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Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
« Reply #125 on: September 25, 2011, 02:29:28 PM »
Oh and...who nominated who and nomination points (2 points first):

Veera: Terhi, Tamer
Minna: Annika, Mikael
Amanda: Terhi, Tanja
Suvi: Tamer, Minna
Annika: Tamer, Minna
Janica: Annika, Veera
Tanja: Ben, Tamer
Terhi: Amanda, Minna
Stefan: Sebastian, Suvi
Tamer: Tanja, Terhi
Mikael: Tanja, Tamer
Sebastian: Ben, Veera
Ben: Janica, Terhi

Nomination points:

Tamer 7
Terhi 6
Tanja 5
Annika 4
Ben 4
Amanda 2
Janica 2
Sebastian 2
Veera 2 (immune)
Mikael 1 (immune)
Suvi 1
Stefan 0
Salar (nominated by BB as a penalty)
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Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
« Reply #126 on: September 25, 2011, 03:05:05 PM »
But when the difference between 1st and 3rd on a 3-way eviction is only 0.66% and the differnce between 1st and 2nd is 0.24%, then I would say that a 1% margin of error is not acceptable.

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Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
« Reply #127 on: September 25, 2011, 07:49:04 PM »
Some notes from last night.

- After Mikael's secret task was revealed to Annika in the diary room (where they were called together on Sunday afternoon), they got further orders not to reveal anything to the other housemates. Instead, they need to pretend, together, that their temporary break-up was for other reasons than for BB pulling the strings behind the scenes. Mikael, having succesfully carried out the original secret task, got to choose a gift for Annika. He apparently gave her (or will give her at some point?) an expensive wristwatch by Guest.

The relationship between the two has warmed up again now, and they have made up and secretly discussed about their feelings in the bedroom. (Viewers have not seen the actual diary room session yet where Mikael's secret task was revealed to Annika. This clip will be included in Monday's daily show.) In the bedroom, Mikael told Annika it was really hard to maintain a sufficient distance from her at all times as he wasn't allowed to touch her at all for those three days, even by accident, or the mission would have failed... and had it failed, then he would not have been allowed to explain the real reason for his strangely cold and distanced behavior towards Annika which would have been an horrible punishment.

- Ben, one of the scheming housemates who belongs to a secret nomination-points voting alliance, had a private discussion with Veera and invited her to join up. Veera agreed to although it's still not clear whether she'll actually vote as instructed or double-cross them in some way.

- Tanja and Sebastian have also had a private discussion where they cleared up a couple of personal misunderstandings. During this discussion, Tanja announced she'll no longer play the conflict-avoiding, nice, sidetracked, quiet girl of the house - which is the role she feels she has taken for the last three and a half weeks, and which has gained her nothing. Tanja is pissed off about the fact she has been nominated twice already and she feels that if the other housemates want her out, she has nothing to lose and may as well stop trying to be nice to everyone. She'll get closer to her real self, who will be more aggressive and talk back when something annoys her. And God knows there are some people in the BBF house whose behavior annoys her. (This is where it might get interesting...)

- The next weekly task will take place in the outdoor task area, again. This time, the housemates - or at least some of them - will be living in a trailer... on a virtual holiday trip, I guess. The housemates probably aren't expecting this kind of a journey to the outdoors at all as they just finished another task a week ago which required them to sleep in the task area... and now they are maybe ordered to do that once again. (The exact nature of the task has not yet been revealed.)

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Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
« Reply #128 on: September 25, 2011, 09:02:44 PM »
In case you're wondering about the patterned beanie hats often worn by the housemates, or some other fugly clothing styles featured in the BBF house, they're the official "BB clothing line" merchandise for this year. The housemates have received an assortment of "official" BB clothes when they first entered the house. They only wear their BB T-shirts and wifebeaters occasionally, though. (Thank God.)

For some inexplicable reason, many housemates like to wear their beanie hats to both indoors and outdoors.

The weird striped fleece jumpsuit sometimes worn by Sebastian was sewn by himself. He's studying to become an elementary school teacher and the curriculum includes some training in arts and crafts. The jumpsuit was a student project of some sort.

Ben is another housemate who occasionally wears a (light gray) fleece jumpsuit.

Please don't ask. I don't have an explanation for any of these "fashion statements", either. (No. Not even for Annika's and Amanda's tartan pants!)
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Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
« Reply #129 on: September 26, 2011, 08:39:12 AM »
The weekly task has begun. The housemates are in the outdoor task area on a car-and-a-trailer holiday trip, with "stylish" clothing and other props provided by BB:



(See here for a video clip.)

Someone needs to "drive" the car during the journey. There's a car navigator voice which tells them where they're going and how much there's driving time left to the destination. There need to be five people in the car at all times while they're driving and the rest of the housemates spend their time in the trailer, except Salar and Terhi who got a punishment and need to go around the track with kick scooters right now. People in the trailer cannot come out unless the housemates in the car stop "driving." Occasionally they'll stop for a rest and unload their things. (They have another trailer behind the first one which contains food, barbecue grill, beach toys, deck chairs, etc. - all you need for a trailer holiday!)

They already stopped for 15 minutes as a punishment because Big Brother decided Veera had been driving recklessly, without keeping her hands on the steering wheel or her eyes on the road, and their car had gone off road. Veera doesn't have a driver's license, either. Big Brother has warned the housemates they might get stopped by a police patrol at some point. Breaks in driving are not counted to the total driving time so it takes longer for them to arrive to their destination if they have many of them. The first destination is 6 hours away.
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Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
« Reply #130 on: September 26, 2011, 10:13:36 AM »
About the missing 1%, the producers have acknowledged that the percentages shown were incorrect, and have said that 1% was given to housemates not even involved in the eviction vote, and that it then reaches 100%.

I don't know how you could manage to vote for someone who isn't nominated, but apparently you can. ::) ::)

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Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
« Reply #131 on: September 26, 2011, 02:31:59 PM »
Quite like the idea of that Weekly Task - in many ways it's classic BB.

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Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
« Reply #132 on: September 26, 2011, 05:35:32 PM »
The housemates have a Canon PowerShot camera in a waterproof casing which they must use for documenting their journey.

Several smoking housemates forgot to take their cigarettes with them which makes them a bit tense and easily irritable. The HMs also stopped at a service station where they received a basket full of cider and beer cans, but those doing the punishment weren't allowed to drink until later. Meanwhile, someone stole and hid some of the cider cans, which caused a bit of drama. Especially Suvi, the 34-year-old hairdresser, was quite upset about that.

At one point, the housemates experienced some problems with the navigator and maps: they needed to piece together a torn roadmap before being allowed to continue the trip. Also, Salar and Terhi were quite irritated about their punishment, having to go around the track with kick scooters for hours to end while the others were sitting in the car and the trailer or having a break and drinking. Salar was talking trash about the other housemates, trying to get Terhi to vote for Janica in the nominations.

The housemates arrived at their first destination just moments ago, at quite late hour (it's 2:30 a.m.), and are now unloading everything they have in the storage trailer (as per BB's instructions), which is a lot of stuff... most of it totally unnecessary junk, including large inflatable beach toys which they have to inflate each time, skis, an inflatable kids' paddling pool, a bicycle, and a trampoline, to name but a few. They got a small shower some time earlier but apparently it's not raining right now. They have to sleep in the trailer although BB also allows them to sleep in the car. Before going to sleep they're barbecuing some sausages and small, round meat-filled pies on a grill they had in the storage trailer.
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Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
« Reply #133 on: September 27, 2011, 02:14:23 AM »
Morning has broken... Sweet the rain's new fall, sunlit from heaven:


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« Reply #134 on: September 27, 2011, 05:11:26 AM »
Minna, the visually impaired girl, just got a secret task from Big Brother. Once the housemates pack their things and start "driving" to their next destination, she needs to secure herself a place in the car. During the journey, she needs to maintain constant discussion about animals, all the time for the next couple of hours. If the other housemates in the car try to discuss something else, she should divert the topic back to animals.

So far, Minna has been a rather quiet, boring housemate. She's not too enthusiastic about taking part in the social activities of the house and she seems to have weird holes in her general knowledge about various things. It should be interesting to see how she'll manage.

Many viewers - and by now, also some of her housemates - are already hoping Minna would be evicted because she does not bring too much interesting action in the house. Her relative inactivity (or even laziness - she's very fond of taking naps) cannot really be explained away with her visual impairment and she rarely has any meaningful discussions with the other housemates. Most often she just sits there alone, somewhere in the perimeter of the crowd, without saying a word and without taking part in discussion.

Sitting quietly with her dark, long, straight hair, and with her facial shape, pale skin and sunglasses, she often looks quite a bit like a stoned (or dead) Ozzy Osbourne...  :)





Edit: Minna has carried out her secret task quite successfully. The housemates have driven to two different destinations already and Minna has tried to talk about animals almost all the time. Salar was in the car during both trips, but they changed the driver and the backseat housemates (excluding Minna) for the second trip. Towards the end of the second trip, Salar was already clearly getting frustrated at Minna's rather one-track treatment of discussion topics:

Salar (sitting on the right front seat, with an annoyed tone): "Minna, you've talked almost four hours straight only about horses and fish! The last trip we did was all about horses!"
Tanja (who is currently "driving" the car, and wasn't there on the first trip): "Would you like to talk about horses, Minna?"
Minna (from the backseat, delighted): "Yes, let's talk about horses!"
Salar (quietly to himself): "Goddamnit." (facepalm)



Minna: "But do horses eat pears?"
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Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
« Reply #135 on: September 27, 2011, 01:39:08 PM »
The housemates have arrived at their destination for the night. Big Brother rewarded them with a pool/sauna party. (Actually, the party is in their own yard, but the entrance to the house is locked so they still need to return to their trailer in the outdoor task area after the party is over.) Food and alcoholic drinks are provided by BB; the sauna and the outdoor jacuzzi are warm and ready for bathing.

Tanja has been talking about diary room matters earlier during the day. Since this is against the rules of the BBF house, she got a punishment and isn't allowed to take part in the party (she can't eat or drink or dip in the jacuzzi or go to the sauna.) She also had to choose another housemate who gets the same punishment, andwasn't allowed to choose Stefan or Sebastian because they would have been too obvious choices. (Sebastian is a Christian believer who doesn't drink and who often takes the role of a good Samaritan in the house. Stefan has often sacrificed himself for the rest of the housemates by volunteering for night watch turns etc., and he can't drink right now as he's on medication because of his sore ankle.) In the end, Tanja chose Minna. This was because last week, Salar chose Minna to dine with him when he opened the Pandora's Box, so Minna has just recently enjoyed a luxury dinner. Minna said she wasn't too sorry about Tanja's choice as she didn't even pack her bikinis with her when they left the house so she could not have gone to the jacuzzi and the sauna anyway. Both Tanja and Minna are required to be present in the party, nonetheless, even though they can't take part in it.

Some screen grabs from the party:


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« Reply #136 on: September 28, 2011, 05:45:57 AM »
The housemates traveling in the trailer have got a secret task. They have been secretly provided with a bottle or two of vodka. They need to drink the vodka without getting caught or noticed by the five HMs driving the car. This also applies to breaks in driving when they unpack their things and have something to eat. The housemates traveling in the car cannot understand why the housemates in the trailer do not allow them to change places during the breaks and they're getting a bit suspicious about their behavior as well. (The housemates in the trailer are acting cocky and saying they've got such a great group in the trailer right now they don't want anyone else there.)



In other news today, Veera and Stefan had a private discussion in the storage trailer. Veera is fed up with Suvi and is planning to make Suvi's life so difficult she'll quit voluntarily.

The housemates traveling in the car just figured out the other group probably has a secret task and said it aloud.

Moments later, the group of housemates currently occupying the trailer are having a heated discussion about sharing cigarettes, drinks provided to them, and food items. There are different views on how such goods should be distributed. The discussion ended with Janica feeling driven up against the wall, with no-one on her side. She got fed up with all the trash talking, left the trailer group and went into the car, exchanging places with Suvi. The other people in her group think their secret task has now failed as their group fell apart. Janica felt hurt because of something Veera said.
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Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
« Reply #137 on: September 28, 2011, 01:14:25 PM »
It's so simple but this task is one of the best I've seen (well, read about) on Big Brother in years.

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Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
« Reply #138 on: September 28, 2011, 01:37:23 PM »
They definately blew the secret task. But the task also made things much more interesting for the next nominations. Revelations were made. Mostly on the drinking side. The HMs have already split in two camps. That much is clear. Not sure, if it's going to last for too long. Basically it's now Salar and his gang against pretty much everyone else. Salar's gang includes Amanda, Ben and Veera. Possibly Stefan. Everyone else seems to be on their own. Except Annika and Mikael. But you can't really ever know about those two.

Seems, like Salar is falling into his own trap. He's been the king of scheming. Or so he thinks...his alliance isn't perfect. Ben has nominated as he sees fit. No matter what has been agreed with the alliance.
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« Reply #139 on: September 28, 2011, 03:27:41 PM »
^ Janica also cried a bit later on, while sitting on the back seat of the car. She said she didn't like how they (the housemates in the trailer, especially Veera) talked to her, and how they (especially Amanda and Ben) were dissing Tanja's looks and opinions in her absence.



11:08 p.m.

The housemates have packed their things and are now ready for their nightly journey to the next destination. All these virtual destinations are cities in Finland, some of which have attractions which should be interesting to real RVers. Except for the fact that all the traveling our housemates will get takes place in the outdoor task area of the BB house.



Tanja is the assigned driver for the first stretch tonight. She's still in the trailer, negotiating with the other housemates about who could take the next driving turn after her.

Stefan, who called shotgun earlier, is waiting at the diary room door, hoping to be let in before they start driving. He has something to say to the BB on behalf of Suvi, who is apparently feeling a bit down and crying in the trailer. (Suvi would have been a potential driver tonight as she was one of the housemates who hasn't been drinking. But she is experiencing some pain in her hips so she feels she can't sit for too long. She's also suffering from the withdrawal symptoms of nicotine. Most of the housemates who smoke have not had any cigarettes since three days or so.)

Minna, Veera and Salar are now sitting on the back seat of the car, prepared for the trip, waiting for Stefan and Tanja to come back so they can begin driving. They don't seem too enthusiastic.



Veera (aggressively, with a commanding tone of voice): "Smile for me, Salarrrr!"

Salar stares straight ahead with a serious face. He apparently doesn't feel like smiling right now.

Stefan (yelling towards the car while standing next to the diary room door): "Salar, they don't let me in!"
Salar (gesturing frustratedly with his hand): "Well why would you need to go there in the first place?"
Stefan (yelling): "'Coz Suvi is cranky and she wants some medi... as she's going to drive tonight, so--"
Salar: "She doesn't need to drive tonight!"
Stefan: (something incomprehensible)
Veera (leaning forward on the back seat with soda bottles in both hands and shouting to Stefan with an angry tone of voice... the situation is clearly getting on her nerves): "Tell her she doesn't need to drive! Argh! Fuuuuuuuuck!"
Stefan: "Okay!"
Veera (with a lower voice): "If I had a water pistol I'd gonna shoot her!"
 
Stefan is unexpectedly let into the diary room.

Stefan (opening the diary room door): "Well fuck me."
Minna (to the other housemates sitting on the back seat): "Why does he feel the need to go there and ask anyway?"
Salar (fed up with waiting, with fingers on his forehead, almost doing a facepalm): "'Cause Stefan is such a dog he'll take orders from just anyone."

Veera (bouncing the plastic soda bottles rhytmically against each other in her hands): "Salar."
Salar (sitting next to her, with a quiet voice): "Mmh..."
Veera: "Salar!"
Salar: "What?"
Veera (speaking while breathing in): "Nothing!"
Salar (sighing): "...Okay."

Finally, everyone is in the car, the trailer door is locked, and they can begin "driving" into the night.



Stefan is complaining about the uninteresting scenery. (They can't actually see anything as the moisture in their breath has steamed the windshield. Not that there would be anything to see, anyway, except the green walls of the task area. The temperature in Espoo is about 10 °C / 50 °F at the moment.)

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Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
« Reply #140 on: September 28, 2011, 06:14:09 PM »
They drove as far as they got. Before the police came and stopped the caravan. Fake police, of course. I only have the images from the official site. But the whole thing was hilarious. With the police first grabbing Tanja off the driver's seat. Tanja protested. Then it was Stefan's turn to join Tanja. He also protested. Soon most of the HMs joined Stefan and Tanja. Sebastian and Mikael first pulled a tarpaulin over one of the two policemen. Then threw water on him as soon as he was let free.







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« Reply #141 on: September 28, 2011, 07:19:48 PM »
^ The housemates were suspecting they were police from another country as their uniform did not look anything like the Finnish police would use. They also never spoke anything, only gestured with their nightsticks or grabbed the housemates by their arms etc. Not to mention the untidy hair, fake beards, fake mustaches etc.



The travelers have stopped and unloaded their things once again.



Stefan is trying to get some sleep in the small car. (There's not enough room for him to sleep in the trailer with the other housemates.)
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« Reply #142 on: September 29, 2011, 08:14:10 AM »
There was another funny segment today when Amanda, Janica and Terhi were allowed to smoke and drink secretly on the back seat of the car, trying to avoid being noticed by the housemates in the trailer. They didn't succeed in that too well - the housemates in the trailer actually did notice them smoking after a while and were quite sure some of them had been drinking as well - but especially Janica got delightfully tipsy, and some fun discussion ensued.

The trailer holiday is now over, though, and the weekly task has ended. The housemates have been let back into the house from the task area:



The housemates are called to the sofas. BB announces they have failed their weekly task. They were supposed to have a fun and relaxing holiday but there was all too much complaining and drama. Everyone just laughs as they were expecting this already. Since they were betting on 99% of their weekly budget, they only got a couple of euros for buying food for the next week. (As always, they will be provided with basic foodstuff, anyway: pasta, cheap canned meat, etc.)

(A picture gallery of photographs taken by the housemates themselves during the task. Here's another gallery from the party they had.)
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Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
« Reply #143 on: September 29, 2011, 09:10:21 AM »
Just one correction: the budget is in units, not euros. Big Brother reserves the right to determine, what the units are worth.
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Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
« Reply #144 on: September 29, 2011, 09:16:33 AM »
Just one correction: the budget is in units, not euros. Big Brother reserves the right to determine, what the units are worth.


Someone on BBPlaza has figured out the equivalence of a single "unit" in euros. (They get 10 units per housemate for their weekly budget. 1 unit = 1.6 euros.)

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« Reply #145 on: September 29, 2011, 09:33:02 AM »
Just one correction: the budget is in units, not euros. Big Brother reserves the right to determine, what the units are worth.


Someone on BBPlaza has figured out the equivalence of a single "unit" in euros. (They get 10 units per housemate for their weekly budget. 1 unit = 1.6 euros.)

Ok. Does the calculation take into account, that Big Brother still randomly puts the pricetags on the goods available? IMHO it doesn't really matter, if there is a unit per euro rate to be calculated. The calculation don't really matter, since BB ultimately decides what the units are worth. Or what amount of goods the HMs get for any given amount of units.

In this sense the shop is kind of a mix of the other seasons there was a shopping budget. And season 5, where BB decided what the HMs would get. And when.
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Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
« Reply #146 on: September 29, 2011, 10:18:09 AM »
Ok. Does the calculation take into account, that Big Brother still randomly puts the pricetags on the goods available?

I'd assume the unit pricing is mostly logical when converted to euros but there are some special decoy items each time where the price does not logically follow from the amount they get.

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Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
« Reply #147 on: September 29, 2011, 11:24:14 AM »
Ok. Does the calculation take into account, that Big Brother still randomly puts the pricetags on the goods available?

I'd assume the unit pricing is mostly logical when converted to euros but there are some special decoy items each time where the price does not logically follow from the amount they get.
And I think there is no monetary value to the units. You can make all sorts of calculations based on previous seasons. It's still a completely new season with a new set of rules.
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Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
« Reply #148 on: September 29, 2011, 12:15:03 PM »
Ok. Does the calculation take into account, that Big Brother still randomly puts the pricetags on the goods available?

I'd assume the unit pricing is mostly logical when converted to euros but there are some special decoy items each time where the price does not logically follow from the amount they get.
And I think there is no monetary value to the units. You can make all sorts of calculations based on previous seasons. It's still a completely new season with a new set of rules.

At one point (last week? the week before that?) they received a receipt from the supermarket where their groceries were bought. I think they discussed the equivalence between "units" and euros a bit but I don't recall whether they came to any conclusion. (Then again, I don't recall they would have considered the prices illogical, either.) What I do recall is the alcoholic beverages they bought weren't on that receipt... probably because they were likely provided free by Olvi, the brewery which has a product placement deal this year.

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« Reply #149 on: September 29, 2011, 12:35:42 PM »
I'm using the bbviewer to watch the feeds. Could someone give me a translation of the menus, as I don't want to just randomly choose things and end up messing it up. Some are obvious, others not so.

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