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Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
« Reply #150 on: September 29, 2011, 01:33:00 PM »
I'm using the bbviewer to watch the feeds. Could someone give me a translation of the menus, as I don't want to just randomly choose things and end up messing it up. Some are obvious, others not so.

MiniMode - Mini Mode (no window frame decorations such as the title bar)
Kokoruutu - Full screen
Näytä/Piilota - Show/Hide
Aina päällimmäisenä - Always on top
Estä näytönsäästäjä - Disable screen saver
Muista MiniModen sijainti - Save/Recall the window position in MiniMode
Avaa PIPit automaattisesti - Open the PIP (Picture-in-Picture) subframes automatically
Teema - Theme
Globaalit näppäinoikotiet - Global keyboard shortcuts
Proxy asetukset - Proxy settings
Chat asetukset - Chat settings
Timeshift - Timeshift (not sure why anyone would want to disable this: enables the Play/Pause button, the two-hour timeshift seek bar and the "Suora" ("Live") button in all video streams)
Päivitykset - Updates
Tietoja/Ohjeet - Information / Help

Päävalikko - Main menu
Video kontrollit - Video controls
Chat - Chat
Videoarkisto - Video archive
Info Center - Info Center
Ilmoitusalueen kuvake - System Tray icon
Tehtäväpalkin painike - Taskbar button
Tarkista päivitykset - Check for updates
Tarkista päivitykset automaattisesti - Check for updates automatically

Toolbar buttons:

DC1 (Director's Cut 1), DC2 (Director's Cut 2), OH (Olohuone - Living room), MH (Makuuhuone - Bedroom), Piha (Yard), Mix (Camera Mix / Kitchen). These toolbar buttons are only active when you're in a simple single video pane mode. Also, the meaning and labeling of the four latter (non-DC) streams may change when there's some special situation going on, such as a week in the task area. However, changes in labeling which take place in the Katsomo service are not reflected in the UI of BBViewer: you can only see the alternative labels when you hover the mouse pointer over the video panes, in the top part of the video pane.

PIP - Menu for choosing a secondary Picture in Picture stream for the current video pane. (Uusi PIP - New PIP. A Picture-in-Picture is a smaller video frame on top of the larger main video frame, typically positioned in one of the corners of the larger frame.)

Multi - Menu for opening a separate video window for another stream. (Separate from the main window)

Mosaic Mode - Multiple rearrangeable and on/off switchable video panels in the main window instead of just a single stream. Disables the stream selection buttons in the toolbar. When you're in Mosaic Mode, see the right mouse button menu for choosing the visible video streams. You can rearrange the visible video panels by grabbing them from their title bars with the mouse or change their relative size by repositioning (dragging) the borders between them.

Chat - IRC channel/client for chatting with other BBViewer users

Video archive - Katsomo BBF 2011 video archive. You can watch the daily shows ("Big Brother"), the BB Extra shows, and the Sunday eviction shows ("BB Talk Show") here, along with other random video clips.

Info Center - simpler, alternative web browser for viewing all the news articles and embedded videos on the official BBF 2011 site without all the cruft.


Info Center tabs:

Uutiset - News
Tehtävät - Tasks
Salaisuudet - Secrets
Kuvat - Pictures
BB Extra - news articles related to the daily (Mon-Fri) BB Extra talk show broadcast on TV at 7 p.m. The actual shows are viewable in the video archives.
Asukkaat - Housemates (their profiles)
Arkisto - Calendar view to the news articles
Keskustelu - Official BBF 2011 forum (BBPlaza is maybe better)
BB Pedia - A Big Brother Finland wiki
Chat Stats - statistics for the IRC channel where you may chat with other BBViewer users


As for the right mouse button menu in the Mosaic Mode, there's a function called "Palauta alkuperäinen näkymä" which means "Restore original view".

Hope this helps! :)

If we get an exchange this year, you'll hopefully get your money's worth for subscribing to the 24/7 live service... as it's likely the housemates would be communicating in English with the exchange housemate for the whole week. At least that's the way things have worked for us in the last three seasons. (We've had an exchange with BB Africa, BB Pinoy (The Philippines), and BB Slavnih (Celebrity Big Brother Slovenia) this far.)
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Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
« Reply #151 on: September 29, 2011, 02:20:23 PM »
Also, pushing the right button on your mouse on any of the toolbar buttons will open the selected camera in a new window. For example: if you're watching DC1 and want to watch DC 2 simultaneously, just select DC2 on the toolbar with the right-hand button on your mouse. Or laptop.
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Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
« Reply #152 on: September 29, 2011, 04:28:09 PM »
Thanks for the translations, it helps a lot.

If there is an exchange this year, then possible countries could be India, whose celebrity BB starts next week, or maybe even the UK. Although after 3 exchanges, they should really give it a break.

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Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
« Reply #153 on: September 29, 2011, 09:15:43 PM »
If there is an exchange this year, then possible countries could be India, whose celebrity BB starts next week, or maybe even the UK. Although after 3 exchanges, they should really give it a break.


Someone has compiled a list of potential exchange countries:
http://bbplaza.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=422876#p422876

...if there will be an exchange, that is. (The months listed are when their season begins/began, except for France where the season has already ended.)

Having an exchange this year as well certainly wouldn't be a surprising new twist any longer, but the two latest exchanges we've had in the past three seasons were both fun to watch and they brought out interesting new sides of our housemates. (The first exchange was a bit awkward, though.)


The nominations today should be interesting. There are three couples in the house - Mikael & Annika, Ben & Amanda, Salar & Veera (even though only Mikael and Annika would probably count as a "true" couple) - and the "single" women of the house (at least Tanja, Suvi, Terhi and Janica) have just figured they should start nominating the couples or they'll be voted out themselves. Mikael and Annika might be targeting Tanja. Ben, Amanda, Salar and Veera have a voting alliance of which Stefan is a hangaround member, and they'll probably set their sights either on Suvi & Sebastian or Tanja & Terhi... except that Ben usually votes as he pleases despite of whatever it was they agreed to. And then there's still the lifeline competition among the nominees where the winner will be able to save themselves and exchange someone else in their place.

I'd hope to see something dramatic, such as the winner of the lifeline competition exchanging Ben in their place and him being evicted. But if there are two somewhat popular housemates (Sebastian, Janica, Mikael [who has the immunity anyway!], Annika) against the less popular ones (such as Tanja, Terhi, maybe Veera) it'll be one of the latter who will leave.

It is a mystery how the voting audience would react to Ben against the others. 24/7 viewers think he's one of the sleaziest and most cringe-inducing housemates of all times but those only watching the dailies or only paying attention to looks are maybe thinking higher of him. And with only plus votes in the game he might still command more support than Terhi, for instance, unless people wanting him out will vote for Terhi for strategic reasons.


Next week, 24/7 subscribers will be able to vote for who will be ordered to open the Pandora's Box again. The vote will be conducted on the official Katsomo Big Brother 24/7 web page - probably by choosing the name of the desired housemate from a list of all housemates at the bottom of the page, just like the last time when Salar was chosen to open the box. Voting requires a valid subscription to the 24/7 service and logging in to the official Katsomo Big Brother 24/7 web page with your Katsomo account. There are no additional voting fees: the right to vote is part of the 24/7 subscription. You can vote five times during the next week: once a day till Friday. This vote has nothing to do with eviction, it's only about Pandora's Box. After next week, there are still two remaining times when the box will be opened.
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Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
« Reply #154 on: September 30, 2011, 01:10:28 AM »
Nominations have begun. BB is calling housemates to the diary room one by one to give their points.

By the way, if you catch Mikael saying "La gente esta muy loca... What the fuck!?" (his favorite catchphrase, along with meowing like a cat), it's from Sak Noel's "
Loca People
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The yellow plastic bottles you can see many BBF housemates carrying in the house, with the word "TEHO" (Finnish for "POWER") on their label, are energy drinks provided by the brewery/beverage company Olvi. Olvi is one of the product placement partners (sponsors of the show) this season.
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Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
« Reply #155 on: September 30, 2011, 01:15:13 AM »
I hate this song. It song sounds in all Spanish discos.

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Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
« Reply #156 on: September 30, 2011, 06:57:59 AM »
BB called all housemates to the sofas. It was announced the housemates have nominated six (!) people in the eviction vote, and the first one of them is... Ben.

After two minutes of suspension and silence, BB called Ben to the diary room. Moments later, he came back with six red armbands. He left five of them folded on the living room table and asked Mikael to assist him in securing one of them around his arm. He then left the sofas saying he has nothing further to announce and the other housemates may leave the sofas as well.



Speculation is running wild in the house now. The housemates are not aware of this, but the viewers have been told the remaining five nominees will be announced live during tonight's "BB Extra" show which is broadcast at 7 p.m. local time (16:00 UTC) and runs for half an hour.

The viewers have also been announced there will be no lifeline competition this week.

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Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
« Reply #157 on: September 30, 2011, 08:19:00 AM »
OK, I dare you 24/7 subscribers to watch the DC1 timeshift buffer at about minus one hour from now... the bedroom scene with the three couples. Since the buffer is two hours in total, you still have one hour left when I post this message.



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Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
« Reply #158 on: September 30, 2011, 10:12:36 AM »
Ben, Suvi, Annika, Sebastian, Minna and Tanja are up for eviction this week.

Sebastian is safe, that's for sure. I would hope for Minna to go, she still really haven't done much for her to be interesting. Also I'm surprised Terhi wasn't nominated this week.
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Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
« Reply #159 on: September 30, 2011, 10:50:32 AM »
The housemates, especially Suvi, are suspecting there's something fishy going on with the announced nominees. Suvi just can't believe Sebastian or Minna would be among them: it's a mind trick of some sort, BB is trying to bluff them. Sebastian does not believe so. He's quite sure there are people in the house who have given nomination points to him. Sebastian is taking it all in good spirit: he does not seem to worry about his fate too much. Minna is taking it harder because she would really like to remain in the house and she's been afraid of getting nominated all the time.

Salar is called to the diary room. He soon comes back announcing the housemates aren't allowed to swear any longer until further notice from Big Brother.

The viewers were also just told in BB Extra the housemates will get a party tonight. They can drink but those who are up for eviction and wearing a red armband aren't allowed to smoke. The smokers among the nominees are Suvi, Annika, Tanja and Minna.

(Earlier today, Annika and Veera were very upset and agitated about Minna and they were talking trash about her behind her back. Minna has a personal stash of cigarettes she brought with her in the house. She still has six packs left, but she doesn't want to share them with the other smokers who have already smoked their allotment and are short on ciggys right now. Annika and Veera were actually planning to nick some cigarettes from Minna today and they were rummaging through her stuff to find them, but didn't find any. In Annika's and Veera's opinion, all housemates are constantly helping Minna with various things and bending backwards for her because of her disability but she never even says thanks or rewards them in any way for their troubles. Sharing cigarettes would be a way to show some gratitude but she has made it clear she isn't going to do that. Annika and Veera are thinking Minna is spoiled, selfish, and even purposefully mean towards the other smokers.)

The housemates have been let out in the yard and the party has started so the 24/7 subscribers can watch it now.
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Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
« Reply #160 on: September 30, 2011, 11:11:20 AM »
Are the ratings for that series good?

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Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
« Reply #161 on: September 30, 2011, 11:42:55 AM »
Are the ratings for that series good?
For Sub they are. Have always been. I'm not quite sure about the exact percentages, but last year BB had about 35% share on Sub. I'm guessing the share is around the same numbers this year. Possibly closer to 40%. Which is around triple to for example Mythbusters and The Simpsons, which are aired on the same channel.

Big Brother is the only show on Sub to be in TOP100 of all shows on any channel here. There's the Big 3 (YLE with two channels, MTV3 and Channel 4) who dominate the field. The numbers are normally 400-500 000 for Talk Shows and 300-400 000 for dailies. Whereas the most viewed shows on the bigger channels get around 1 000 000 viewers.
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Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
« Reply #162 on: September 30, 2011, 12:04:26 PM »
Out of the nominees, the 2 I wouldn't miss are Sebastian and Minna. They don't seem to do anything, I rarely notice either on the live feeds. But as there is a 8/5 female/male split, it's time for a female to go, so hopefully it will be Minna evicted.

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Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
« Reply #163 on: September 30, 2011, 12:12:10 PM »
Out of the nominees, the 2 I wouldn't miss are Sebastian and Minna. They don't seem to do anything, I rarely notice either on the live feeds. But as there is a 8/5 female/male split, it's time for a female to go, so hopefully it will be Minna evicted.

I guess Sebastian is boring for anyone who doesn't understand Finnish. Then again, I guess his boring to some who do. He's smart, he just mostly talks. And he mostly talks about religion. Nevertheless he's one of the favourites to even win.

BTW...a link to the gallery of pics the HMs took on their virtual stop in Kuusamo:

http://www.bigbrother.fi/uutiset.shtml/1399790/tassa-ovat-asukkaiden-itse-ottamat-kuusamo-bilekuvat--katso-jattimainen-kuvagalleria
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Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
« Reply #164 on: September 30, 2011, 01:09:19 PM »
Out of the nominees, the 2 I wouldn't miss are Sebastian and Minna. They don't seem to do anything, I rarely notice either on the live feeds.

Well... Let's see... Sebastian has farted in Salar's face, tried hard to get into the car in the task area by climbing in via any partially open door or window, stuffing in his long legs (this was while he was suspecting they've been secretly smoking and drinking in the car [which was true] and the housemates in the car were trying to prevent him from inspecting them, and Ben eventually had to carry him away, and then he didn't want to let go of Ben...:D) He has also comforted crying Annika and carried him through the mouse-and-grasshopper-infested room, learned some basics of female closeness with Janica (Sebastian is still a virgin, he's saving himself for marriage), etc. etc.

Sebastian is a bit naïve (but in a fun way), especially considering double entendres, sex talk and other such things. He often says things which are OK when taken at face value but darn funny, unintentionally, when filtered through a dirty mind.

But above all, Sebastian is a great talker and listener and likes to pose interesting, intelligent morality or ethics questions to the other housemates, trying to get inside their head and analyze their motives... and generally trying to figure out what makes them tick, or what could make them tick better. You could say he's also an expert in trying to resolve conflicts among the housemates, or in trying to get the other housemates see - and possibly get rid of - their personal flaws in a constructive and thoughtful way.

Sebastian's only character flaw, if you can call it that, is that everything he does is based on the Holy Bible, in one way or the other, which might be mildly irritating at times - but not too much so. He's not pushing his religion (thank God!), but if someone asks him about his views or motivations for doing something, it usually leads to a discussion about religion.

All in all, Sebastian is a great guy - quite unlike any BBF housemate we've seen before him - and is likely to leave this year's house as second-to-last or last housemate. His heart is in the right place, so to speak.

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Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
« Reply #165 on: September 30, 2011, 01:10:45 PM »
This is my 4th season watching the feeds of Big Brother Finland, the others were BB1, BB2 & BB4. I can't remember why I missed BB3, I was probably following another countries BB and for the last 2 years (BB5 & BB6) I had very limited internet access so couldn't get the feeds.

From my point of view, not understanding the language, I develop very different favourites to the Finnish public. The housemates I like are the ones that do interesting things, whereas the public will often like people who say interesting things. This can be frustrating as my favourites will ofter get voted out early.

One of the reasons why I dislike Sebastian so much is that on day 1, within an hour or so of them entering the house all he wanted to do was go to bed and sleep. Everyone else was having fun and getting to know each other and he shut himself in the bedroom. So my first impression of him was very negative, and I haven't seen him do anything to make me change my opinion.

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Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
« Reply #166 on: September 30, 2011, 01:25:36 PM »
One of the reasons why I dislike Sebastian so much is that on day 1, within an hour or so of them entering the house all he wanted to do was go to bed and sleep. Everyone else was having fun and getting to know each other and he shut himself in the bedroom. So my first impression of him was very negative, and I haven't seen him do anything to make me change my opinion.


That was probably because he was having a culture shock! ;) Sebastian doesn't drink and his motivation for applying to BB was letting the audience - especially the younger kids who are watching the show - see there's an alternative way of leading your life than just boozing and partying and having extra-marital sex, which was his preconceived notion of what BB is (mostly) about. He wants to be a straight role model for the audience, breaking the usual mold of BB housemates. He also thinks that however long he is let to stay in the house is God's will. He's not really trying to win the 50 grand. (Or so he says, at least.)

Sebastian has compared his stay in the BBF house to The Pilgrim's Progress, a well-known Christian allegory. Which I think means the house is anything but an easy place for him.

Sebastian is generally liked by all housemates except perhaps Ben and Stefan. I'm not sure about Salar, they seem to have this interesting love-hate-brotherhood thing going on. Sebastian is trying to crack Salar's head open so he can figure out how his mind works. He's partially an enigma to Sebastian. Salar, on the other hand, is probably a bit baffled about Sebastian and his interest in him, and how his usual loudmouth street kid bully tactics don't seem to work on Sebastian. I think he has begun to respect Sebastian on some level although it's hard for him to admit it because they're so different personalities and they're seeing the world through completely different eyes.

Edit: Oh, did I mention Sebastian's dad has apparently grown pot and has been a one-time (biker?) gang member (Sebastian slipped something about him having gang tattoos), and according to Sebastian, he has a similar personality to Salar and Sebastian thinks Salar is probably his favorite when he's watching the show. And Sebastian's step-mother is a former witch... (whatever that is supposed to mean...)
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Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
« Reply #167 on: September 30, 2011, 02:09:21 PM »
This is my 4th season watching the feeds of Big Brother Finland, the others were BB1, BB2 & BB4. I can't remember why I missed BB3, I was probably following another countries BB and for the last 2 years (BB5 & BB6) I had very limited internet access so couldn't get the feeds.

I didn't really watch the first three seasons myself, and I only followed the latter half of BB4. (BB4 was the first season with an housemate exchange - to BB Africa - but it was a bit... meh. The exchanges in BB5 and BB6 were much better.)

BB5 and BB6 had younger housemates (18 and up, more party/fun oriented). The current season seems to be more about group dynamics, at large, than the individual housemates. At least for the time being. This might well change towards the latter half of the season, though.

A curious feature of this season is the number of single mothers (Tanja, Terhi, Janica, Suvi) and the number of in-house relationships/pairings (Mikael & Annika, Ben & Amanda, Salar & Veera)... which is not necessarily a good thing, as the pairs seem to spend a bit too much time in bed fondling and kissing each other instead of interacting with the other housemates. Also, we have not yet seen a truly game-changing eviction of a central character which would make a noticeable difference in the social pressure cooker that is the BB house. Also, this is the first season when scheming has been allowed from day one and some housemates (Ben and Salar) have taken full advantage of it.

From my point of view, not understanding the language, I develop very different favourites to the Finnish public.

That's understandable, of course. (I'm not sure how boozed-up Stefan growling unintelligibly in another language would work for me... Or maybe I would since he's growling unintelligibly in Finnish as well... :)) And those natives only watching the daily compilations have a yet different view about the housemates when compared to the 24/7 subscribers who "see it all" - all the discussions, full length and uncut, all the smaller gestures and related body language, the little meaningful events and bits of dialog which never make it into the daily show, all the scheming, how some little insignificant event or comment can lead to a huge chain reaction over the span of several days, etc.
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Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
« Reply #168 on: September 30, 2011, 03:18:00 PM »
BTW, BG...what do you think, is the rule against HMs swearing just in Salar's head? Or real?
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Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
« Reply #169 on: September 30, 2011, 05:06:12 PM »
BTW, BG...what do you think, is the rule against HMs swearing just in Salar's head? Or real?

I could not source a news article on the official site that would have confirmed this swearing restriction. Then again, Salar said it was an order from Big Brother and that giving false orders from BB is forbidden. Who knows? It could be a prank for all I know.

Apparently Janica, Tanja and Terhi have grown fairly close to one another during this week... especially Janica and Tanja. Minna has also become close to Tanja, Terhi and Amanda.

There's a clear split in the house between the three couples (+Stefan) and the single women. Sebastian is not in either group, or he shuttles between both.

Annika and Terhi have had a drunken discussion in the sauna. They made up after a cooler period of a couple of days. Annika was jealous because Terhi slept in the trailer in close contact with Mikael during the weekly task in the task area. This happened after the party they had: both were drunk at the time. Nothing happened, though. It was just innocent sleeping with Terhi's head resting on Mikael's shoulder and Mikael's arm wrapped around her. Annika and a couple of other housemates just thought it looked bad.

Annika told Terhi she's a jealous kind of person even in the outside world. Or rather, a thousand times more jealous person: it's the Russian blood in her. (Annika's mother is from Russia.) Terhi fooling around with Mikael is OK if it happens in innocent sense, but sleeping in close contact with him is too much. Terhi assures Annika she's just friends with Mikael and she would never want to get between Annika and Mikael. And if she had to choose between Annika and Mikael, she would choose Annika, there's no question about that. Annika got very emotional upon hearing this and lowered her head with tears in her eyes. Terhi hugged her. The discussion continued for a while longer but ended with Annika stating Terhi understands her the best of all housemates and with both girls hugging each other.

Ben is feeling nervous because he's up for eviction. He would have liked Amanda to spend more time with him during the night but Amanda wants to share her time with the other housemates as well: especially those who are in the same boat with Ben, as this might be their last party together in the house. Amanda is also having second thoughts about the whole alliance/scheming thing. She told Ben she doesn't want to give her nomination points to Suvi any longer and she's going to feel devastated if Suvi has to leave on Sunday. Ben is trying to get Amanda to promise him they'll have no arguments for the next couple of days. (Because those would look bad in the dailies?)

Stefan is still hopelessly mesmerized by Amanda, especially when drunk... which is a bit awkward as the tiny Amanda is likely never going to respond to his feelings and only wants to be friends with the big hairy guy.

Minna is so drunk Big Brother has ordered her to go to bed two times already. Equally drunken Tanja is trying to help her get off her bra and change into a t-shirt.

Curiously, there has been no music in this party... or I've missed those parts.
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Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
« Reply #170 on: September 30, 2011, 05:47:55 PM »
02:25 Drunken Tanja is helping the totally wasted Minna into bed.

Tanja: "Okay... ahm... Minna--"
Minna: "Yes? Hic!"
Tanja "--where's your underwear?"
Minna: "Wha?"
Tanja "Where's your underwear?"
Minna (emphatically): "Ask Ben!"
Tanja (with laughter in her voice): "Well I don't really believe Ben knows where your underwear is!"
Minna (with high-pitched voice): "Ben knows because I... effin' wher... Hic! ...goddamned bullsh... darn!"

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Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
« Reply #171 on: October 01, 2011, 06:14:24 AM »
During the previous night, Tanja got a drunken fit and had a clash with Amanda. According to Tanja, Amanda has mostly ignored her for the last two weeks. And even though Tanja didn't say so, I think she's pretty sure Amanda is one of those people who are trying to vote her out. (That was actually the case last week. This week's nomination chart has not been published yet.) Tanja thinks Amanda is no longer the person she thought Amanda was when Amanda first entered the house. Amanda was a bit offended by Tanja's words.

Tanja also had another clash with Mikael, who, according to her knowledge, had been saying some rather non-flattering things about her body and looks in the previous party.

Earlier during the night Sebastian and Ben had a conversation in the sauna (and a bit later in the jacuzzi) about their personal chemistry. Ben, who hates Sebastian to his guts and has been scheming to get him up for evicition, lied to him he has never wanted him out, or never played any games in the house. Sebastian sincerely revealed he has thought Ben is the most difficult person in the house for him to deal with. They made a deal they would try to understand each other better but it is quite likely Ben isn't going to do anything like that.

Forcing the plastered and defiantly resisting, laughing, giggling and swearing Minna to remain in bed and begin sleeping took about an hour for four people (Ben, Tanja, Amanda, Sebastian). At first, Suvi (also drunk) laughed her ass off while observing the situation on the neighboring bed but as Minna did not start obeying the others and it had been going on for God knows how long, Suvi got really mad at her and flipped and made quite a scene herself.

In the wee hours, Mikael had a long conversation with Janica (who was soaking in the jacuzzi and quite drunk) about his relationship with Annika and how his and Janica's friendship has eroded as a result, and how BB has probably tried to make it look like a love triangle while it isn't. Janica was a bit too drunk and interrupted the frustrated Mikael all the time by explaining more and more about her thoughts.

Finally, Salar and the drunken, horny, giggling Janica ended up under the same duvet in the bedroom. There was apparently some fingering or other kind of heavy petting going on.




Currently, the drowsy housemates are suffering from heavy hang-overs. The always cheery BB has monitored them breaking the rules and punished them in various ways. Suvi needs to carry a megaphone backpack and a microphone helmet so her voice can be heard all over the house all the time. Amanda had to go into the birdcage because Tanja broke rules by sleeping. (They aren't allowed to take naps now.) Janica has spent some time in the birdcage this morning as well. Suvi also had to read aloud a children's story about recycling to all housemates who were ordered to gather to the sofas to listen to it as they had not been recycling their empty bottles and cans properly.

Tanja is having a bad hangover. She explained to Minna all she really wants now is to be evicted on Sunday because she thinks everyone in the house hates her anyway and wants her out. But if she remains after Sunday, she's going to just keep on provocating all the other housemates as she sees fit because she doesn't feel the need to be nice to other people any longer.










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Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
« Reply #172 on: October 01, 2011, 08:13:48 AM »
Suvi needs to carry a megaphone backpack and a microphone helmet so her voice can be heard all over the house all the time.

That's one of the best BB punishments I've ever seen.  ;D

Thanks very much for all the detailed updates, BrutalGentleman.  :)

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Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
« Reply #173 on: October 01, 2011, 08:41:10 AM »
Suvi needs to carry a megaphone backpack and a microphone helmet so her voice can be heard all over the house all the time.

That's one of the best BB punishments I've ever seen.  ;D

Her voice is also booming from the house PA system in all the rooms where she's not currently present... or in the entire house if she's in the yard. And there needs to be another housemate accompanying her at all times. (Salar's comment when he returned from a quick visit to the bathroom: "There's nothing stranger than being on the shitter and hearing Suvi's voice all the time!")

Suvi got the punishment because BB has found there to be general disregard towards the microphone rules. Suvi suspects herself it's because she has a loud voice to begin with.

Thanks very much for all the detailed updates, BrutalGentleman.  :)

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Re: Big Brother 7 Finland
« Reply #174 on: October 01, 2011, 10:03:37 AM »
Even though some of you are watching the live 24/7 streams (and the dailies and the available video clips) with no knowledge of Finnish, you might pick up housemates calling each other by their names... or mentioning each others' names in a discussion. Here's a quick list of common nicknames the housemates may occasionally use when referring to each other:

Amanda = Ama, Pikku Myy ("Little My", a character in the Moomin stories; a little mischievous girl who is very small compared to the other characters, just like Amanda is tiny when compared to the other housemates, especially Stefan.)
Annika = Anneli, Ansku
Ben = Benkku
Janica = Jade (Janica's stage name as a stripper / pole dancer), Prinsessa ("Princess"), Barbie
Mikael = Miksu, Korso (a district in the city of Vantaa where Mikael is from)
Minna = Minde
Oskar (evicted) = Porno, Jeppe (Oskar's stage name as a porn actor)
Salar = Salarakas, Salami, Omar, Jafar, poika ("the boy")
Stefan = Eki, Isä ("Father" in Finnish), Faija (Helsinki slang for "Daddy"), Papa, Daddy - the housemates mostly call him by any other name than Stefan
Sebastian = Tyne, Sebu, Seba, Pastori ("Priest", "Minister"), Bastian
Suvi = Äiti ("Mother" in Finnish), Mama
Tanja = Ganja
Terhi = Tepa, Terppa

All vowels in these names are short and pronounced a bit differently than an English speaker would assume from the spelling. See here for a pronunciation guide - the table in the middle of the page. Note that the Finnish letter "J" is pronounced the same as the letter "Y" in the word "yellow"... so "Tanja", for example, is closer to "Tahnyah" in English spelling.

Commonly heard affirmative (positive) responses in Finnish (such as "yes", "yeah"): "kyllä", "joo", "juu", "niin", "on", "o", "olen", "jep", "aivan"
Commonly heard non-affirmative (negative) responses or pleas in Finnish (such as "no", "don't"): "ei", "älä", "älkää"
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