates were just let back in after a second time in the yard. There's a fine dinner served for them on the dinner table.

(http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm313/think154twice/bbf2011/its_paivallinen_1.jpg)

(By the way, the YLE stream mentioned in my previous post (http://forum.worldofbigbrother.com/index.php?topic=547.msg29654#msg29654) wasn't working properly - they're apparently experiencing some technical problems. I have now updated the post a bit and provided new links to secondary backup streams. They would appear to work both with VLC and Windows Media Player. Update: The main video feed works now as well.)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on December 06, 2011, 07:47:27 PM
(http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/1204/bb239.jpg)

(http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/6627/bb241.jpg)

(http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/7012/bb242.jpg)

(http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/9995/bb243.jpg)

(http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/9373/bb244.jpg)

(http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/102/bb246.jpg)

(http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/5011/bb245.jpg)

(http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/3291/bb247.jpg)

(They're also dancing in that other stream.)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on December 06, 2011, 09:10:33 PM
Some songs that have played in the house tonight:

Benny Goodman - "Sing Sing Sing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2S1I_ien6A)"
Oskar Merikanto - "Valse lente (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=px8oLnxgFv0)"
Duke Ellington - "Take the 'A' Train (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRGFqSkNjHk)"
Sami Saari - "Ainutkertainen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K04Lzx39AoQ)"

The finalists just finished a lengthy conversation about sex (and the size of the male member and how to use it and female body types and cellulite and asses and thighs and whatnot... as always.)

(http://oi40.tinypic.com/2cxapgn.jpg)

Janica already went to bed. She apparently got a bit offended as Big Brother reprimanded her on cutting some straps off of the dress she got because they got in her way. And she was tired anyway. Currently, Ben, Mikael and Tanja are under the smoking canopy having a conversation about cigars and how to smoke them.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on December 07, 2011, 08:18:05 PM
Tonight, the finalists had to do some improvisation theatre and received a visit from stand-up comedian Arimo Mustonen (http://www.google.fi/search?q=Arimo+Mustonen).

At the moment, they're playing a drinking game. Mikael has already puked into the kitchen sink, Ben in the bathroom:

(http://i.imgur.com/pppKn.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/PZbI6.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/nPguB.jpg)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on December 08, 2011, 02:14:39 PM
OK...

Sebastian has just revealed in a recent interview given to Radio X3M (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_X3M) (YLE's Swedish language radio station aimed at youth audience) the production once strongly tried to suggest to him he's now nominating "the wrong person" in the diary room, and questioning "why is that". When he told them what he thought of that, they punished the entire house for his "arrogance" by removing all furniture, except a single chair and bed reserved for Sebastian himself:

http://yle.fi/extrem/artikel/musiknoje/42211-Big-Brother-styr-omrostningen-

Sebastian also says when he refused to wear the strap-on dildo on his forehead during a day task early in the season he was given direct, non-negotiable instructions in the diary room on what to say to the others about his line of action.

BB production has reacted to this public claim by suggesting it is all a misunderstanding and they would only try to ensure you can't nominate a housemate who has immunity.

Sebastian further comments the situation was not about him wanting to nominate anyone who had immunity:

http://yle.fi/extrem/artikel/musiknoje/42218-Big-Brother-svarade-till-Sebastian


(The articles are in Swedish, not Finnish. If you don't know any Swedish, use Google Translate to check them out. And while you're at it, see this Finnish-language thread (http://bbplaza.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=5545) on BBPlaza as well. Google Translate might help with that one too.)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on December 08, 2011, 05:46:55 PM
Quote from: bigbrother.fi
Surprise twist - 12 evicted housemates into the BB house!

On Friday, 12 previously evicted housemates will return to the BB house for a party.

The third-to-last day of the season - day number 102, which is Friday - will provide entertainment for your money's worth so don't leave the 24/7 feeds.

Late afternoon, the house will witness a festive "Best of" gala where the best moments of this season, as voted by the viewers, will be revealed in different categories.

Later during the night the house will see the return of 12 evicted housemates: Amanda, Annika, Kaisa, Liana, Netta, Veera, Tia, Terhi, Tamer, Stefan, Oskar and Salar.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on December 09, 2011, 12:39:17 PM
Coming up next: the "Best of Big Brother 2011" gala. The finalists just got their attire from the storage room.

This season's last "BB Extra" (7 p.m. to 7:30 p.m. Finnish time) live broadcast will be done from inside the house.

Tonight, the finalists will also get a party with 12 previously evicted former housemates visiting the house.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on December 09, 2011, 03:06:07 PM
The finalists - who are now wearing suits and dresses - spent a long time out on the upper patio sitting on the colorful deck chairs, complaining about the cold weather. (It's about 0 °C in Espoo.) The "Best of Big Brother 2011" gala is about to begin and they're now standing in front of the door, waiting to be let back in. BB is currently playing some movie soundtrack type orchestral music through the loudspeakers to up the anticipation.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on December 09, 2011, 03:57:56 PM
The "gala" is actually about to begin! (Finally...!) Mikael just came from the diary room with an envelope and he's reading the instructions aloud to the others.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: World of BB on December 11, 2011, 02:21:25 PM
Quote from: bigbrother.fi
Surprise twist - 12 evicted housemates into the BB house!

On Friday, 12 previously evicted housemates will return to the BB house for a party.

The third-to-last day of the season - day number 102, which is Friday - will provide entertainment for your money's worth so don't leave the 24/7 feeds.

Late afternoon, the house will witness a festive "Best of" gala where the best moments of this season, as voted by the viewers, will be revealed in different categories.

Later during the night the house will see the return of 12 evicted housemates: Amanda, Annika, Kaisa, Liana, Netta, Veera, Tia, Terhi, Tamer, Stefan, Oskar and Salar.

This twist seemed to fizzle out into nothing. The 12 housemates seemed to be enjoying the pool and sauna and then they all seemed to vanish without trace. The finalists didn't even seem to get to mix with them (unless I missed something).

I was expecting a wild party with all 17 of them drinking and partying until the small hours, but instead it was just a big let down. :(
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on December 11, 2011, 02:47:32 PM
I was expecting a wild party with all 17 of them drinking and partying until the small hours, but instead it was just a big let down. :(

Yeah, it was nice seeing the ex-housemates and hearing some of their stories but it could have been so much better if they only had put a bit more effort into it. :(

There was some drama, though. You can read more about it here:

http://the-site.dk/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=41281#p41281

---

The finalists have been cleaning the house for one last time and preparing for the night.

The live final broadcast will begin at 9 p.m. Finnish time. (21:00 EET, 19:00 UTC). Here's a direct link to the placeholder web page for the Internet stream:

http://www.katsomo.fi/?progId=98858

If you're a 24/7 subscriber, a "lights off" sequence will be seen in the house after the live broadcast ends and before the 24/7 feeds will be switched off for good for this season.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: World of BB on December 11, 2011, 02:54:44 PM
Whilst I don't agree with the way they display the voting positions all the time, it does mean that going into the final any one of the finalists could end up the winner. I have no idea who is going to win and that does make for an exciting final.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on December 11, 2011, 03:48:05 PM
Some events from yesterday which haven't been mentioned here:

-- flashback from yesterday begins ---

1. The finalists were shown a video clip (http://www.bigbrother.fi/videot.shtml/1457645/nain-olette-nakyneet-mediassa) giving some glimpses to how the media has treated them while they've been in isolation in the house. (As one might guess, this fueled a lot of discussion among the finalists.)

2. Later during the night, at around 11 p.m., Tanja and Janica had been to the sauna and taken their showers after it. They were preparing to join the other finalists in the bedroom (where Mikael, Suvi and Ben had already retreated to) when Tanja noticed BB was playing some music in the Nest. Tanja notified Janica about the music and they dashed into the Nest, still wrapped in their towels. They sat down, enjoyed listening to the music, and had a nice, lengthy conversation, wrapping up the season for their part. (BB was mostly playing mellow but wistful songs, such as Eurhythmics - "I Saved The World Today (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf052uxFF58&ob=av2n)" or Ultra Bra - "Vesireittejä (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlXJ-EwhQb0)".)

(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/uutiset/vko15/1287935-max468x468.jpg)

After the conversation was over, they came out and put some clothes on. Tanja went out for a smoke and Janica followed her to keep her company. Upon returning into the house, they noticed there's some music playing in the Nest again... so they went back in there, and discussed some more.

(http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/4818/bb260.jpg)

(http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/8030/bb261.jpg)

(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/3793/bb262.jpg)

Finally, when the music in the Nest had stopped for good, they went out in the yard for another smoke... but were in no hurry, and their conversation there went on for about half an hour still. (Tanja was smoking and Janica was enjoying the residual heat of the sauna.)

(http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/4761/bb264.jpg)

(http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/8044/bb263.jpg)

Then they returned into the house. Tanja brushed her teeth - Janica had already done her evening routine - and they went to bed, saying good night to each other for the last time in the BB house.

(http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/5148/bb265.jpg)

Some audio clips just for the general feel of it - you can hear the music in the background:

The first session in the Nest:
bbf2011d103-nest-janica-tanja.mp3 (http://www62.zippyshare.com/v/63695980/file.html) (28:49 - 8.9 MB)

The second session in the Nest:
bbf2011d104-nest-janica-tanja.mp3 (http://www32.zippyshare.com/v/79837923/file.html) (1:02:11 - 21.8 MB)

The conversation in the yard and the good night wishes in the bedroom at the end:
bbf2011d104-yard-janica-tanja.mp3 (http://www32.zippyshare.com/v/86058624/file.html) (26:18 - 8.5 MB)

-- flashback from yesterday ends ---

The finalists were just ordered to move out on the patio and the rolling door went down.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on December 11, 2011, 04:14:09 PM
(http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/8089/nyttkuva20111211kohtees.png)
The finalists are now enjoying their last supper.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on December 11, 2011, 07:46:18 PM
At the moment it seems, that Janica will win. She's been on the top for the whole finale. In the latest intermediate the gap between her and Mikael apparently was 6 %. Suvi has been 3rd, Tanja 4th and Ben 5th for the whole time. The difference between Mikael and Suvi seems to be much larger than between Janica and Mikael. So...it seems the voting will not be as tight as expected.

Edit: the gap between Janica and Mikael is now 3,5 %(23 % at the beginning).
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Jäck on December 11, 2011, 08:17:26 PM
I now we're in the midst of the final but what is Janica's hair all about?
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on December 11, 2011, 08:21:08 PM
I now we're in the midst of the final but what is Janica's hair all about?
Don't know about this night's look, but the general short and red is about styling. A few weeks ago they had hairdressers in the house and Janica decided to go short and red for a change.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BigBrotherFan on December 11, 2011, 08:26:32 PM
Ben is in fifth place

(http://u.jimdo.com/www101/o/sb752f3f638f37941/img/i33671f7834b777c2/1323635370/std/image.png)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: joako on December 11, 2011, 08:29:48 PM
TANJA finished in 4th place

(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/uutiset/vko15/1288518-max468x468.jpg)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: joako on December 11, 2011, 08:32:49 PM
SUVI finished in 3rd place

(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/uutiset/vko15/1288526-max468x468.jpg)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: joako on December 11, 2011, 08:40:02 PM
And the winner is.... JANICA!!

(http://www.bigbrother.fi/mn_kuvat/sub/big_brother_2011/uutiset/vko15/1288548-max468x468.jpg)

MIKAEL is the runner-up

47.54% Janica
42.91% Mikael
5.52% Suvi
2.71% Tanja
1.33% Ben
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BigBrotherFan on December 11, 2011, 08:40:57 PM
Janica is the winner !!  ;D ;D

(http://u.jimdo.com/www101/o/sb752f3f638f37941/img/i815a4d18e6ea7cf9/1323636212/std/image.png)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: joako on December 11, 2011, 08:44:56 PM
Ben and Tanja eviction graphic:

([url]http://u.jimdo.com/www101/o/sb752f3f638f37941/img/i07d89f018b25c040/1323635692/std/image.png[/url])
Did they re open the lines after Tanja left the house?  ??? ???

Because in the final percentages the difference between Janica and Mikael was only 5%, and in this graphic the difference is much higher than 5%  ???
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on December 11, 2011, 08:48:31 PM
Nope. After the lines closed, they stayed closed.

Also, season 8 was confirmed.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: World of BB on December 11, 2011, 08:48:56 PM
That graphic was taken before the voting lines closed. Once they closed they didn't re-open and they didn't show any graphics until they showed the final percentages after the winner was announced.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: World of BB on December 11, 2011, 08:50:19 PM

Also, season 8 was confirmed.

That's great news. Not surprising, I think BB Finland will be around for a few more years at least.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on December 11, 2011, 08:55:26 PM

Also, season 8 was confirmed.

That's great news. Not surprising, I think BB Finland will be around for a few more years at least.
Yeah...I read a rumour somewhere of a possible celebrity-edition planned for 2013. Also a recent survey on the official site would suggest BB going on for a few more years.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BigBrotherFan on December 11, 2011, 09:05:10 PM
Has there been any moment when Mikael would be the winner?
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Jäck on December 11, 2011, 09:08:13 PM
I'm dissapointed the other 3 got such low percentages but happy for Janica :)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on December 11, 2011, 09:26:25 PM
Has there been any moment when Mikael would be the winner?
No. The results stayed the same throughout the whole finale. Only the percentages changed. The closest Mikael got was around 1 %.
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: BrutalGentleman on December 11, 2011, 11:19:34 PM
Some comments (and a transcript of Janica's and Mikael's interviews in the studio) in the T&A forum:

http://the-site.dk/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=41336#p41336

(See the next page in that thread as well.)
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Logan on December 17, 2011, 05:13:49 AM
Congrats Janica!!  :D
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: scarlo on April 10, 2012, 09:22:16 AM
Janica was awesome! She really deserved it- no question! :) This was also one of my favorite seasons and I watched it more than regularly haha* :) I also think that the price for the winner was really good this time. At least it's more than a hamper with food & drink (http://www.serenatahampers.com)! ;) And this is the most important thing! I hope that the upcoming season is enjoyable like this one was!
Title: Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
Post by: Markus on June 28, 2012, 11:52:53 PM
Amanda got engaged to her her rapper-boyfriend Juno about a week ago. They both announced this on their FB-status on June 23rd. They were already involved, when Amanda was in the house.

(http://static.iltalehti.fi/viihde/junojuttu236mp_vi.jpg)